[quote]scottiscool wrote:
2006 People get to discuss things like this on the internet
1965 Peopple say what the fuck is the internet?[/quote]
Amazing, isn’t it? People take the information highway for granted and don’t realize how lucky we are to be able to freely exchange ideas and information, not to mention music, film, academics, etc…Its crazy to think about.
V R:
Amazing indeed!
Think about it…you can type in a topic…and then get thousands if not MILLIONS of “hits” on that topic, many with a different view of that topic?
1965: Child predators (who are difficult to find and even deal with in 2007) operated almost with complete “freedom”, with prosecutions (if they occurred at all) that were slaps on the hand.
Mufasa
The getting laid part?
Yea…you could probably threaten a woman with her job if she didn’t blow you or screw you…and she couldn’t do a damn thing about it…
Mufasa
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
If you REALLY think about it…nostalgia…or feeling that there was a “good 'ole days” requires a helluva’ lot of what I call “selective amnesia”.
The truth is that some things may have seemed to go overboard and for the worse…while there are things that are a LOT better…
1965: NO home computers; no access to unlimited amounts of the sum total of Human Knowledge; NO internet; NO forums…
No cell phones; 3 networks; and a Country STILL struggling with the ideals of its Constitution…
“Do we REALLY find these truths to be self evident…?”
Cool to contemplate…but no way in hell we are better off by “going back…”
Mufasa[/quote]
Agreed. Except we are STILL certainly struggling with the ideals of the Constiution today. And we probably always will be.
[quote]V R wrote:
scottiscool wrote:
2006 People get to discuss things like this on the internet
1965 Peopple say what the fuck is the internet?
Amazing, isn’t it? People take the information highway for granted and don’t realize how lucky we are to be able to freely exchange ideas and information, not to mention music, film, academics, etc…Its crazy to think about. [/quote]
and of course … free porn !
[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
Scenario: Jeffrey won’t be still in class; disrupts other students.
1965 Jeffrey sent to office and given a good paddling by the school principal. Sits still in class from then on.
2006 Jeffrey given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. School gets extra money from state because Jeffrey has a disability.
I am very proud to say that my father went to a catholic high school in the 70’s, and they tried to hit him with a paddle, at which point he broke the teachers nose.
I don’t care what others think, but when its acceptable to administer physical pain on someone to force their compliance (BARRING PARENTS!!!), something is definently wrong with the system. And I think that anyone that chose to hit back would be completely and totally justified. I am mighty proud of my father.
But, as long as you all think its ok to hit people just because there not acting the way you want them too, I need to get me a good, solid baseball bat.[/quote]
So if you were teacher and some kid is sitting in the back bitching, yelling, calling you a motherfucker, wouldn’t u like to smack some sense into him?
This happened at my school back in South Africa, it was sweet, shut the dumb fuck up finally, hard to learn when people are being disruptive like that.
I got a shotgun on my 12th. birthday and a deer rifle for christmas that year. Both were hand me downs.
When I was old enough to drive I took my shotgun to school so I could get in a little bird hunting on the way home before it got too dark. That was in the late 70’s. My school also had a rifle club.
I think if my son said the word “rifle” in school today he would get detention.
Yep times have changed.
[quote]hedo wrote:
I got a shotgun on my 12th. birthday and a deer rifle for christmas that year. Both were hand me downs.
When I was old enough to drive I took my shotgun to school so I could get in a little bird hunting on the way home before it got too dark. That was in the late 70’s. My school also had a rifle club.
I think if my son said the word “rifle” in school today he would get detention.
Yep times have changed.[/quote]
That all changed thanks to nutso teens actually bringing the guns into school and shooting up the place. How much did that happen in the 60’s or 70’s? It seems that kids had a better sense of responsibility with fireams then, because how many city/suburban kids now are taught by their parents basic handling and storage of guns?
[quote]Ren wrote:
BarneyFife wrote:
Scenario: Jeffrey won’t be still in class; disrupts other students.
1965 Jeffrey sent to office and given a good paddling by the school principal. Sits still in class from then on.
2006 Jeffrey given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. School gets extra money from state because Jeffrey has a disability.
