1260 squat

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:

[quote]heavythrower wrote:

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:

[quote]fattymcfatso wrote:

springs surgically implanted behind the knees, etc.

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lol…

Side note - seriously, what is everyones problem with the monolift? Seems to me it decreases risk of injury and makes things run a lot smoother. Yes, I know, “BUT BUT BUT TEH SRS LIFTERZ WALK IT OUT EVERRRRY TIME,” cool story bro, but what does that have to do with increasing safety for current lifters who want to lift big without their leg bones snapping in half while trying to walk it out? (I am at work, someone find that video for me)

FTR - never used a monolift, lift single ply, walked out 675 in gym[/quote]

i see what you are saying…I lifted with a monolift at Diablo Barbell for a while a few years back, and LOVED it. it was nice if you had training partners, and setting up and squatting in a monolift with a box to me was very efficient and made me feel much safer when I took big weights.

but what purists like myself would argue is that the walkout is part of the lift.

remeber when there was all that controversy over that golfer, who had a physical handicap of some sort, he had trouble walking, and he had qualified to compete in the masters, but at the masters, they would not let him use a golf cart like he did at the smaller less important matches.

the reasoning is that the physical toll of walking of the course for hours was PART OF THE GAME.

so if you young guys who never have known PL life without a monolift, well, there it is:

IT IS PART OF THE FUCKING LIFT!!!

haha, I am not really shouting…just having some fun…I understand that the sport has changed…I am an old purist, and I have an opinion, I just find it more interesting to follow the RAW feds and the big deadlifts nowadays.

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The concept of being a purist strikes me as odd, for if I remember my powerlifting history, cheating has always been a part of the game, to include stuffing tennis balls behind your wraps and squatting in cut off jeans that were like 6 sizes too small. The whole “RAW” revolution is kinda new really, whereas before it was always a numbers game.

That said, I only lift unequipped because I train by myself and I’m too stupid to figure out gear. I bought a pair of knee wraps 2 months ago and they’re still sitting on top of my squat box unopened because I don’t know how to properly wrap my knees.[/quote]

this is a red herring that i will address once and not again. what you are talking about occurred at one infamous meet, cant remember year…but it was NOT the norm for the time. the big meets like the worlds stuff like this did not happen.

another thread a long time ago, i pretty much debunked this, as i posted tons of pics and links to videos of world championships from the late 70’s to mid 80’s where no such foolishness was going on.

like this:

[quote]heavythrower wrote:

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:

[quote]fattymcfatso wrote:

springs surgically implanted behind the knees, etc.

[/quote]

lol…

Side note - seriously, what is everyones problem with the monolift? Seems to me it decreases risk of injury and makes things run a lot smoother. Yes, I know, “BUT BUT BUT TEH SRS LIFTERZ WALK IT OUT EVERRRRY TIME,” cool story bro, but what does that have to do with increasing safety for current lifters who want to lift big without their leg bones snapping in half while trying to walk it out? (I am at work, someone find that video for me)

FTR - never used a monolift, lift single ply, walked out 675 in gym[/quote]

i see what you are saying…I lifted with a monolift at Diablo Barbell for a while a few years back, and LOVED it. it was nice if you had training partners, and setting up and squatting in a monolift with a box to me was very efficient and made me feel much safer when I took big weights.

but what purists like myself would argue is that the walkout is part of the lift.

remeber when there was all that controversy over that golfer, who had a physical handicap of some sort, he had trouble walking, and he had qualified to compete in the masters, but at the masters, they would not let him use a golf cart like he did at the smaller less important matches.

the reasoning is that the physical toll of walking of the course for hours was PART OF THE GAME.

so if you young guys who never have known PL life without a monolift, well, there it is:

IT IS PART OF THE FUCKING LIFT!!!

haha, I am not really shouting…just having some fun…I understand that the sport has changed…I am an old purist, and I have an opinion, I just find it more interesting to follow the RAW feds and the big deadlifts nowadays.

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I agree with a lot of what you are saying. I prefer following the raw feds and I’m no fan of gear. But it’s one path the sport has taken, and I’m OK with it and recognize it for what it is: a way to push boundaries that otherwise wouldn’t have been touched.

