[quote]CSEagles1694 wrote:
You’re fucking kidding me right? Let’s take Kroc for example:
He has the highest total EVER in the 220 lb class - 2,551 to be exact. 1003 squat, 725 bench and an 810 deadlift.
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Not that it matters, and just off the top of my head, but doesn’t Frankl have the heaviest 220 total nowadays?
Edit:
1060/875/780 for 2715 @ 216lbs for Frankl (higher than the all time 242 total, too)
[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:
I have yet to meet a powerlifter who was a dick to me in real life. I only seem to find it online. And powerlifting is certainly not the only sport which gear has changed:
*swimming- suits have gotten more ‘water-dynamic’, yes, I made that word up. Also, comp pools are being built which help add speed.
*Sometimes in baseball, the rules change slightly to encourage either more hitting or tighter pitching. In college ball, you have the fancy aluminum bats which change some of the game
*I don’t know for a face, but I’m sure tennis rackets have gotten a lot better
*football- they use to just wear a leather helmet. Since the newer helmets, it completely changed how people tackle each other and how the game is played.
*hockey- I don’t follow hockey, but there’s a lot of equipment that can be improved and I bet some of it has been bettered.
That’s just off the top of my head.[/quote]
They’ve banned all suits in swimming because it was getting ridiculous - world records being broken for fun! Nothing past your knees now and nothing above the waist (unless you are a woman obviously)
I’m personally fed up with Pat Mendes being posted and then the poster telling everyone powerlifters suck. One genetic anomaly does not prove anything. And his deadlift form is a great way to tear a bicep
[quote]Bambi wrote:
[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:
I have yet to meet a powerlifter who was a dick to me in real life. I only seem to find it online. And powerlifting is certainly not the only sport which gear has changed:
*swimming- suits have gotten more ‘water-dynamic’, yes, I made that word up. Also, comp pools are being built which help add speed.
*Sometimes in baseball, the rules change slightly to encourage either more hitting or tighter pitching. In college ball, you have the fancy aluminum bats which change some of the game
*I don’t know for a face, but I’m sure tennis rackets have gotten a lot better
*football- they use to just wear a leather helmet. Since the newer helmets, it completely changed how people tackle each other and how the game is played.
*hockey- I don’t follow hockey, but there’s a lot of equipment that can be improved and I bet some of it has been bettered.
That’s just off the top of my head.[/quote]
They’ve banned all suits in swimming because it was getting ridiculous - world records being broken for fun! Nothing past your knees now and nothing above the waist (unless you are a woman obviously)
I’m personally fed up with Pat Mendes being posted and then the poster telling everyone powerlifters suck. One genetic anomaly does not prove anything. And his deadlift form is a great way to tear a bicep[/quote]
Well I’ll be damned. Good to know, I won’t be using that one again. I mostly only follow swimming when the Olympics come around. As far as that 1015lb DL goes, wow he made that look easy! I wish I had shiny chrome plates like that too. I almost expected to see the plates bedazzled on the inside.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
So no one cares about the 1015 pound raw deadlift?[/quote]
I do. Benedikt Magnusson was one of the “real” lifters that I posted.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
So no one cares about the 1015 pound raw deadlift?[/quote]
I have already sworn to name my future son “Benni,” yes, I care.
Please god just let this thread die.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
I am not hating on gear anymore…I learned my lesson a long time ago that it is beating a dead horse and I have wasted far too much time argueing/trying to make my case about it on other threads in the past.
but I will say that I do not follow geared PL at all anymore…just does not interest me at all for many many reasons.
as far as lifting goes, I think that the following are some of the most impressive lifts ever(IMO):
-pat mendez 800lb REAL raw squat (no belt, no wraps) plus he walked it out, PLUS (and I am not sure why more people do not point this out) the fact that If I remember Broz talking about that lift correctly, that he did that lift AFTER a typicaly brutal snatch or clean session. factor that in and that lift is a real amazing feat of strength and athletic ability.
-don reinhoudt’s 935 with ONLY a belt, no knee sleeves, no suit, no wraps, and of course, walking the lift out sans a monolift
if you love to follow or participate in the multiply monolift feds, more power to me, but It is just not my thing anymore.[/quote]
You know benedikt magnusson just pulled 1015 in just a belt? Overall world record without gear.
yes! that was a MONSTROUS lift. I place Konstantins a little ahead of it because he lifted in a full power meet ahead of his 925, NO belt, and he is nearly 100lbs lighter than Big Beni.
