Do you start the dumbell row on the ground, or in the air, around shin level? How much are you bent over? Are you in a DLift position or romanian DLift position?
I am doing triples
Thank You for your time and for your answer
Andrew
You can start it from the ground or from the hang. There is no one right way to do it.
As far as how low to go, you want to start with your hips pushed back so that theres a feeling of stretch in the glutes and hamstrings (like in a RDL).
-MAtt
Check out around 0:15 of this video for Ross doing them:
Essentially you want to be in a similar position to doing RDL’s or cleans. I usually do them from a hang like in the video, gives the grip a good workout and keeps the weight on your body throughout the set.
And who the hell is this Matt McGory guy and what did he do with matgic.
I prefer starting from the floor with the db between my legs.
[quote]Donut62 wrote:
And who the hell is this Matt McGory guy and what did he do with matgic.[/quote]
Who cares, they’re both jerks. 
[quote]Donut62 wrote:
And who the hell is this Matt McGory guy and what did he do with matgic.[/quote]
Haha, well I decided to change my name since my seminar attendence has greatly increased. I got kind of tired of having to say “Yea, I’m the guy, Matgic on T-Nation…you know, the one with the most muscular pose as my avatar?”
But thanks for noticing, I’m flattered, haha.
-MAtt(gic)
[quote]David Barr wrote:
Donut62 wrote:
And who the hell is this Matt McGory guy and what did he do with matgic.
Who cares, they’re both jerks. :P[/quote]
Barr, we’re not talking about jerks here…only snatches! So I guess it’s fitting that you showed up. 
Which reminds me; we never did get those pygmy hookers, maybe next time.
pinnaclestrengthandfitness.com/images/training_
7-28-05_1_arm_snatch.AVI
Strongman Brad Cardoza doing 1 Arm DB Snatches- 150lbx5
-MAtt
Another variation- more of a hang snatch
pinnaclestrengthandfitness.com/images/training_
7-28-05_1_arm_snatch.AVI
2 hand DB snatch
pinnaclestrengthandfitness.com/images/2_hand_snatch_1.AVI
Enjoy!
-MAtt
[quote]Hawkson101 wrote:
Do you start the dumbell row on the ground, or in the air, around shin level? How much are you bent over? Are you in a DLift position or romanian DLift position?
I am doing triples
Thank You for your time and for your answer
Andrew[/quote]
There are no advantage to do one arm dumbbell snatches over regular barbell. Quite the opposite, you will use less weight, more risk of injury since the dumbbell doesn’t rotate and you don’t work uni-laterally since the snatch is mainly a lower body exercise… Not an arm lift… the only thing you work uni-laterally is the traps actually… lol
I set the DB on the floor (and switch hands) between reps, work in singles through triples.
Fred,
Well firstly, I think what we’re really doing is power dumbell snatches as we aren’t squatting down to catch the dumbell overhead.
In any case, I think the biggest difference between the DB power snatch and the BB power snatch is the learning curve.
It is a LOT easier to teach someone how to do a DB snatch than it is a BB snatch. At least from my own experience.
-MAtt
[quote]FredB4 wrote:
Hawkson101 wrote:
Do you start the dumbell row on the ground, or in the air, around shin level? How much are you bent over? Are you in a DLift position or romanian DLift position?
I am doing triples
Thank You for your time and for your answer
Andrew
There are no advantage to do one arm dumbbell snatches over regular barbell. Quite the opposite, you will use less weight, more risk of injury since the dumbbell doesn’t rotate and you don’t work uni-laterally since the snatch is mainly a lower body exercise… Not an arm lift… the only thing you work uni-laterally is the traps actually… lol
[/quote]
[quote]Matt McGorry wrote:
Fred,
Well firstly, I think what we’re really doing is power dumbell snatches as we aren’t squatting down to catch the dumbell overhead.
In any case, I think the biggest difference between the DB power snatch and the BB power snatch is the learning curve.
It is a LOT easier to teach someone how to do a DB snatch than it is a BB snatch. At least from my own experience.
-MAtt
[/quote]
Hey Matt,
Well actually it depends what weight you use, but with a light enough load you wouldn’t have to drop at all, doing a power or muscle snatch. While you do have to drop with the dumbbell snatch to be able to hold it at arm length.