As someone coming from an olympic sport background, you’ve seen this same thing play out even if you didn’t think about it. Crash pads revolutionized high jumping and pole vaulting (not to mention the way the poles changed). I look at the Monolift like a crash pad. So I guess we all have our lines in the sand beyond which change is unacceptable; it’s just tough to argue that belts and wraps are OK but shirts and suits are not. So I guess guys like us can just stick the the raw feds and appreciate a 1260 geared squat as an incredible feat of strength, which it most certainly is.

[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:

[quote]heavythrower wrote:

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:

[quote]fattymcfatso wrote:

springs surgically implanted behind the knees, etc.

[/quote]

lol…

Side note - seriously, what is everyones problem with the monolift? Seems to me it decreases risk of injury and makes things run a lot smoother. Yes, I know, “BUT BUT BUT TEH SRS LIFTERZ WALK IT OUT EVERRRRY TIME,” cool story bro, but what does that have to do with increasing safety for current lifters who want to lift big without their leg bones snapping in half while trying to walk it out? (I am at work, someone find that video for me)

FTR - never used a monolift, lift single ply, walked out 675 in gym[/quote]

i see what you are saying…I lifted with a monolift at Diablo Barbell for a while a few years back, and LOVED it. it was nice if you had training partners, and setting up and squatting in a monolift with a box to me was very efficient and made me feel much safer when I took big weights.

but what purists like myself would argue is that the walkout is part of the lift.

remeber when there was all that controversy over that golfer, who had a physical handicap of some sort, he had trouble walking, and he had qualified to compete in the masters, but at the masters, they would not let him use a golf cart like he did at the smaller less important matches.

the reasoning is that the physical toll of walking of the course for hours was PART OF THE GAME.

so if you young guys who never have known PL life without a monolift, well, there it is:

IT IS PART OF THE FUCKING LIFT!!!

haha, I am not really shouting…just having some fun…I understand that the sport has changed…I am an old purist, and I have an opinion, I just find it more interesting to follow the RAW feds and the big deadlifts nowadays.

[/quote]

I agree with a lot of what you are saying. I prefer following the raw feds and I’m no fan of gear. But it’s one path the sport has taken, and I’m OK with it and recognize it for what it is: a way to push boundaries that otherwise wouldn’t have been touched.

As someone coming from an olympic sport background, you’ve seen this same thing play out even if you didn’t think about it. Crash pads revolutionized high jumping and pole vaulting (not to mention the way the poles changed). I look at the Monolift like a crash pad. So I guess we all have our lines in the sand beyond which change is unacceptable; it’s just tough to argue that belts and wraps are OK but shirts and suits are not. So I guess guys like us can just stick the the raw feds and appreciate a 1260 geared squat as an incredible feat of strength, which it most certainly is.
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well said!

[quote]heavythrower wrote:

[quote]iluvgmas wrote:

[quote]Bambi wrote:

[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:
I have yet to meet a powerlifter who was a dick to me in real life. I only seem to find it online. And powerlifting is certainly not the only sport which gear has changed:

*swimming- suits have gotten more ‘water-dynamic’, yes, I made that word up. Also, comp pools are being built which help add speed.

*Sometimes in baseball, the rules change slightly to encourage either more hitting or tighter pitching. In college ball, you have the fancy aluminum bats which change some of the game

*I don’t know for a face, but I’m sure tennis rackets have gotten a lot better

*football- they use to just wear a leather helmet. Since the newer helmets, it completely changed how people tackle each other and how the game is played.

*hockey- I don’t follow hockey, but there’s a lot of equipment that can be improved and I bet some of it has been bettered.

That’s just off the top of my head.[/quote]

I’m personally fed up with Pat Mendes being posted and then the poster telling everyone powerlifters suck. One genetic anomaly does not prove anything. And his deadlift form is a great way to tear a bicep[/quote]

completely agree, pat mendes is a strong kid but sam byrd walked out and squatted 800 weighing nearly 100lbs less.

pat could not walk into pl and dominate, he is strong and hopefully we can all cheer for him one day in the sport he competes in.

I’m amazed how bitchy people get about this stuff, if you dont think donnie thompsons lift is impressive then go to a pl gym squeeze into as much gear as you can get your hands on and put 1300lbs on your back, a person trains there entire life for something and performs at the top of there game they should be respected
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this may be a repost, if so sorry in advance.

we will have to agree to disagree here.

not sure what you want me to say…that Bryd is not so strong, that he sucks?

