[quote]Ryan P. McCarter wrote:
Now you’re repeating yourself, no doubt curled up in the fetal position under your keyboard:
of course Obama can be called a monkey, but in this case, it has overtly racist connotations. Have you seriously never seen “black people = monkeys” slur?
Aha, you have moved past race, and now can freely call a black person a monkey, or a Mexican a wetback, and it’s not racist when you do it?
Thank you sir![/quote]
I wouldn’t call anyone a racist name, as I would not have it done to me. You are living in a fantasy if you think it is me getting slapped around here.
Again if Bush was aloud to call to be compared to a monkey then Obama is aloud to too? Unless you are suggesting that we are not equal.
See you are losing this debate because you are unable to prove your points, you claim you are not racist then say that people are different. Like I said you are living in a fantasy world and very soon you will have to wake up to reality.[/quote]
Once again, you are only “winning” because you refuse to actually address any point that I brought up. The difference is the context. There is a well-known racist pejorative that compares black people to monkeys. Therefore, you know that if you call a black person a monkey, that’s the way it will be interpreted.
But maybe that’s way too farfetched, to think a Tea Partier would even THINK any racist thoughts, especially what with all the blacks and Latinos they’ve got milling around there.
Once again, you are only “winning” because you refuse to actually address any point that I brought up. The difference is the context. There is a well-known racist pejorative that compares black people to monkeys. Therefore, you know that if you call a black person a monkey, that’s the way it will be interpreted.
But maybe that’s way too farfetched, to think a Tea Partier would even THINK any racist thoughts, especially what with all the blacks and Latinos they’ve got milling around there.
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Again as I say if you are allowed to call Bush a monkey then Obama is able to be called the same thing.
I don’t put people into sategories like you do, that is why what you are saying is strange to me. Your way of thinking breeds racism. The front page has someone who has black skin being welcomed with open arms into the tea party. Once the collapse happens they will come to the tea party. You see once the state run propaganda ends and they realize that they where nothing more then slaves to the Democratic party they will finally understand that freedom is the only way.
Your argument has no substance and you have lost this debate.
[quote]Ryan P. McCarter wrote:
It is only possible for me to “lose” the debate if you actually debate me. So far, all you’ve done is say “I am rubber, you are glue…”
I can hardly blame you, however. Libertarians are trained to proceed this way in all debates.[/quote]
Just because you don’t undertand what I am saying does not mean I am not responding to your questions.
Your illegal immigrant argument has been destroyed by Maximus on many occasions.
Him dressed up as an african witchdoctor was making fun of his health care solutions, again nothing racist.
You have proven over and over again to put people of different color in a group, that is the only racist thing I am seeing out of all of this. The only one hanging themselves is you.
So again, you have lost this debate. I think it would be best if you actually attended a Tea Party.
Well then I’m sure you won’t have a problem duplicating his efforts.
Explain how it was not racist?
People of different ethnicities ARE in another group: that of their respective ethnicity. This is not bad, the fact that people are different, it’s just a fact, but when racist Tea Partiers make derogatory comments that obviously refer to those differences, THAT is racist. You STILL have not explained how these signs make sense if they are not racially charged. What about healthcare requires him to look like a stereotypical “savage African?” Why refer to his Kenyan heritage if you don’t like his tax policies? You have done nothing but dance around this question.
Furthermore, NOTHING I have said can hold a candle to your boy Ron Paul’s decade-plus record of racism, which is another question you’ve dodged repeatedly.
Once again, you have to actually say something to win a debate.
Ryan what is your take on the Black Panther Party showing up at voting polls in 2008 to intimidate? A man attempting to walk in to vote heard the remark, “You are about to be ruled by the black man, cracker!”
Ron Paul is not racist, you have discredited your entire argument right here. He is the only one in office that believe we are all free.
I have openly said there is loons in every party. the kenyan statement refers to the fact that some people believe he was born there thus unable to be president. Nothing racist just some people believe that.
him dressed up as a witch doctor is not racist? Unless you are saying being a witch doctor is racist.
You have fallen for this idea that if you critize a “black” man you are racist. But you see those of us who are truely not racist only see a man.
