Where Did The Good Guys Go?

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Im a little sad today. A man was shot about a week ago at my apartments. (Accualy he was only around 15 or 16 so kid). So today im walking to the store and i see a memorial site of the kids picture and little gifts and stuff. I look around and see four beer bottles down there and on his picture it has signatures.

I look on the right and it says fuck norte?os. Im thinking to my self, jesus christ give it a rest, the kid is dead. Show some respect or move the fuck on.

Im so tired of these little hoods. They arent beeing run out of town anymore. they’re being sent to the same place, and then they multiply. The kids arent afraid to go to juvy anymore, they’ll just meet their friends in there and play Xbox all day.

It makes you wonder; How did we get to a place in time like this? When did it become cool to shoot someone and brag about it? Were you cant even show respect for the dead? Please enlighten me.

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The police can arrest.
The courts can prosecute.
The corrections department can incarcerate.

It is up to the parents to take an active step in their childrens lives. It is hard to control the gangs from a law enforcement standpoint when you can’t get any help from the community.

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American youth is in a sad state of affairs. It’s cool to be a rebel and break the law, and have no respect for anything.

We will be paying for these assholes either in Jail or in food stamps soon.

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[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
The police can arrest.
The courts can prosecute.
The corrections department can incarcerate.
[/quote]

Sure they can, but this does not stop the problem. No one gets “rehabilitated” in prison. A lot of kids come out even worse than they went in.

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[quote]sic wrote:
BarneyFife wrote:
The police can arrest.
The courts can prosecute.
The corrections department can incarcerate.

Sure they can, but this does not stop the problem. No one gets “rehabilitated” in prison. A lot of kids come out even worse than they went in.[/quote]

If you read the second part of my post, you would see that I hinted at it. Its not that law enforcement isn’t doing its job, its that communities and escpecially parents are not doing their job.

A lot people think that drug related offenses get more time in jail then violent offenses, and its true in some instances, but a lot of drug related offenses are commited by gang members. There really are not enough options. The corrections budget is the biggest eater of funding in MANY states. If we kept drug offenders in the community and forced them to go to counseling, then we could save a lot of denaro in the prison budget, and save cells for violent offenders. We could also legalize narcotics, or at least marijauna. Or maybe people will get addicted, overdose, and die, thus solving the problem. Unfortunately, the human body can handle drugs fairly well.

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The new attitude of

“I dont give a *uck”

Is where all the “good” guys have gone. In the old days even in bad neighborhoods, you had men who stood up to the old nightly principles of moral standards and whats right.

Nowadays its a free for all, pretty much imagine a country with a bunch of warlords and no body cares about right or wrong, but what they can get away with.

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You guys are waxing poetic about a time that never existed.

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[quote]tin_soldier wrote:
Im a little sad today. A man was shot about a week ago at my apartments. (Accualy he was only around 15 or 16 so kid). So today im walking to the store and i see a memorial site of the kids picture and little gifts and stuff. I look around and see four beer bottles down there and on his picture it has signatures.

I look on the right and it says fuck norte?os. Im thinking to my self, jesus christ give it a rest, the kid is dead. Show some respect or move the fuck on.

Im so tired of these little hoods. They arent beeing run out of town anymore. they’re being sent to the same place, and then they multiply. The kids arent afraid to go to juvy anymore, they’ll just meet their friends in there and play Xbox all day.

It makes you wonder; How did we get to a place in time like this? When did it become cool to shoot someone and brag about it? Were you cant even show respect for the dead? Please enlighten me.[/quote]

What part of CA do you live in? Was it around Loma linda area?

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
You guys are waxing poetic about a time that never existed.

[/quote]

hmmm… that’s pretty good Irish.

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[quote]Go heavy fool wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
You guys are waxing poetic about a time that never existed.

hmmm… that’s pretty good Irish.[/quote]

I agree. Every generation thinks the previous generation is the last great one, their generation is where it’s all going to end, and the next is doomed.

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I still think it all went downhill with the Women’s Lib movement. Not that it was a bad thing in and of itself, mind you.

But before women were in the workplace, a family had one person working 40 hours. Now there’s two people working together some 80 hours, and nobody’s better off than before!

But the family lost 40 hours per a week of keeping up the house, making nutritious food and most importantly, a parent in the life of their children.

This has gone on now for two generations, and is getting worse as they raise (or don’t raise) their own children.

Graph violent crime against hours worked per a family. Graph teen pregnancy or childhood mental disorder. Or even just look at the obesity statistics, soaring in both adults and children, ever since women first started going to work in large numbers.