Bryd is a BEAST and a special strength athlete.

but he hit that squat with a belt, and it was the first lift of a meet he trained specifically for for months, no?

If my feeble memory is intact…Mendez had probably already squated 700 plus several times that very week, all as assistance to his main lifts, the c/j and snatch.

AND he probably hit that monstrous squat at the end of a brutal snatch or clean (or both) workout.

as somebody who has trained and even competed (at a very low level albeit) in the OL, I know how much 10-15 sets of heavy OL’s will take out of you,

If you cant see the difference and how that makes Pat’s lift one of the truly special feats of strength out there, like I said, we will just have to respectfully agree to disagree
:slight_smile:

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I dont see how that makes the lift anymore special sam has hit 800 in a training cycle as well as in a meet and competes at about 100lbs less than pat thats a pretty huge difference.

Pat trains with a high volume approach, alot of guys train with higher volume it doesnt make there lifts more impressive than someone who trains with lower volume and has significantly better results, if anything it just makes it that much less impressive(harder work with less payout). I dont think Pat is a schmuck and its an impressive lift but he is an o-lifter, if we are going to talk about how awesome pat is lets talk about a 200+kg snatch thats a much grander feat than a 300lb dude squatting 800(especially if your trying to compare it to powerlifters)

[quote]iluvgmas wrote:

[quote]heavythrower wrote:

[quote]iluvgmas wrote:

[quote]Bambi wrote:

[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:
I have yet to meet a powerlifter who was a dick to me in real life. I only seem to find it online. And powerlifting is certainly not the only sport which gear has changed:

*swimming- suits have gotten more ‘water-dynamic’, yes, I made that word up. Also, comp pools are being built which help add speed.

*Sometimes in baseball, the rules change slightly to encourage either more hitting or tighter pitching. In college ball, you have the fancy aluminum bats which change some of the game

*I don’t know for a face, but I’m sure tennis rackets have gotten a lot better

*football- they use to just wear a leather helmet. Since the newer helmets, it completely changed how people tackle each other and how the game is played.

*hockey- I don’t follow hockey, but there’s a lot of equipment that can be improved and I bet some of it has been bettered.

That’s just off the top of my head.[/quote]

I’m personally fed up with Pat Mendes being posted and then the poster telling everyone powerlifters suck. One genetic anomaly does not prove anything. And his deadlift form is a great way to tear a bicep[/quote]

completely agree, pat mendes is a strong kid but sam byrd walked out and squatted 800 weighing nearly 100lbs less.

pat could not walk into pl and dominate, he is strong and hopefully we can all cheer for him one day in the sport he competes in.

I’m amazed how bitchy people get about this stuff, if you dont think donnie thompsons lift is impressive then go to a pl gym squeeze into as much gear as you can get your hands on and put 1300lbs on your back, a person trains there entire life for something and performs at the top of there game they should be respected
[/quote]

this may be a repost, if so sorry in advance.

we will have to agree to disagree here.

not sure what you want me to say…that Bryd is not so strong, that he sucks?

Bryd is a BEAST and a special strength athlete.

but he hit that squat with a belt, and it was the first lift of a meet he trained specifically for for months, no?

If my feeble memory is intact…Mendez had probably already squated 700 plus several times that very week, all as assistance to his main lifts, the c/j and snatch.

AND he probably hit that monstrous squat at the end of a brutal snatch or clean (or both) workout.

as somebody who has trained and even competed (at a very low level albeit) in the OL, I know how much 10-15 sets of heavy OL’s will take out of you,

If you cant see the difference and how that makes Pat’s lift one of the truly special feats of strength out there, like I said, we will just have to respectfully agree to disagree
:slight_smile:

[/quote]

I dont see how that makes the lift anymore special sam has hit 800 in a training cycle as well as in a meet and competes at about 100lbs less than pat thats a pretty huge difference.

Pat trains with a high volume approach, alot of guys train with higher volume it doesnt make there lifts more impressive than someone who trains with lower volume and has significantly better results, if anything it just makes it that much less impressive(harder work with less payout). I dont think Pat is a schmuck and its an impressive lift but he is an o-lifter, if we are going to talk about how awesome pat is lets talk about a 200+kg snatch thats a much grander feat than a 300lb dude squatting 800(especially if your trying to compare it to powerlifters)
[/quote]

I disagree with so much of this post I am too tired to respond to it. like I said before, we can just agree to disagree.

