This is tempting, but I am not convinced a lifter of this level would try for these if it risked the total record. Maybe if he just happens to get them, but IMO shooting for the total should be his goal.
Don’t think a big squat will be a straightforward as you make out. Will be tough to squat like towards 350kg no doubt but maybe he’ll have more in the tank for bench/deads.
This is more what I meant. He should be able to pull 445. I have no idea how much he gets out of wraps though but if its less than 10% he has a shot at the Squat record.
I think if he does take the record, it’s not going to be by leaps and bounds. Wrapped squats and raw squats require significantly different technique, and if you are built to squat in wraps and well practiced in them (as I assume Yury is) you can get well over 100 lbs of carryover. Although I think over 800 lb for Yury is definitely doable, I would not be surprised at all to see him stay sub 800 lbs without wraps.
Yeah but then what about knee sleeves? Since SBD came on the market people have been trying to get the most carryover from their sleeves and buying several sizes too small. It won’t help as much as wraps, but it’s the same idea. The difference is that you can’t tell by looking who is wearing super tight sleeves and who isn’t, but it’s enough of an issue that in IPF meets they can make you pull them down and back up just to show you can do it without assistance.
Completely agree. Even with my normal fitting SBDs I think you get a smidge. I am totally ok with IPF (or any other Feds) making you pull them down and back up or what ever other test they want to do.
Yeah at one time I figured I was getting about 10-15lbs out of mine. I don’t think any of the sleeves made before those like Rehband had any sort of carryover and they were just as good at keeping the knees warm, only thing is they wore out faster. I had a grey pair.
There was a guy who posted on here a while back that made a video of his experiment with super tight sleeves (SBD I think it was), he used a fish scale to measure how much resistance they gave. If I remember correctly it was 20lbs per leg, which is comparable to knee wraps. The main difference is that while both will make your legs numb, it’s much less convenient to put on and take off sleeves between attempts than with wraps (which isn’t exactly convenient to start with).
I would love to see that experiment, very cool. I have to imagine you get a lot more than that out of wraps though…just realized I could sort of check this.
Marianna gets 30kg out of hers which is over 10%. Her best Wrapped is 260kg vs 230kg Raw. OK Wow she has competed in both wraps and raw 5 each going back to 2017 BOB4 (and it keeps going like that).
Kevin Oak has Squatted 390kg both ways. His Wraps was at 99kg vs 109kg Raw and Wraps was in 2016 and he switched over to raw over the next couple years. His most recent Raw Squat after that was 367.5 so 22.5kg boost and same body weight.
Daniel Bell bests are 482.5 and 455. Back to back comps same weight class but he was ~9kg heavier in Wraps.
OK Last one Dan Green is 355.5 to 385 he was 9kg heavier in wraps but hit 380 wrapped at same weight.
I checked a few others (CC Ingram, Stacy Burr, Stefi Cohen) but it seems their squat blew up as they switched to wraps so it skews the difference. Like they would have gained 30kg on their Raw Squats but switched to wraps so got 50.
This weekend we will see how much Yury gets out of them.
It seems regardless of weight class people are getting between 20-30kg for wraps. That kind of makes sense because more weight wont make the wraps more elastic.
It’s in a thread on this forum about knee sleeves if you want to look for it. Wraps will definitely give you more carryover and would be less trouble. Actually the story is that at IPF worlds when SBDs first came out apparently some of the Russian lifters (Belkin maybe?) had a group of coaches pulling on a new set of sleeves for each attempt using plastic bags (like for a bench shirt) and due to that they made a rule that you have to put the sleeves on yourself.
For some reason he doesn’t get a whole lot out of his wraps, maybe something to do with his squatting style. Andrew Herbert on the other hand is one guy who gets a ton out of wraps, 810 vs. 915 and a high 942 at record breakers.
I thought the meet was in September. What’s happening this weekend?
If you’ve watched the JTS vid about hip vs quad relative weakness squatting styles maybe Oak is relatively weak glutes so they are still a limiting factor in sleeves or wraps
I’m not really sure, some people say that you get more out of wraps with a quad-dominant squat and others say the opposite. I really don’t have an explanation.
I wouldn’t call it weak glutes, more like strong as fuck quads
I actually sold her my old safety squat bar (I had just upgraded to an EliteFTS SS Yoke Bar) recently so she could still squat due to that injury. She was very nice. I’m glad to see that she’s planning on competing soon!
