I got a scholarship for football as a D-Tackle to Southwest Minnesota State (D2). It is for sure a program on the rise, just built a brand new stadium, fired all their former coaching staff and brought in top notch guys. All good stuff, I am pumped. We are even playing on National televison next year against Minnesota-Duluth. Whether I play or redshirt will be determined pretty soon here.
ahh nice, thought you would go to a d1 school though since your lifts are d1 caliber. D1 don’t give out nice scholarships unless your huge and have your lifs-like 300+lbs and 6’4+ ext-
Your avatar is wrestling are you going to be two sport athlete, and wrestle also?
I would like to be, I mean wrestling is bar-none one of the best conditioning sports around, but it will all depend on what my football coaches allow me to do. But yea, you hit is right on the head, I am just a couple inches too short. I had an opportunity if i truly wanted to walk on at Wisconsin and try to earn a scholarship, but let’s be honest the school needs to get their money out of their scholarship players first and foremost, so more than likley I would have been nothing but a bag boy.
Regardless, I am excited as hell to start my college football career, and more importantly get a top notch education (which a lot of fellow players tend to forget).
I have a hard time believing that you ran a 4.8 electronic 40 at 6-1 270 and did not receive a D1 scholarship. Players like Warren Sapp and Mike Patterson were only 5-11 and ran 5.0 40’s yet they were highly recruited by the top schools in the country(Miami and USC respectively). Regardless, keep working hard and enjoy college football.
lol believe it dude, crap happens every day. Plain and simple times are different now, you need to fit a certain mold in order to play at high divisons. I went down to Eastern Illinois (D1-AA), did their training camp, the coaches were impressed with the numbers and everything and at the end of the day they said “Nick, we need one thing from you…”, “about two more inches to your height”.
At first I flipped, I was like how dare they i have the work ethic, the talent…ect. But then I tried to look at it from an unbiased perspective, high level coaches need to win, plain and simple. If they lose, their job is gone. Every day D1 o-line coaches are recruiting players that are 6’5-6’7 300+ pounds, because they fit the mold needed. What is the best way to counter balance a huge guy?? Get another huge guy (6’1, 270 vs 6’5, 320…common sense will be quick to pick a winner). It was nothing personal it is just business.
Have athletes in the past defied the odds? Yes, take Jim Leonard from Wisconsin. Have there been examples of guy’s who “fought the good fight” only to get his ass kicked time and time again? Yes Rudy from Notre Dame. At the end of the day you gotta be happy with the decisions you made and used the gifts god(or whatever your religion’s creator is named) has given you. If you want to see some of my film from my junior year when i played offensive guard feel free to view it at
http://recruit-match.ncsasports.org/fasttrack/vtprofile.do?id=13209
By the way all my numbers had to have been verified by combines before the NCSA could even put them up in my profile. Haha so it leaves little room for lying.
Yep he is right, its the same in almost every sport actually. In track also, a lot of good throwers are passed up because they are simply not tall enough. They might throw farther, but the coaches look at the bigger body and see more ‘potential’ which is bullshit but its a better shot in their mind.
There is a reason that the nfl lineman are all HUGE as in height and body size you don’t see many under 320lbs and most are very tall. Of course some exceptions but its rare that coaches take the chance, you would have to be extremely talented.
[quote]PlayoffsOrBust wrote:
okay, for football at our high school, we have this thing called the 1200 Club. common sense i would assume considering the type on this site, but it’s the sum of our four core lifts.
Bench Press
Squat
Deadlift
Power Clean
If it’s over 1200 lbs., you’re in. Civil accomplishment for some, but for HS kids, it’s a milestone. So, who here would make it and with what numbers?
I’m 15lbs. short, until next week atleast.
BP - 220
SQ - 300
DL - 435
PC - 230[/quote]
Im 15 in high school and our football team has up to a 1000 pound club, but does not include deadlifts. We just have the bench press, squat, and power clean. I total 860, but am pretty sure I can deadlift at least 365.
