[quote]StormTheBeach wrote:
By the way, Donnie Thompson has an 870lb raw squat, that he walked out, in 2006.[/quote]
And like I said, my good sir, that is all I care about when it comes to his lifting. His raw lifts are what matters to me.
870 is beastly. Props for him! REAL props for him this time!
Now please, someone should delete that fake, 1260 squat out of the internet! Please!
[quote]ViKtoricus wrote:
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my point exactly
this is completely off topic, but doea anyone have any idea how much that bar weighs? I know they cant be using the typical 45 pounder
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
[quote]BigSkwatta wrote:
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
In before everyone starts crying about depth.[/quote]
I don’t think there is anything to cry about on this one unless people just really want to bitch about something…
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This is powerlifting on the internet. There’s always something to bitch about.
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TOLD YA SO! 
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
The thing people don?t seem to understand about power lifting is that it is a sport, it is not something you do at the gym.
Sports use equipment.
It makes as much sense to complain that a batter in baseball improves his ability to hit a ball by using a bat as to complain about a squat suit in a geared powerlifting competition. It is the rules of the game.
In baseball the goal is to hit the ball the best you can with a bat. Whether or not that is the same as something you do in the gym doesn?t matter.
The goal of powerlifting is to lift as much as you can in whatever gear they allow. An exercise you do in the gym has no bearing on that either.
To all the idiots always complaining about gear, please go to a baseball forum and tell everyone they should use their hands to bat with, because that?s how dumb you are.
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don’t think this is a fair analogy.
more accurate analogy would be allowing batters to use whatever size/shape bats they want while allowing pitchers to use tacky.
All hail the powerlifting prophetess!
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
[quote]BigSkwatta wrote:
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
In before everyone starts crying about depth.[/quote]
I don’t think there is anything to cry about on this one unless people just really want to bitch about something…
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x2[/quote]
This is powerlifting on the internet. There’s always something to bitch about.
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TOLD YA SO! :P[/quote]
[quote]Chris87 wrote:
this is completely off topic, but doea anyone have any idea how much that bar weighs? I know they cant be using the typical 45 pounder[/quote]
I think it was 60-65lbs.
[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
All hail the powerlifting prophetess!
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
[quote]BigSkwatta wrote:
[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
In before everyone starts crying about depth.[/quote]
I don’t think there is anything to cry about on this one unless people just really want to bitch about something…
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x2[/quote]
This is powerlifting on the internet. There’s always something to bitch about.
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TOLD YA SO! :P[/quote]
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[quote]tom63 wrote:
[quote]Chris87 wrote:
this is completely off topic, but doea anyone have any idea how much that bar weighs? I know they cant be using the typical 45 pounder[/quote]
I think it was 60-65lbs.[/quote]
Here’s the bar that he most likely used: http://ironwolfebarbell.com/artic_wolfe.html . It’s 65 lbs and absolutely tears into your back, like no other bar I’ve tried.
[quote]ViKtoricus wrote:
REAL powerlifters:
Ed Coan, Shane Hamman (who is actually an Olympic Weightlifter first and Powerlifter second), Kirk Karwoski, anyone who competes in the IPF, anyone who doesn’t intentionally get fat just to gain leverage, anyone who is not a “closet bodybuilder” like Dave Tate and Matt Kroczaleski (I don’t know if I spelled that right and I don’t give a flying fuck if I did or didn’t), Mikhail Koklyaev (who again, is not even mainly a powerlifter.), Bill Kazmaier (WHO IS NOT EVEN A POWERLIFTER), Frederick Hatfield, Lee Moran, Dave Waddington, Scott Mendelson (who, as much as he doesn’t squat or deadlift, at least have proven himself to have REAL bench pressing strength), Andy Bolton, Benedikt Magnusson, Andrey Malanichev, Konstantin Konstantinovs, Mark Henry (…who is also not even a powerlifter…), … and basically anyone who dedicates his entire training in the pursuit of cheating.
This guy deserves more glory than Donnie “The Fat Douche” Thompson.
You’re fucking kidding me right? Let’s take Kroc for example:
He has the highest total EVER in the 220 lb class - 2,551 to be exact. 1003 squat, 725 bench and an 810 deadlift.
He has also won a couple of bodybuilding competitions.
Donnie Thompson: WR Squat
WR Total
Let’s see… you!
Uhm, none of the above? Storm is right, all of the lifters you listed are juiced to the gills. Get fucking real. Do you really think that those who dedicate themselves to the sport and winning are jokes and douche bags? Quite frankly, the only douche bag here is you. As far as I know, you don’t even compete for fuck’s sake. Grow a pair and stop shitting on everybody else who doesn’t agree with you. Stop trolling this place and trying to shove your RRRRRAAAWWWWW zealot politics up everybody’s ass. All the people you listed are twice the lifter and probably twice the man you’ll ever be. I’m 16 and I’m smart enough to know that it’s assholes like you who are ruining this sport.
Luke
I am not hating on gear anymore…I learned my lesson a long time ago that it is beating a dead horse and I have wasted far too much time argueing/trying to make my case about it on other threads in the past.
but I will say that I do not follow geared PL at all anymore…just does not interest me at all for many many reasons.
as far as lifting goes, I think that the following are some of the most impressive lifts ever(IMO):
-pat mendez 800lb REAL raw squat (no belt, no wraps) plus he walked it out, PLUS (and I am not sure why more people do not point this out) the fact that If I remember Broz talking about that lift correctly, that he did that lift AFTER a typicaly brutal snatch or clean session. factor that in and that lift is a real amazing feat of strength and athletic ability.
