[quote]Dave_ wrote:
InTheZone wrote:
Wow, you're a "sticking stud" Dave, lol. Hey it looks like a fantastic little two weeker in my opinion buddy. You know what I would do, I would run your over the counter LH stims in the two off between the two runs, and use your Nolva and/or otc LH stims, at the very end. But that's just my two cents. One week is really short and unnecessary as your shutdown, if any is going to be so small, so why subject yourself to the nolva emotions if you don't have to? Of course you would probably be running a lower dose of it, but you get my point probably. You have a boatload so any of these ideas will work just fine I'm sure. The main thing is your cycle duration which is perfect, so these other things are kind of trivial, and just up to you I would say.
Again, looks killer. I still have one vial of the magic elixer from our 3 week cycle you know, I've been contemplating something on a much lower dose than before with some adex maybe. I wonder how much less pain would be there compared to our old 2ml injecs with say .5 or 1ml each shot? Thinking out loud here.
Cheers Dave,
ToneBone
Thanks ToneBone. I actually kind of like the injections… sick, huh? Lol.
Here�??s my thinking on the �??mid cycle break�?? nolva. Both nolva and Alpha Male etc work to increase serum LH (although nolva moreso). If my leydigs have enhanced LH sensitivity (as per BR�??s theory), then supplementing to increase serum LH (which may have decreased during 2 weeks on) should have a whopping effect on T production.
Also, as we know, nolva acts favourably on blood lipid profiles and the immune system1. I�??ll be on the AD throughout, so maybe this would be good for me.
However, I�??m aware of the possibility of a reduction in IGF, plus I get some bad-ass acne from nolva (although no emotional sides, yet)., so I like your suggestion of using OTC supps instead during the break.
You still have a vial of the elixir you say?? Well I for one am certainly jealous, that was a beauty. All I can say about injection pain was that I found 1ml shots of npp a lot less painful than 2ml shots of tpp (same ester, so I guess pain should be similar for a given amount).
Oh, and a question for the floor �?? it�??s possible I could get some npp or tren ace. I think compounds this suppressive might ruin the magic of this approach, what say ye?
Thanks TB, your enthusiasm is contagious as always!
Dave
1.Bruning PF, Bronfer JMG, Hart AAM, Jong-Bakker M, tamoxifen serum lipoproteins and cardiovascular risk, Br. J. Cancer 1988 Oct, 58 (4) 497-9
[/quote]
Good points and nice information Dave. Yeah, I wasn't dumb enough to toss the bugger out just because of what happened. I just think I was:
-
Very sensitive to the test/e ratio getting tweaked by such a large amount for someone who never injected,ie:1200 and some odd mg/week of the elixr, and I had the additional complications of the cellulitis or whatever it was reaction, which could have been due to that tiny piece of foreign material, or not, we’ll never really know for sure. But the combination of all the problems and the pain of the 2ml injecs just KO’d me big time.
Now that all the dust has settled, I'm thinking that maybe a total of around 400mg/week, roughly a third of that original amount, should actually go the whole distance of two weeks easily, AND should be much less side prone, AND HOPEFULLY, shouldn't hurt near as much.
Thing is though, even when I tried lower dose shots, 1ml, .5, it still hurt, but it’s 2008, so I think I’ll give it a go again maybe. .5ml every shot would be what, like 300mg/week. maybe figure Mon-.5/Wed-.5/Fri-1ml, and then take that extra day off on Sunday to keep the family out of the loop, and with the extra on Friday, we’d be at a solid 400mg for the week approx.
I believe we were a trifle over 1200mg for the week, but no longer remember the exact amount. What do you think of that? And since I AM obviously sensitive, would/should I toss in some adex just to be safe? Maybe .25 eod or ed to be safe.
ToneBone