The learning is a good point, but I think one can achieve to learn the power clean from the hang fairly quickly too, and it would be way more effective as far as power is concerned. JMO.
[quote]FredB4 wrote:
Matt McGorry wrote:
Fred,
Well firstly, I think what we’re really doing is power dumbell snatches as we aren’t squatting down to catch the dumbell overhead.
In any case, I think the biggest difference between the DB power snatch and the BB power snatch is the learning curve.
It is a LOT easier to teach someone how to do a DB snatch than it is a BB snatch. At least from my own experience.
-MAtt
Hey Matt,
Well actually it depends what weight you use, but with a light enough load you wouldn’t have to drop at all, doing a power or muscle snatch. While you do have to drop with the dumbbell snatch to be able to hold it at arm length.
The learning is a good point, but I think one can achieve to learn the power clean from the hang fairly quickly too, and it would be way more effective as far as power is concerned. JMO.[/quote]
Right. The DB snatch could probably be done with a slight dip or without one at all (although the weight used would be significantly less on the latter).
I agree that the hang clean isn’t too hard to learn. But like anything else, they each have their place in a program. Just like BB Benching is generally more effective for developing chest, shoulder, and tricep strength, that doesn’t mean that one would only use BB bench in training. Even when training for performance rather than athletics.
Good points though.
-MAtt
[quote]FredB4 wrote:
Matt McGorry wrote:
Fred,
Well firstly, I think what we’re really doing is power dumbell snatches as we aren’t squatting down to catch the dumbell overhead.
In any case, I think the biggest difference between the DB power snatch and the BB power snatch is the learning curve.
It is a LOT easier to teach someone how to do a DB snatch than it is a BB snatch. At least from my own experience.
-MAtt
Hey Matt,
Well actually it depends what weight you use, but with a light enough load you wouldn’t have to drop at all, doing a power or muscle snatch. While you do have to drop with the dumbbell snatch to be able to hold it at arm length.
The learning is a good point, but I think one can achieve to learn the power clean from the hang fairly quickly too, and it would be way more effective as far as power is concerned. JMO.[/quote]
Matt is correct here. The learning curve is pretty clear/standard: 1-arm db snatch, snatch, and then clean. The clean is harder to learn first because of the catch. I recommend always starting from the hang position.
I find that the dumbbell snatches are easier than one arm barbell snatches, because it takes less grip strength to keep the bar level. Incidentally, I got 138 for 2 yesterday with my left arm, which has me psyched. I start from the floor.
the guy in that vid is dead slow/gets no extension/never unloads the weight. i wouldn’t say he’s someone who’s learned the lift.
…btw is that the guy who lost to bisping on tuf ?..
i don’t really like db snatches. it seems people always go way too heavy, forget about speed and technique, and just muscle the weight up like coach ross. i’m not saying there’s no benefit in that but you might as well just do get-ups or something.
one-arm barbell snatches are a different story though. they practically force you to make a vertically focused pull with enough bar speed to de-load the weight. if you don’t get a proper pull with that lift the bar is all over the place. it’s like the medicus for lifting.
interesting to me is people i’ve shown the one-arm bb snatch to always seem to have better technique and speed with their non-dominant arm. they muscle-up with dominant side but the non-dominant seems easier to let it fly from the pull. it’s like the dominant side has to un-learn rather than learn things sometimes.
Hahaha. You’re right. I’ve got about an extra ten pounds on the bar with my left arm than my right. I’m far more explosive with my non-dominant arm.
[quote]shogunassassin wrote:
I find that the dumbbell snatches are easier than one arm barbell snatches, because it takes less grip strength to keep the bar level. Incidentally, I got 138 for 2 yesterday with my left arm, which has me psyched. I start from the floor.[/quote]
spend a little time with the barbell. the direction of the bar is set from the pull. if you nail the pull you won’t need any more grip strength than for a db. that’s the beauty of the single-arm bb; it gives you feedback about how good your pull was.
It’s not the pull that requires the grip strength- it’s balancing the weight once it’s overhead. The long bar is far harder to control, and requires a lot more grip strength, in my opinion. Thus, I rarely do db snatches, and usually stick with the barbell, as I get more bang for my buck.