[quote]fattymcfatso wrote:
So, I vowed to myself I would not post on the Powerlifting Forum because I like to argue and I have alot of opposing ideals about the sport in regards to it’s present state. But I do have a legitimate question. What is the squat standard as far as depth in the IPF, IPA? It seems to me that the standard is no longer crease in the hip below the knee cap.
If that is the case, and there is a new definition of the squat then I guess he broke the record. If the standard is what I always have thought it was, then I don’t even see the point of debating. Clearly the crease in his hips was higher than his knees. I mean I am not trying to stir the pot but it is right there on video where everyone can see.
Of all the strength sport forums on this site, the powerlifting section is usually the most heated and has the most arguing. If you go on the strongman side or the Olympic lifting side it is usually just critique, encouragement, and legitimate discussion. I think this is because Powerlifting has so many different standards, federations, gear, etc. that there will always be debate over what is legit and what is BS. I used to love powerlifting in the 90’s (when I competed) Anyone remember the race to an 800 lb bench between Jamie Harris and Anthony Clark?
That was crazy to me back then. Then they came out with those backless shirts and the record shot up by 300 lbs. I kind of lost interest after that. Same with the “Leviatan”, Monolift,12 foot knee wraps, briefs, springs surgically implanted behind the knees, etc. It just seems like records don’t mean as much as they used to.
No disrespect fellas, I just don’t get it anymore.[/quote]
you summed up my thoughts exactly.
lets say that a new type of full body suit was developed for the olympic lifts, and at the next world championships, records were being broken by 20-30%. everybody would laugh, and it would not be considered legitimate…and the sport, if allowed to continue this way, would be lose credibility and interest.
this is what happened to PL, but the thing is, it happened slowly over a couple of decades. the suits got a little stiffer and tighter, the wraps the same, then the shirts, then double ply, triple ply, then briefs, then longer wraps, then denim, then canvass, then duble canvas, then monolift, then open back shirts, blah blah
if this would have happened at just one meet, overnight, and all the sudden the squat record (which I consider Don Reindhouts 930 still the REAL all time best) was beaten by 300lbs…then we would not even be arguing about this now.
also, you have to factor in the “underground” nature of the sport of PL. Like Tom has said many times, there is practically NO interest for the sport in the general public. the guy who placed third in the asian ping-pong championships probably has more name recognition than Donnie Thompson.
because of this, this REDONKULUS amount of tricked out gear and varied judging standards, nobody really cares except the handful of people who actually participate in the sport at some level.
there is no point in getting mad…I used to, but fuck it. I just follow the raw feds and the deadlifts.
LOUIE SIMMONS HIMSELF said this: “If you really want to find out who the strong people are look at the deadlift numbers…because that is the lift that the gear helps very little in”
“the big deadlifters, THOSE are the guys you do not want to meet in a dark alley late at night”
lol