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
I am not hating on gear anymore…I learned my lesson a long time ago that it is beating a dead horse and I have wasted far too much time argueing/trying to make my case about it on other threads in the past.
but I will say that I do not follow geared PL at all anymore…just does not interest me at all for many many reasons.
as far as lifting goes, I think that the following are some of the most impressive lifts ever(IMO):
-pat mendez 800lb REAL raw squat (no belt, no wraps) plus he walked it out, PLUS (and I am not sure why more people do not point this out) the fact that If I remember Broz talking about that lift correctly, that he did that lift AFTER a typicaly brutal snatch or clean session. factor that in and that lift is a real amazing feat of strength and athletic ability.
-don reinhoudt’s 935 with ONLY a belt, no knee sleeves, no suit, no wraps, and of course, walking the lift out sans a monolift
if you love to follow or participate in the multiply monolift feds, more power to me, but It is just not my thing anymore.[/quote]
You know benedikt magnusson just pulled 1015 in just a belt? Overall world record without gear.
yes! that was a MONSTROUS lift. I place Konstantins a little ahead of it because he lifted in a full power meet ahead of his 925, NO belt, and he is nearly 100lbs lighter than Big Beni. [/quote]
I have great respect for KK, but as far as all out top strength, bodyweight excluded, this is the greatest feat of strength I have ever seen.
Just to clarify, KK is also awesome.
also, there is raw, by todays standards, then there is RAW. personally, I get 100lbs from my belt in my deadlift.
I also am old, and have several vertebrae that are bone on bone.
still, I consider a belted deadlift different from a non belted one.
KK’s 925 BELTLESS at the end of a full Power meet,
AND Pat Mendez’s 800lb RAW squat at the end of a tough OL workout, more impressive.
Just to clarify though, both Benni AND Donnie are MONSTERS who could crush the life out of me with their toes if they chose to do so.
Heavythrower, you are right. Most of us are so weak and pathetic that even second rate strength-athletes eclipse our feeble abilities. cough Donnie The Fat Douche
[quote]StormTheBeach wrote:
Please god just let this thread die.[/quote]
But its so much fun!
[quote]Bambi wrote:
[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:
I have yet to meet a powerlifter who was a dick to me in real life. I only seem to find it online. And powerlifting is certainly not the only sport which gear has changed:
*swimming- suits have gotten more ‘water-dynamic’, yes, I made that word up. Also, comp pools are being built which help add speed.
*Sometimes in baseball, the rules change slightly to encourage either more hitting or tighter pitching. In college ball, you have the fancy aluminum bats which change some of the game
*I don’t know for a face, but I’m sure tennis rackets have gotten a lot better
*football- they use to just wear a leather helmet. Since the newer helmets, it completely changed how people tackle each other and how the game is played.
*hockey- I don’t follow hockey, but there’s a lot of equipment that can be improved and I bet some of it has been bettered.
That’s just off the top of my head.[/quote]
I’m personally fed up with Pat Mendes being posted and then the poster telling everyone powerlifters suck. One genetic anomaly does not prove anything. And his deadlift form is a great way to tear a bicep[/quote]
completely agree, pat mendes is a strong kid but sam byrd walked out and squatted 800 weighing nearly 100lbs less.
pat could not walk into pl and dominate, he is strong and hopefully we can all cheer for him one day in the sport he competes in.
I’m amazed how bitchy people get about this stuff, if you dont think donnie thompsons lift is impressive then go to a pl gym squeeze into as much gear as you can get your hands on and put 1300lbs on your back, a person trains there entire life for something and performs at the top of there game they should be respected
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
also, there is raw, by todays standards, then there is RAW. personally, I get 100lbs from my belt in my deadlift.
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Whatever belt you use, I want it.
There is no federation I can think of where using a belt makes you a geared vs raw lifter.
[quote]ViKtoricus wrote:
Heavythrower, you are right. Most of us are so weak and pathetic that even second rate strength-athletes eclipse our feeble abilities. cough Donnie The Fat Douche[/quote]
Heavvy is strong and has been strong, you on the other hand aren’t and weren’t. Donnie is also.
[quote]ViKtoricus wrote:
Heavythrower, you are right. Most of us are so weak and pathetic that even second rate strength-athletes eclipse our feeble abilities. cough Donnie The Fat Douche[/quote]
who pissed in your cornflakes?
[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
[quote]ViKtoricus wrote:
Heavythrower, you are right. Most of us are so weak and pathetic that even second rate strength-athletes eclipse our feeble abilities. cough Donnie The Fat Douche[/quote]
who pissed in your cornflakes?[/quote]
Donnie Thompson.
I piss on my own cornflakes! Dumbasses.
Well maybe you should probably let Donnie start pissing in your cornflakes.
You’d probably get stronger.
You get 100 lbs from your belt because your form sucks without it. The belt doesnt give you 100 lbs.