[quote]heavythrower wrote:

[quote]iluvgmas wrote:

[quote]heavythrower wrote:

[quote]iluvgmas wrote:

[quote]Bambi wrote:

[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:
I have yet to meet a powerlifter who was a dick to me in real life. I only seem to find it online. And powerlifting is certainly not the only sport which gear has changed:

*swimming- suits have gotten more ‘water-dynamic’, yes, I made that word up. Also, comp pools are being built which help add speed.

*Sometimes in baseball, the rules change slightly to encourage either more hitting or tighter pitching. In college ball, you have the fancy aluminum bats which change some of the game

*I don’t know for a face, but I’m sure tennis rackets have gotten a lot better

*football- they use to just wear a leather helmet. Since the newer helmets, it completely changed how people tackle each other and how the game is played.

*hockey- I don’t follow hockey, but there’s a lot of equipment that can be improved and I bet some of it has been bettered.

That’s just off the top of my head.[/quote]

I’m personally fed up with Pat Mendes being posted and then the poster telling everyone powerlifters suck. One genetic anomaly does not prove anything. And his deadlift form is a great way to tear a bicep[/quote]

completely agree, pat mendes is a strong kid but sam byrd walked out and squatted 800 weighing nearly 100lbs less.

pat could not walk into pl and dominate, he is strong and hopefully we can all cheer for him one day in the sport he competes in.

I’m amazed how bitchy people get about this stuff, if you dont think donnie thompsons lift is impressive then go to a pl gym squeeze into as much gear as you can get your hands on and put 1300lbs on your back, a person trains there entire life for something and performs at the top of there game they should be respected
[/quote]

this may be a repost, if so sorry in advance.

we will have to agree to disagree here.

not sure what you want me to say…that Bryd is not so strong, that he sucks?

Bryd is a BEAST and a special strength athlete.

but he hit that squat with a belt, and it was the first lift of a meet he trained specifically for for months, no?

If my feeble memory is intact…Mendez had probably already squated 700 plus several times that very week, all as assistance to his main lifts, the c/j and snatch.

AND he probably hit that monstrous squat at the end of a brutal snatch or clean (or both) workout.

as somebody who has trained and even competed (at a very low level albeit) in the OL, I know how much 10-15 sets of heavy OL’s will take out of you,

If you cant see the difference and how that makes Pat’s lift one of the truly special feats of strength out there, like I said, we will just have to respectfully agree to disagree
:slight_smile:

[/quote]

I dont see how that makes the lift anymore special sam has hit 800 in a training cycle as well as in a meet and competes at about 100lbs less than pat thats a pretty huge difference.

Pat trains with a high volume approach, alot of guys train with higher volume it doesnt make there lifts more impressive than someone who trains with lower volume and has significantly better results, if anything it just makes it that much less impressive(harder work with less payout). I dont think Pat is a schmuck and its an impressive lift but he is an o-lifter, if we are going to talk about how awesome pat is lets talk about a 200+kg snatch thats a much grander feat than a 300lb dude squatting 800(especially if your trying to compare it to powerlifters)
[/quote]

I disagree with so much of this post I am too tired to respond to it. like I said before, we can just agree to disagree. [/quote]

I apologize, it was ridiculous of me to attempt to debate what another person finds more or less impressive

no worries brother…it is fun to talk about this stuff…just you have to realize when your opinion is just your opinion…sort of like some like chocolate, some vanilla…neither is wrong…just different…

edit:

like some would thing my avatar pic is ridiculously HAWT, some will think she is fat…just a personal preference…

by the way… my wifey is built almost just like my avatar…I find this type of build on a woman irresistible. :slight_smile:

[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
Well maybe you should probably let Donnie start pissing in your cornflakes.

You’d probably get stronger.[/quote]

There’s strong medicine in that urine.

[quote]Stronghold wrote:

[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
Well maybe you should probably let Donnie start pissing in your cornflakes.

You’d probably get stronger.[/quote]

There’s strong medicine in that urine.[/quote]

hahaha!!!