-don reinhoudt’s 935 with ONLY a belt, no knee sleeves, no suit, no wraps, and of course, walking the lift out sans a monolift
- konstantine konstanov’s 925 dl raw (again, REAL raw, no belt, no NOTHING) AFTER a 700 plus RAW squat during a full PL meet.
if you love to follow or participate in the multiply monolift feds, more power to me, but It is just not my thing anymore.
I’m getting more and more like that also Heavy. all I want is them to tighten up judging in the heavier gear feds , like they did at the 2010 IPas.
Then people can do what they do. But I think gear is good for the sport. It gives choices and i think gear has helped bring about raw lifting, or helped it to the forefront.
In the early 80s when I lifted in the USPF, there was no raw category. Everyone used supersuits. now with this crazy gear some people want no part of it, so they lift raw. Now they have the new option of head to head lifting against people in the same category.
[quote]tom63 wrote:
I’m getting more and more like that also Heavy. all I want is them to tighten up judging in the heavier gear feds , like they did at the 2010 IPas.
Then people can do what they do. But I think gear is good for the sport. It gives choices and i think gear has helped bring about raw lifting, or helped it to the forefront.
In the early 80s when I lifted in the USPF, there was no raw category. Everyone used supersuits. now with this crazy gear some people want no part of it, so they lift raw. Now they have the new option of head to head lifting against people in the same category.[/quote]
I’ve always just seen it as two different sports. You lift raw, you compete with other raw lifters. You lift geared, you compete with other geared lifters. One is not better than the other, they are just two types of powerlifting.
I didnt realize there was such animosity and hatred till I logged on to TEH INTERWEB
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
I am not hating on gear anymore…I learned my lesson a long time ago that it is beating a dead horse and I have wasted far too much time argueing/trying to make my case about it on other threads in the past.
but I will say that I do not follow geared PL at all anymore…just does not interest me at all for many many reasons.
as far as lifting goes, I think that the following are some of the most impressive lifts ever(IMO):
-pat mendez 800lb REAL raw squat (no belt, no wraps) plus he walked it out, PLUS (and I am not sure why more people do not point this out) the fact that If I remember Broz talking about that lift correctly, that he did that lift AFTER a typicaly brutal snatch or clean session. factor that in and that lift is a real amazing feat of strength and athletic ability.
-don reinhoudt’s 935 with ONLY a belt, no knee sleeves, no suit, no wraps, and of course, walking the lift out sans a monolift
- konstantine konstanov’s 925 dl raw (again, REAL raw, no belt, no NOTHING) AFTER a 700 plus RAW squat during a full PL meet.
if you love to follow or participate in the multiply monolift feds, more power to me, but It is just not my thing anymore.[/quote]
You know benedikt magnusson just pulled 1015 in just a belt? Overall world record without gear.
[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
[quote]tom63 wrote:
I’m getting more and more like that also Heavy. all I want is them to tighten up judging in the heavier gear feds , like they did at the 2010 IPas.
Then people can do what they do. But I think gear is good for the sport. It gives choices and i think gear has helped bring about raw lifting, or helped it to the forefront.
In the early 80s when I lifted in the USPF, there was no raw category. Everyone used supersuits. now with this crazy gear some people want no part of it, so they lift raw. Now they have the new option of head to head lifting against people in the same category.[/quote]
I’ve always just seen it as two different sports. You lift raw, you compete with other raw lifters. You lift geared, you compete with other geared lifters. One is not better than the other, they are just two types of powerlifting.
I didnt realize there was such animosity and hatred till I logged on to TEH INTERWEB[/quote]
Yep, I’m a raw/gear advocate. I Don’t like all the heavy squat bench stuff because you need guys and I don’t Always have the guys. I like a deadlift suit because I get it on in ten seconds and can lift on my own.
I know heavy squats suits, briefs and bench shirts are cheating!!! deadlifts suits don’t count because I said so.
Do what you like. I’ve been around awhile and know what’s strong and what isn’t.
[quote]tom63 wrote:
[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
[quote]tom63 wrote:
I’m getting more and more like that also Heavy. all I want is them to tighten up judging in the heavier gear feds , like they did at the 2010 IPas.
Then people can do what they do. But I think gear is good for the sport. It gives choices and i think gear has helped bring about raw lifting, or helped it to the forefront.
In the early 80s when I lifted in the USPF, there was no raw category. Everyone used supersuits. now with this crazy gear some people want no part of it, so they lift raw. Now they have the new option of head to head lifting against people in the same category.[/quote]
I’ve always just seen it as two different sports. You lift raw, you compete with other raw lifters. You lift geared, you compete with other geared lifters. One is not better than the other, they are just two types of powerlifting.
I didnt realize there was such animosity and hatred till I logged on to TEH INTERWEB[/quote]
Yep, I’m a raw/gear advocate. I Don’t like all the heavy squat bench stuff because you need guys and I don’t Always have the guys. I like a deadlift suit because I get it on in ten seconds and can lift on my own.
I know heavy squats suits, briefs and bench shirts are cheating!!! deadlifts suits don’t count because I said so.
Do what you like. I’ve been around awhile and know what’s strong and what isn’t.
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lololol “cause i said so”
we are in agreement.
True Dixiefinest. I’m slightly against gear now because it’s a PITA. But if I were around a group of guys who trained together it would be fun. The cost is another pain.
Back in the day it was less than 75$ to outfit yourself with everything. That would be a suit and wraps. then the inzer blast shirts came out. then things got better and stronger and had greater carryover. And cost more.
I could spend close to a grand on my kid to outfit him, so he lifts raw. I gave him my to small deadlift suit to try. but I’m keeping him out of most of it for now.
So no one cares about the 1015 pound raw deadlift?
That was maybe the best lift I’ve ever seen. Fast and strong. It doesn’t bother me if he did it either way because the deadlift is the least affected lift with gear.
And Benni is one nice guy also.