Best lifts
Bench press-275
squat-385
power clean-205.
nick endres,
Your “verified” NCSA numbers indicate that you ran faster and jumped higher than the top performing offensive lineman at the NFL combine(your 4.8 40 and 31.5 vertical vs. top scores of 4.99 and 30.5).
[quote]azbulldog wrote:
nick endres,
Your “verified” NCSA numbers indicate that you ran faster and jumped higher than the top performing offensive lineman at the NFL combine(your 4.8 40 and 31.5 vertical vs. top scores of 4.99 and 30.5).[/quote]
Even in the nfl 40 times and vertical are not very strict-not actuate results at all- at a high school they would be a lot worse. I’m sure others on his team had some pretty amazing 40 times also if you compared to nfl testing.
Age- 18
177 lbs, 6’0"
Bench- 260 lbs
Squat- 365 lbs
Deadlift- 425 lbs
Powerclean- 235 lbs (Clean and jerked 215 lbs)
Total- 1285 lbs
I did these clubs too…before most of you were born!lol (Fuck I am starting to age now)
Powerlifting in Ohio, Indiana, and PA were competative sport events and we had our meets sanctioned by the USPF. So, we learned that b.s. squats or bounching was a no go pretty early on. I competed at the 165lb class and my best raw numbers in highschool in 1989 were.
Bn- 270
Sq- 405
DL- 415
We never recorded our power clean numbers, we just did them as a staple.
[quote]shizen wrote:
azbulldog wrote:
nick endres,
Your “verified” NCSA numbers indicate that you ran faster and jumped higher than the top performing offensive lineman at the NFL combine(your 4.8 40 and 31.5 vertical vs. top scores of 4.99 and 30.5).
Even in the nfl 40 times and vertical are not very strict-not actuate results at all- at a high school they would be a lot worse. I’m sure others on his team had some pretty amazing 40 times also if you compared to nfl testing. [/quote]
Baloney. NFL times are as accurate as you can get. Everyone is held to the same testing standards. There’s a reason college prospects touted as 4.4 guys get to the Combine and run 4.55 or 4.6s.
I also have to agree with azbulldog. 6’2" isn’t too short for those numbers; hell, there’s TONS of 6’2" C and G playing D-1 ball.
So - 6’2", 270 running a 4.8 (laser-timed), 31.5 vert, and benching 400+ - as a HIGH SCHOOL prospect? And you couldn’t get E. Illinois even after attending their camp? Doesn’t sound very plausible…
Alright, well i am on the D-Line(D-Tackle), so check your shit again haha. I did play guard(sophomore and junior year), but then I moved to D-tackle for my senior (which I got my scholarship at). Haha dude I am a scholarship football player for a reason, I am not going to bullshit you. NCSA is the top recruiting service for high school athletes in the country, and they are at all major combines so they have all of your numbers right there, and plug them into the data base, based upon your results right after.
Stop hating dude because you think it is impossible or you’re jealous, I have worked my ass off since a young age to have the stat’s that I do, and for you to even question my numbers is ridiculous. You’re gonna be quick to say, there is no d-lineman that can run an electronic 4.8…well…how about you look to Brock Lesnar who at 6’3 295 ran a 4.7 and had a 35’’ vert- Grappling with his future .
Plain and simple you’re wrong dude no matter what you say, I’m the real deal and the scholarship proves it. Quit hatin’ and have a nice day. By the way, I had really shitty grades in high school which limited me as to what schools were interested in me. I mean I generally had around a 2.5, but these day’s that doesn’t cut it.
Plus I am only listed at 6’2, I am more along the lines of 6’1 even, but they up your numbers in football. Like I said before you need to fit the mold, regardless of anything else. I am not 6’2-6’3 which is REQUIRED for D1 these days, combined with a 2.5 gpa, and it is easy to see how getting overlooked was a possiblity.
I had the lifting and running numbers, but plain and simple coach’s can’t take risk’s, when it means their jobs. I am not bitter or doing the whole would’ve should’ve could’ve thing, instead I am gearin’ up to get ready for college ball and make the most of it at the D2 level. Plus I am from Wisconsin, let’s be real about this, Wisconsin isn’t the ideal football state in someone’s mind.