Among the overworked, it’s convenience everything. Daycare. Fast food. Flings with workmates. Happy pills. And all other social ills: materialized, magnified, shit, even deified.

You’d almost think women’s lib was the plan of the psycho-rich capitalist class from the get-go, seeing as how they got 40 hours more productivity out of each family and the family got jack shit!

Buy a clue, humanity. These sick bloodsuckers keep getting richer, because you keep giving them more and more of what is yours!!

Remember back in the early 20th century, when automation and the human spirit (unions, picketers, self-respecting warrior peoples!) made possible the 40 hour work week? With the increase in automation today, where’s our new worker’s movement? Not only MIA, but self-hating and self-sacrificing to their false Gods of Wealth, corporations to serve the boardroom humans.

But you are just as human as they, and all deserving!!

So what’s the solution? How about each of the parents work only 20 hours a week. Reclaim that 40 hours. Now you’ve got each parent with a stake in both the breadwinning and homekeeping. The children have the presence of both parents in their life. The parents experience the joy of actually raising children! (Those poor souls who have children but long for meaning, bwa ha!) And neither parent becomes obsessed with work over the family life.

You know, I work 20 hours myself, and get paid well enough that I’m now buying my first home (at age 26).

Shit, let’s just start a new movement now. Who’s with me?

20 HOUR WORK WEEK, OR BUST!!

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What’s happening is that people are toughening up, society is getting stronger, tougher, harder, etc…

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[quote]djrobins wrote:
The new attitude of

“I dont give a *uck”

Is where all the “good” guys have gone. In the old days even in bad neighborhoods, you had men who stood up to the old nightly principles of moral standards and whats right.

Nowadays its a free for all, pretty much imagine a country with a bunch of warlords and no body cares about right or wrong, but what they can get away with.[/quote]

This is so true. But as men we can only blame ourselves for this. It?s a lack of true old fashion men with values which has lead to this problem. What I mean is a lack of a men in the homes in which these children were and are raised. Today?s youth are a generation raised by woman. Don?t get mad, I?m not knocking woman. They have stepped up to the plate and done most of the child rearing in the homes because of the fact there is a lack of good men around. So if nothing else I applaud them for that. But there are things that children need to learn from a man. When I say MAN I mean a MAN!!! Not just a 30 year old male, there’s a difference. Things like telling the truth even when you know its going to hurt. What it means to give your word when you say you?re going to do something. How to have responsibility and what that means. How to have morals! How to stand up for yourself, friends and family instead of just going with the flow. How to do a days work. How to be a provider. I could go on and on… So I guess my point is all these things could be taught by a mother, policeman, school teachers; God knows they try. But they shouldn?t have too they should learn all these traits from WATCHING THERE FATHER!!!

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[quote]BoxBabaX wrote:

What part of CA do you live in? Was it around Loma linda area?[/quote]

No, thats a little south from me. Im up by the bay area.

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[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
What’s happening is that people are toughening up, society is getting stronger, tougher, harder, etc…[/quote]

Its a diffrent toughness though. It used to be that throwing fists was tough. Now its sort of a cold uncaring attitude for each other. Some of the kids now days are turning to shit before they even have a chance to choose their life.

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[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
What’s happening is that people are toughening up, society is getting stronger, tougher, harder, etc…[/quote]

No, not necessarily true.

As a part of the ‘youth’ I can attest that they’re getting more reckless, stupid, and gaining a tough guy mentality and resorting to violence way too often. Its ridiculous, really.

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What’s the point of being a dead good guy?

What good can you do then?

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[quote]vroom wrote:
What’s the point of being a dead good guy?
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Nothing, and I dont think its a bad thing to get into a fight every now and again to defend yourself. I do think its absurd that society (youth, in general) has reached a point that there are school shootings, and stories of gang fights between middle school students.

One of my brothers friends got stabbed over a pair of shoes. A fucking pair of shoes. Hes 14.

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[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
One of my brothers friends got stabbed over a pair of shoes. A fucking pair of shoes. Hes 14. [/quote]

Is it just a lack fo respect for life or a complete lack of sense of proportion?

I mean, like you said, wtf, a pair of shoes?

I’m getting a bit older, I can’t pretend to know anymore…

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It’s thug life I mean shit, you grow up in the ghetto fuck dawg and someone step to you yo’ need to kill someone you dun’ know how it be. Fuck dawg. You see someone wearin’ red kill him!

I think this culture is going to be the end of our society one day. But we just keep feeding it, because it just makes so much damn money. Anyone in the LA area?? Have you seen this place? Gangs are building up their arsenals for a war against the cops.