Anyone attempting to intimidate voters (or really anybody in a civilized society) should not be tolerated. Racism does not become OK because one group has been victimized by another.
[quote]Ryan P. McCarter wrote:
Anyone attempting to intimidate voters (or really anybody in a civilized society) should not be tolerated. Racism does not become OK because one group has been victimized by another.[/quote]
I loved all your threads demonizing the black panthers outside the voting station during the elections.
[quote]John S. wrote:
Ron Paul is not racist, you have discredited your entire argument right here. He is the only one in office that believe we are all free.
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Uh-uh, let’s look at the facts, as you like to say.
Dude, just man up and admit it. It doesn’t mean you have to stop being a Libertarian.
Not at all, this is simply how you’re trying to spin it. Yet you STILL have not explained why all these racial references if the policies are the only point of contention. Why not simply say “Obamacare is ill-thought out, and here is why…” or what have you? Why is he a monkey, a witchdoctor, a Kenyan? Again, why wasn’t Bush illegal, when there was much more question surrounding his election than Obama’s? In short, why won’t you answer a question?
[quote]Ryan P. McCarter wrote:
Anyone attempting to intimidate voters (or really anybody in a civilized society) should not be tolerated. Racism does not become OK because one group has been victimized by another.[/quote]
I loved all your threads demonizing the black panthers outside the voting station during the elections.[/quote]
And I loved all yours protesting Bush’s spending.
In any event, if you really want me to start a thread about every single, isolated event that I find objectionable, I will. I thought I was saving time by simply talking about widespread, commonplace events, such as Tea Party racism.
[quote]John S. wrote:
Ron Paul is not racist, you have discredited your entire argument right here. He is the only one in office that believe we are all free.
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Uh-uh, let’s look at the facts, as you like to say.
Dude, just man up and admit it. It doesn’t mean you have to stop being a Libertarian.
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Ron Paul did not right those, all one had to do is listen to the man for 5 minutes to understand he is telling the truth when he says he didn’t right that.
They did the same thing to Rush in this health care debate.
[quote]Ryan P. McCarter wrote:
Anyone attempting to intimidate voters (or really anybody in a civilized society) should not be tolerated. Racism does not become OK because one group has been victimized by another.[/quote]
I loved all your threads demonizing the black panthers outside the voting station during the elections.[/quote]
And I loved all yours protesting Bush’s spending.
In any event, if you really want me to start a thread about every single, isolated event that I find objectionable, I will. I thought I was saving time by simply talking about widespread, commonplace events, such as Tea Party racism.
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You keep talking about something that isn’t there.
Then why on God’s green earth did he allow it to be written in his name for 20 years? MOreover, why would his ghost writer put that in if he did not think that it was at least somewhat reflective of his views? It makes no sense for Paul to hire a guy to write his newsletter, then for the guy to basically hijack it to express his racist views, and for Paul to forget to look at it for 20 years.
Rush engages in slander all the time. Do you expect me to feel sorry for him?
[quote]Ryan P. McCarter wrote:
bunch of nonsense
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Ron Paul has people writing about him all the time, you can’t expect him to know what everyone is saying. And the fact that it took that long for it to show up tells me that it is fake. Just like all the lies people made about Rush.
Then again expecting the democratic(socialist) party to argue the truth is a lot to ask for isn’t it.
[quote]Ryan P. McCarter wrote:
bunch of nonsense
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Ron Paul has people writing about him all the time, you can’t expect him to know what everyone is saying. And the fact that it took that long for it to show up tells me that it is fake. Just like all the lies people made about Rush.
Then again expecting the democratic(socialist) party to argue the truth is a lot to ask for isn’t it.[/quote]
No, I can’t expect him to know what everyone is saying, but I can expect him to know what is in The Ron Paul Political Report.
Furthermore, you’re still dodging questions. For someone who is so sure of his correctness, you don’t have much to say.
Why all the race stuff if his policies are the only point of contention?
Why would the good doctor Paul allow someone to write nasty stuff that he disagrees with (and which could make him extremely politically vulnerable) in his name for 20 years? Why would he only get around to denying it at election time?