A kid very similar to myself except younger who used to go to my school, moved down to Texas and started on his team down there as a sophomore this year, and he is already getting looks by top school’s. Because I played Guard my sophomore and junior year and then change my senior year to d-tackle many top school’s didn’t know about me, and for the coaches that did know about me, all they knew was I was playing guard at 6’1, 270 and there is no way they are going to take a chance on that. Things seem to make a little more sense when I begin to explain them, now don’t they?
[quote]nickendres wrote:
Alright, well i am on the D-Line(D-Tackle), so check your shit again haha. I did play guard(sophomore and junior year), but then I moved to D-tackle for my senior (which I got my scholarship at). Haha dude I am a scholarship football player for a reason, I am not going to bullshit you. NCSA is the top recruiting service for high school athletes in the country, and they are at all major combines so they have all of your numbers right there, and plug them into the data base, based upon your results right after.
Stop hating dude because you think it is impossible or you’re jealous, I have worked my ass off since a young age to have the stat’s that I do, and for you to even question my numbers is ridiculous. You’re gonna be quick to say, there is no d-lineman that can run an electronic 4.8…well…how about you look to Brock Lesnar who at 6’3 295 ran a 4.7 and had a 35’’ vert- Grappling with his future .
Plain and simple you’re wrong dude no matter what you say, I’m the real deal and the scholarship proves it. Quit hatin’ and have a nice day. By the way, I had really shitty grades in high school which limited me as to what schools were interested in me. I mean I generally had around a 2.5, but these day’s that doesn’t cut it.[/quote]
Jealous? LOL. Look kid, I played this game at a level you can only dream about. Not meant to take anything away from you, getting a scholarship is quite an achievement, but let’s just say I know what the f I’m talking about. And you’re right, I brought up O-line b/c that’s what you were listed on in your video and that’s what you were playing. FYI, height is even less a concern at DT than on OL.
Your analogy with Brock Lesnar is absurd. You’re bringing up a steroid-enhanced professional athlete as the standard for what can be achieved? Lesnar is an ELITE athlete. Of course he’s going to have great numbers, and that’s exactly why it further illustrates the fishiness of what you claim. I know nothing about how rigid the testing is at NCSA, but a 4.8 at 270 in HS is a very good time. Couple that with your supposed strength numbers, and well, it’s excellent, really. And I never said d-linemen can’t run 4.8s, hell there’s plenty of them that can. But there’s a BIG difference between 22 year old seniors at national programs and 17 or 18 year old HS kids.
Actually, I think I have it. If those numbers are indeed accurate, then the answer is pretty simple: you are a great workout warrior who just isn’t that good a football player, at least as a D1 college prospect.
I’m sorry if that comes across as harsh, but since you’re the “real deal” I’ll put an offer out there for ya: if you can provide video of your 405x3 bench, 545 squat, and especially your 315x5 cleans, and a football highlight tape with 3-4 full game tapes, I can put them in the hands of coaches at a D-1 school. Then, if they like what they see, perhaps an invite to run that 4.8 40.
PM me if interested.
Our school also does a 1,000 pound club with just bench, squat, and power clean. However our coaches force us to squat full depth which is why it’s rare for a ton of people to make it on bullshit lifts.
BP-385
SQ-365(torn ACL. only been squatting for 2 months since injury)
PC-275
total of 1,025. I deadlift 405 so for your school’s scale I would total 430. And I realize a lot of you will consider 405 low but I’ve only been deadlifting seriously for two months out of 4 years of training.
I finally got it. After my warmup sets of 225x5 and 275x3, i hit 310 easily. Went for 315, and got it easily. Tried one more for shits’n’giggles and i ended the day at 330.
final tally - 1215
and yes, i know it’s quite a jump from my previous max, but it has been about 2 months or so since i maxed out
How often do you guys get a shot to max and make the 1,200 pound club?
[quote]MAS50 wrote:
How often do you guys get a shot to max and make the 1,200 pound club?[/quote]
we could try for a new max everyday if we wanted, so you alot of guys climb the totem pole 5 pounds at a time. and if i understand the rest of the question, i don’t think there is a deadline on the club. a milestone is a milestone