Ilove chins and DL. I weighted 190 lbs, and can do chins 3 reps with 50kg (110lbs) extraweight (totally weight is about 300 lbs). DL max. now is 460-470 pounds. I’m baad bencer, now my max is only 305-310 lbs.
No weighted dips or chins/pulls mentioned but here is a website with a chart for comparative strength.
[quote]scrooge wrote:
Hey guys,
Many have mentioned things like a 2x bodyweight deadlift and a bodyweight bench as being minimum standards to be considered strong (relative to the general population, not competitive lifters). Yeah I know, most of you are probably a lot stronger than that…some of us aren’t quite there yet.
What about chins and dips? What is a respectable proportion of bodyweight to have added to these exercises.
Just for the record, I am currently at 20kg on chins for a 2RM, at a bodweight of 80kg. Haven’t done dips in a while, so I’m not sure what I can do here, but it is probably slightly higher.
Opinions?[/quote]
If you can do pull ups and dips with or without weights you rock. most of the regular joe’s out there cant even do one pull up and will probly drop and break there jaw doing a dip. I always train for endurance, the power is always there as long as I keep adding weight to what ever type of work out that I do. right now I do 20 to 18 pull ups 3 sets and 30 dips for 4 sets. I feel good about what I have been abel to acheive. as of now I’m 41 years.
I love doing Deadlifts. I was born to deadlifts, 360lbs with nothing. Bodyweight of 138 and i don’t think am strong, got to beat a powerlifting record to be strong.
Good Idea tonight am going to do my 1RM max on chins and dips
[quote]Mule359 wrote:
No weighted dips or chins/pulls mentioned but here is a website with a chart for comparative strength.
home.comcast.net/~joandbryce/hwgdami.htm[/quote]
Cool site, I wonder how much that would change given different bodytypes.
I can do about 3 reps of pullups with 70 lbs strapped on.
And I used to be able to do sets of 10 of dips with 110 lbs strapped on.
…then i screwed up my shoulder and now i’m back at doing bodyweight dips (albeit 10 sets of 10).
Oh yea, i weight about 165 lbs.
other maxes:
bench is pretty bad at 250lbs
Dead lifts aren’t any prettier at 315 lbs
and squats are just damn ugly at 225lbs x3.
I consider myself to be reasonably strong in these lifts (for my bodyweight).
1RM chin-up: 132lbs (60kg) plus bodyweight (87kg).
3RM Narrow grip dips: 143lbs (65kg) plus bodyweight.
Yet, my 1RM Bench press seems to have plateaued at 297lbs (135kg). Now, personally I feel that if I have a 3RM dip of 143lbs plus bodyweight, my BP should be higher than it is at present.
Can anyone suggest why I can’t up my numbers in the BP? Thanks (sorry about the hijack).
[quote]CodyJay wrote:
I love doing Deadlifts. I was born to deadlifts, 360lbs with nothing. Bodyweight of 138 and i don’t think am strong, got to beat a powerlifting record to be strong.
Good Idea tonight am going to do my 1RM max on chins and dips[/quote]
Fucking love that. “I’m not strong… I got to beat a pl record to be strong.”
Goddamn right 
I’m about <40 lbs heavier than you and you’re almost pulling in my range.
ever find out ur Pullup/Dip maxes?
I can do 3 pullups with 90lbs attached at a bw of 172ish
Never maxed out with dips, more than 100lbs aggravates the hell out of my elbows. (Dislocated them several times in gymnastics when i was younger…fucking trampolines)
I’m not a competive strongman but I lift 4x week and I weighted 165. My best lift are:
DL 375 x1
Chin up 45 x5
Dips 80 x5
[quote]harhar wrote:
with over 2x bodyweight deadlift and over 1x bodyweight bench, I am one of the weakest guys at my Univ gym.
I guess I should be happy but I cant say I like looking like a puss everytime I go lift.[/quote]
what university do you train at? and were you refering to the atheletes or the regular gym population. Also i’d like to add that whoever does deadlift must know a little bit about lifting cause you hardly see people doing them at my gym. laters pk
being able to have a 8X bw total with no gear is superstrong. laters pk
Keep in mind top 25% of population is only top 50% of men. I’d be more interested in the benchmark for top 25% of men.
I think there was another thread that talked about dip vs. chin weights. The chin is arguably a much harder exercise and I find that most advanced trainees can dip with roughly twice the amount of weight they can chin with. So if you’re aiming to dip with 150% of bodyweight, then you probably should aim to chin with 125%.
Interesting stuff.
I wonder how strong you would need to be to do 50 pullups? Of course endurance matters, but I am sure it would help to be able to do BW X 1.75. I am personally aiming for a 1RM on pullups at BW X 1.5 for the short term.
Currently BW(170) + 40 pounds for 3 reps.
hi,
just joined this site…looks good.
my thoughts: chins and dips are best performed as strength-building exercises and as such should be executed in the 6 to 8 rep range.
pull-ups: i am 220 lbs and hang 55 lbs off belt and hit this range (6-8) for few sets. for fun, i tried to max yesterday, and grip failed at two red ivanko plates (50 kg). with straps probably could get a rep.
dips: love 'em! i always train with 25kg hanging for 10-12 reps up to 4 sets. again, for fun, tried to max, and made 70 kg (154 lbs) for the world’s slowest dip rep.
several years ago, i saw a female bodybuilder crank out 55 pull-ups at about 145 lbs. bodyweight which was most spectacular.
Here is a link to a site were they are doing some very impressive chin ups and dips as well as some lifts not commonly practiced.
Matsumi,
Great link.
Thanks!
[quote]matsumi wrote:
Here is a link to a site were they are doing some very impressive chin ups and dips as well as some lifts not commonly practiced.
http://weightlifting.moonfruit.com/
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I’ve been seen doing dips (not those things where the elbows slightly bend a little, but real dips, all the way down) for reps of 8 with 90 pounds extra on me (total about 260 lbs), funny part is that if I do dips, it’s at the end of a workout where I figure I’ll throw in some extra arm training (I generally don’t do any direct arm work) so I’m already pretty exhausted when I do this… yet my bench press sucks ass (i’ve never been able to bench much), it’s weird.
I have a similar problem with squats/deadlifts.
now though, who knows… with all the landscaping work I’ve been doing for my parents I haven’t had the time or energy to really lift in about 3 weeks (which sucks) I can’t wait for this damn job to be over.
I read somewhere that your 1RM pull up should equal your 1RM bench if your chest and back are equal strength. I think that would apply more to bent over rows and bench. I consider a person to be strong if he can rep pulls with a 45 lb plate. A 2x bodyweight deadlift and a bodyweight bench I consider fit, but not too strong. I’m pretty strong on bodyweight exercises such as dips and pull ups. I’m 150 lbs, and my 1RM for pull ups is 90lbs added on. For dips, so far I tried 135 and it wasn’t too heavy. I’m an ex-gymnast so my lats and triceps are my strong points.