So your telling me that girls with atypical sexualities are attracted to you, when you display atypical male characteristics?
hmm
Not in all cases.
They might be with each other for variety of reasons having little to do with physical attractiveness. The average-looking or homely women you speak of might be nice, provide sex and affection, and make great mothers. They also might fit each other intellectually and for socioeconomic and social circles.
Various reports deal with male age groups up to 30 or 35.
āThe portion of Americans 18 to 29 reporting no sex in the past year more than doubled between 2008 and 2018, to 23 percent.ā
āHave they tried just being themselves?ā
*in boomer tongue*
And I doubt they have. People are weird now. Always chasing an engineered image or trying to fit made up definitions.
Weāve always had weird groups, but theyāve always been on the fringe until now. Weird is in. Dissociative image projection is going to make connecting hard. Or transactional.
IDK man, Iām pretty sure the Anime/D&D/Fortnite/Pokemon Speedrunner crowd is literally being themselves.
Doesnāt seem to be working for them, if you havenāt seen the above information posted by @BrickHead
So I asked before but Iād like to see if anyone else has input:
Only speaking for myself here.
I realized that love is a choice, not a feeling. I asked my wife to marry me 12 hours after our first kiss.
Weāve changed jobs, moved, traveled, had health issues, kids, family nonsense, any facet of life that exists.
But as a husband, in all those situations, I want her to really know that I choose to build, conquer, explore, and love her. I provide enthusiasm and the willingness to risk. To buy tampons and change diapers and be a bodyguard, cheerleader, and confidant.
Be romantic and ambitious, be a safe place. Be the equivalent of a swiss army knife. Never stop growing and beckoning her to go someplace new.
Like I said, love is a choice, not a feeling. And marrage shouldnāt be reduced to a contract.
Well, I like your post a lot but you lose me at the end.
It quite literally is a contract. Before government involvement, it was still a contract, just a contract before God. Now itās rather punitive. But I donāt think any of that is up for debate; as you said - it shouldnāt be a contract.
That is quite a list there. Iād like to flip the question.
What are a womanās responsibilities/expectations in marriage?
You are welcome to answer specifically to your own marriage as you have already done.
Weāre on the same page here. If divorce wasnāt a legal issue marrage wouldnāt be either. My current thinking is that the religious and legal aspects should be separated.
Son of a bitch. Good question, but I have to work. Iāll respond later.
Itās hard to get laid when you donāt leave your houseā¦
I think the responsibilities are laid out pretty well in the traditional wedding vows:
āto have and to hold from this day forward, for better or for worse, for richer or for poorer, in sickness and in health, I promise to love and cherish you.ā
In other words, to love and support your spouse through the easy and difficult times.
I would personally add:
To communicate wants, needs, goals, and issues that may require compromise.
Loyalty. Friendship. Intimacy.
The only traditional gender specific responsibility I still believe in (off the top of my head anyway) is that the man is the protector, period.
I think expectations are going to be individual. For example, while I think intimacy is a responsibility of both parties across all marriages, the expectations (what constitutes intimacy, how often sexual interactions occur, etcā¦) will depend on the couple.
I mean, because they donāt leave their chair let alone their house⦠You have to put some effort into finding/keeping a relationship. Pussy doesnāt fall from the sky, lol.
Do you believe that the man should also provide?
Would you be supportive of a stay at home dad while mom works, the same as you would a stay at home mom while dad works?
both man and woman should provide in some capacity- household labour counts as providing
why not?
not all women are nurturing and sometimes it is better for the kids for dad to stay at home whether financialy or emotionally
I would personally not want a husband who is happy to stay at home. It signals lack of ambition. However, I would also not want a husband who encourages me to stay at home. It signals that he does not value my intellectual abilities. If I were lesbian, I wouldnāt want a stay at home wife either for the same reason I wouldnāt want a stay at home husband. Nothing to do with sex/gender
I think men and women should provide something in a relationship.
This is interesting phrasing. āā¦should also provideā. I assume you mean in the traditional sense of providing income. Thatās a fine arrangement. It worked for a long time. It still works. I would say by default it is the manās responsibility.
However, we live in a world where women can also provide an income. In many cases, even more so than their spouse.
So, in the traditional sense, no I donāt think men must provide an income if thatās not the arrangement the couple agrees to, but they should provide something.
Absolutely, if thatās the arrangement the couple worked out.
I think men that would rather stay home arenāt lacking ambition. I think these types of men (Iād include myself in this group) just donāt derive meaning or value from their employment.
My wife and I have talked about this many times. I have never once felt a sense of happiness, excitement, or satisfaction at finishing a task, completing a project, giving a presentation, etc⦠I get zero satisfaction out of my work and I will retire the moment itās financially feasible.
I do it to pay bills, period.
Whereas her work fuels her self worth in many ways. Helping a client gives her a sense of satisfaction Iām honestly jealous of. She feels a sense of accomplishment after finishing her work.
I donāt think itās a lack of ambition I just think itās meaningless for many of us. I donāt care what my title is, where I fall in the company hierarchy, etc⦠I literally only care about the $$ that are deposited into my bank account.
Although, maybe Iām a bad example because itās not like I havenāt worked hard to reach the level Iām at through years of effort and earning multiple degrees and letters after my name.
I just donāt care about any of that. At all.
This is valid. Youāve put in the effort and found that it doesnāt fulfill you
Iām a fair bit younger than you. Most men my age havenāt had much work/life experience or really much real adversity. Wanting to stay at home broadly does translate into not wanting to work
When we got married we went with the classic vows- to have and to hold, etc.
Those are the expectations.
Credit where credit is due- my wife has done a stellar job upholding her vows.
Ive done like, really good. Not perfect, but pretty close.
Weāve done this. Wife stayed home and I was the primary bread winner, then she went back when our son was old enough for daycare.
After a couple of promotions & whatnot, she far out-earned me and I stayed home. Also related but unknown at the time was that I was in the later stages of heart failure at that point.
Little wonder I didnāt have the get up & go I needed.
That having been treated sufficiently, Iāve restarted and we split the difference. I have a tremendous amount of flexability.
Does your wife work or stay at home?
Do you have an expectation for her to do either?