I am very proud to say that my father went to a catholic high school in the 70’s, and they tried to hit him with a paddle, at which point he broke the teachers nose.
I don’t care what others think, but when its acceptable to administer physical pain on someone to force their compliance (BARRING PARENTS!!!), something is definently wrong with the system. And I think that anyone that chose to hit back would be completely and totally justified. I am mighty proud of my father.
But, as long as you all think its ok to hit people just because there not acting the way you want them too, I need to get me a good, solid baseball bat.
So if you were teacher and some kid is sitting in the back bitching, yelling, calling you a motherfucker, wouldn’t u like to smack some sense into him?
This happened at my school back in South Africa, it was sweet, shut the dumb fuck up finally, hard to learn when people are being disruptive like that.[/quote]
Cool. I can hit people that piss me off, even if they don’t touch me. How come nobody every told me of this nifty rule?
[quote]jp_dubya wrote:
These are the good old days. The way around that? Make tomorrow better. Repeat[/quote]
Haha, your post made my day.
Good points being brought up. Especially about who wants to wake up in 1965, well I know my dad probably would, but that is a whole other story.
[quote]etaco wrote:
Complaints about “kids these days” and “society is going to shit” show up in Thucydides and Tacitus from what I recall. Apparently it’s a timeless sentiment.[/quote]
That is a true fact ET…
[quote]Question for the older folk:
If someone else’s kid gave me lip back in the 50’s, would I, as a stranger, be considered in the right if I gave the little fucker a beating? [/quote]
I can speak to this…Back then, you would have grabbed the smartass “up in his collar” and dragged him home, where you would have released him to his Dad after telling him what went down…Trust me, loose lip would have been dealt with…(foot to ass time, Baby)…
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Best.Post.
How many people would honestly want to wake up and find it to be 1965?[/quote]
Easy one: KKK lovers and their ilk (He says sarcastically)…
I’ll tell you why times are different than in 1965. There’s only one reason, and once you realize that reason, you’ll be able to close this thread down once and for all. The reason why there’s so much frivolity in the present:
THERE’S MORE PUSSIES.
Masculinity is nearly dead, but I’ll die keeping it alive.
[quote]Fulmen wrote:
I’ll tell you why times are different than in 1965. There’s only one reason, and once you realize that reason, you’ll be able to close this thread down once and for all. The reason why there’s so much frivolity in the present:
THERE’S MORE PUSSIES.
Masculinity is nearly dead, but I’ll die keeping it alive.[/quote]
Yeah, also, black people aren’t discriminated against. And uh, women can actually work. The disabled can’t be discriminated against. The KKK isn’t as prevalent. We aren’t in Vietnam.
Here’s the difference between 1965 and 2006:
You’re here, and you’re a fucking cretin.
Oh, and the internet.
I didn’t even touch the subject of rascism, war, of feminine independence. The only thing I was concerning was about raising a kid-since that was what the original post consisted of-and I have a personal opinion that, when compared to the past, parents are pussies. They would rather be friends than God fobid-parents!
So go ahead and piss and moan about the other subjects, even though they have nothing to do with the original post other than that shit happened in the timeframe.
Dumbass.
[quote]etaco wrote:
Majin wrote:
It’s overhyped. Many of these ‘tough talking nostlgia folks’ lately. “Hey, you remember how back in the day everything was great and now it’s all gone to shit…blah.” It’s not that bad and there was just as much bullshit ‘then’ as it is now. It’s the form of bullshit that changes. Bullshit gets with the times, unlike some people.
Complaints about “kids these days” and “society is going to shit” show up in Thucydides and Tacitus from what I recall. Apparently it’s a timeless sentiment.
Question for the older folk:
If someone else’s kid gave me lip back in the 50’s, would I, as a stranger, be considered in the right if I gave the little fucker a beating? [/quote]
I wasn’t around in the 50s, but from my father’s stories, if that happened, you’d have to deal with the father of the kid after beating his kid for mouthing off. The proper way to handle it would have been to tell his dad, who would then beat him. On the other hand, boxing the ears, a light smack on the face or shaking the kid scared was probably ok in most cases, but not a beating.
