Hi I went as high as 1000mg test a week hoping it would come bk but nothing I no I was stupid not having breaks now I’m paying big time. I just don’t have a libido at all I’m just hoping one day it will come bk
My 79 is ECLIA test
What test can u do then to check receptors?
There’s no test available yet to test the sensitivity of androgen receptors, I think it’s at least possible that there will be treatments in the future that regenerates all cells in the body. When I withdrew from Klonopin my pituitary gland couldn’t function without it, TRT help me dodge a bullet.
I no they decrease in sensiitivity don’t respond well. my endo told me that in time they become sensiverty again with time. And I have also been told by someone else they r not responding because my receptors have adjusted to very high levels. I don’t no What is true or wrong saying this is my problem
Did you see my post you need a doc who helps men with aas abuse restart
Yes I saw that mate thanks
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In my opinion, I would stop messing with your dose first of all. Pick a dose 100-150mg per week or whatever you want and stick to it for s good 3 months until you know for sure everything is stable, get blood work done, check your estrogen prolactin progesterone etc, you can try adding an AI to see if that makes a difference, if you do add an AI, I would wait another 6-12 weeks to see how things level out. I wouldn’t be surprised if the tren is to blame, deca is known to do this type of thing and can take a very very long time to get back to normal, tren I could see doing the same thing.
Sure sounds like classic deca dick to me.
I’m with atfit on stablizing the current protocol. I’d take it a step farther drop to 100mg/wk then no AI or anything else is needed. Take nothing else and give your system a chance to clean out.
Then in 6-8 week get new bloods. Without them we are all guessing and wasting our time.
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Thirding this protocol. No more playing around. Get on a stable dose and give it time…like years. There is no quick fix.
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Sounds as though you’ve tried anything I could come up with. Six years is of concern. Please let us know if you come up with a solution. Good luck.
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I highly suggest working on your mental game bro. The mind is powerful. You can manipulate chemicals in your brain, central nervous system and more by just thinking. It’s proven. Should help speed things along.
Ok so do u think in time the libido will return then just could take years? With what private doc said I’ve damaged my receptors is this not true
I don’t know if one can “damage” receptors as opposed to just being out of balance with having too many receptors and losing the effects of feeling test.
I read that a LOT of bodybuilders, later in life, complain about lack of sex drive. But seem to have these great builds. I was one of them but I never used anabolic prior to trt. I tested very low TT and couldn’t understand how I achieved my build with suck low T.
I hypothesize that over time, constant stimuli to your system (working out) adds more receptors. And further, over time, your body starts producing less and less T as it senses all the receptors. It’s a downward cycle. Or maybe I’m all backwards here. But something seems odd that one can bodybuild naturally, get a decent build and grow muscle, yet have such low T
Again, just my unscientific hypothesis as to why I don’t really feel T or have a sex drive even though I’m on Trt.
Another couple weeks on my current protocol of ED shots and if I feel nothing , I will try a high dose (IMO) of T just to see if I can feel ANYTHING testosterone. Maybe some just need ranges much higher than what’s considered normal until they feel something?
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Yea I no mate everyone is different. It’s only numbers. Some people have no libido on trt. Then they up it to 500mg test week get there libido bk. What works for one don’t work another. I did read up about receptors being on super high doeses of test for years. That receptors get use to super high levels they don’t function properly, because they need them levels again to activate the receptors to respond to androgen. Or you still suffer with low t symptoms low libido, ed, sexual thoughts. I no mates down my gym who need 500mg week of test to keep libido up. Perhaps this is something to do with androgen receptor sensiverty.losing the effect of testosterone blinding to AR would mean you need more of the drug to activate the AR
Exactly, which is why ranges should not be the end all of TRT.
I have seen this in weightlifters as well and also had similar thoughts. I think, with years and years of training, you develop the neuromotor pathways and enhance your ability to stimulate muscle. It’s about the repetitions. I’ve seen guys who after years of training decide to take a break from the classic lifts, or just retire from competition. They still train, but not like they did when preparing for a competition. On a whim someday, they decide to see what they can snatch, or clean and jerk. Granted, they don’t approach PRs, but they do hit pretty decent lifts which should require some prep training, and their movements are there. I guess it is like riding a bike. I think it is somewhat like that for bodybuilders. Once the muscle is built, its easier to maintain.
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Some refer to it as “down regulating” the receptors. Some say there is no such thing.
Good post highpull.
I think too that there is a link to low libido and long term training (and not just overtraining)
I often wonder what no training for say, a whole year, would do for my body. I’ve been at it since 1994 now.
I bet you’d come back quickly.
I have also read some drs believe in “testosterone resistence” in that basically they advocate upping test into low Supra levels if you’re not feeling effects.