[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]edwardhuntington wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]polo77j wrote:
[quote]edwardhuntington wrote:
[quote]jskrabac wrote:
Found this great post on a friend of mine’s fat loss blog. It’s so very true.
To summarize in case you don’t feel like reading it, it’s basically saying that it’s ass-backwards that people who make any kind of positive physique transformation are more often criticized by their peers than encouraged…i.e “you have a disorder,” “you need to chill out with the exericise,” etc…
So when’s the last time you heard, “you don’t need to workout, you already look fine” or some retarded variation of it? And how fat/out of shape was the person who said it? [/quote]
Usually the people that criticize and demean people for making great body transformations are the same people that worship crap like P90X and Jillian Michaels. Why does ridiculous and dangerous training inspire people when legitimate training and real-world transformations have the opposite effect?[/quote]
Really? So, people losing weight and exercising in a different manner than you constitutes ridiculous and dangerous and can not be considered real-world body transformation? You make no sense chief. Enough people have had positive results using both these methods to attain the goals they seek to validate that it DOES work.
Get your head out of your ass and stop attacking things that happen to be different than what you do.
This shit always drives me crazy. Whaaaa P90X is crap … Whaaaa Biggest Loser is bs … Whaaa Crossfit is a cult
STFU and do you man. There are different goals and different life styles in this world. Shit even in the weight lifting game there are different ways of attaining the same goal that are equally efficient … [/quote]
I was about to say the same thing. If you haven’t tried the plyo P90X workout give it a try and then comment. That shit is rough. [/quote]
I’d love to try the “plyo” workout… except for the fact that it isn’t actually a plyo workout. Jumping around like a jackass for an hour does not constitute plyometric training. The last time I checked, a plyo workout is not supposed to be metabolically taxing. It is supposed to train you to maximize the efficiency of the stretch-shortening cycle. Who said anything about cross-fit, anyway? I don’t have a problem with cross-fit, only the 95% of people who have no business training with that style because they haven’t even mastered the basics of squatting and deadlifting. And how can you defend Jillian Michaels or anything that goes on on that show? It’s disgustingly misleading bullshit. Do you need me to post the 1000 articles written by people like Mike Boyle and Chris Mohr and Coach Dos about the subject, or do you just want me to post her butchering a kettlebell “instruction” DVD? [/quote]
Okay if it doesn’t fit the text book or your definition of a plyo workout then I guess it has no merit what so ever right? If I was a pro athlete would I do the p90x plyo workout? No. If I am in my mid 20’s and want to stay in shape while trying to get bigger and stronger will I do the cardiovascular jumping p90x workout? Yes. My point is that not only is the workout hard, but it is useful when trying to lose or maintain lean body mass.
As far as the other crap goes…if it helps fat people lose weight I say go for it. You can’t seriously tell me no one has benefited from a Jillian Micahael’s workout. If she sucked that bad people wouldn’t waste their money. Same with a guy like Richard Simmons. Would he help most of the people on this site? Probably not, but can he help some demographic? Yes. [/quote]
No one has benefited from a Jillian Michael’s workout. Except maybe if they use the video for whacking ammo…if they’re into chicks that look like men.
On a more serious note, I put the Tony Horton, Jillian Michaels, Richard Simmons dvds in the same league as the treadmill or stationary bike that ends up in the back of a closet or as a coat rack after some time (i.e. SOME people benefit if they keep it up, but most lose interest after little time). These people are celebrities selling products of little substance. They make money off of low retention rates, because that means there are STILL just as many fat people out there looking for the next trendy fat loss dvd.
I’ve seen dozens of facebook status updates about “woohoo! starting p90x,” but never any positive follow ups. Yet EVERYONE of them SWEARS the shit works…even though they have never personally known anyone who truly got “ripped” from it, or finished it themselves! The reason this shit DOES WORK for people who actually stick with it, is because it’s marketed to out of shape people with little to no training experience. Of course it will work for them! Anything would! That’s the magic of newbie gains. So why not overlook the celebrity gimmicks and all the commerical hype, and teach those dedicated enough a solid foundation…something that will CONTINUE to work after newbie gains are long gone?