DB
[quote]Fulmen wrote:
I didn’t even touch the subject of rascism, war, of feminine independence. The only thing I was concerning was about raising a kid-since that was what the original post consisted of-and I have a personal opinion that, when compared to the past, parents are pussies. They would rather be friends than God fobid-parents![/quote]
No, you didn’t touch on those subjects. You spoke of THE ONLY REASON that times are more different. You ignored the other subjects because you’re a walking form of noise pollution. You like to hear your own voice, and you like to have such a strong manly T-Man opinion! Woo! People are pussies! IF EVERYONE WAS TOUGHER THE WORLD WOULD BE SO AWESOME HELL YEAH! WHEN KIDS GOT ABUSED REGULARLY BY THEIR PARENTS AND MOLESTED AND IT WAS COVERED UP!
[quote]So go ahead and piss and moan about the other subjects, even though they have nothing to do with the original post other than that shit happened in the timeframe.
Dumbass.[/quote]
Yeah, thank you, mister:
[quote]"I’m all about perfection, and I’ll die trying to achieve that great symmetry. Don’t stand in my way of my goals. You’ll get ran over. If I could give one piece of advice, it would be to always say, “I can”.
With that said, I’ve been lifting for nearly two years; sadly, I spent 15 of those 21 months smoking, drinking, and eating horribly. It took until the 18th month to get everything correct (volume, sets, reps, exercises) for growth, and boom-half an inch on my arms in 2.5 weeks. I want to be big, and be as strong as I look. 'Nuff said."[/quote]
Go ahead and have nostalgia about a time period you never lived through at your marvelous 163 pounds. I’m sure you do look incredibly strong, and your two and a half days of total training history will really make you someone to be admired. Hopefully you can continue to talk about what’s wrong with society when you deadlift that car and get a supporting role in the next over-stylized Frank Miller movie adaptation!
If you have a kid, I hope to Christ it doesn’t end up as self-aggrandizing and presumptuous as the mother it came from. (Unless you’re a man, but 5’6" 163 pounds and talking about pussies leads me to believe you’re just a butch dyke. I can get you a great deal on a Subaru Forester, if you’re in the market.)
[quote]Dweezil wrote:
I can get you a great deal on a Subaru Forester, if you’re in the market.[/quote]
Fullman, dude. That’s a totally awesome offer!
Gnarly.
It’s great to see that you didn’t agree with my opinion. However, it’s not so great and quite bewildering that I’m getting personally flamed for a difference in opinion.
I ignored the other subjects because I felt they had nothing to do with the original post. I even told you I was stating a personal opinion; I did not call you wrong or anything related to that. I consider a “pussy” the antithesis to Western masculinity (and a disciplinarian would be one of the areas in western masculinity).
You even went so far as to dishonorably insult my phsyique, something I’m working hard on to reach my goals and has nothing to do with the original post.
That was very insolent of you.
[quote]Fulmen wrote:
It’s great to see that you didn’t agree with my opinion. However, it’s not so great and quite bewildering that I’m getting personally flamed for a difference in opinion.[/quote]
It’s all the testosterone. I’m feeling really masculine. Didn’t you say you’d die keeping it alive? Ah… Well… You’ll die, anyway.
You ignored other subjects because it’s nice to be nostalgic and look back when your current life is underwhelming and you want to be something you’re not. The original post was about some e-mail a guy got and posted about it on a forum. It was titled differences between a time period, not differences between child-rearing.
It was much worse for children 40 years ago than it is today. This is a forum, the topic of conversation is not heavily moderated and we do not have to ‘stay on point’ (nevermind that child-rearing wasn’t the point).
A disciplinarian is one of the ‘areas’ in Western masculinity? Because… disciplinarians never existed before the colonizing of the West?
Masculinity is dying because men let it die and it’s being continually marginalized by the efficacy of modern Western society and the comfort in which we live.
Dishonorably? Are you fucking kidding me? Did I spit on the grave of your forefathers? Are you a ninja? Are you going to seek revenge against me in the name of some kind of blood oath?
I am sorry, but I don’t usually connect honor together and internet weightlifting forum. And I don’t connect honor with tunnel vision, which you seem to have about a past you never saw.
Insolence is one of many services I offer.