How to kill a good thread.
You’ve got it down to a fine art, One Trick…
Provide evidence or admit that you’re spreading bullshit
jeez this took a turn;)
Amazing at all the venom against cardiovascular conditioning! Even non-supportive anecdotal evidence to counter commonly known facts related to anatomy & physiology of slow twitch muscle fibers. Stupidity is genetic, ignorance is bliss! Rudeness, anger, hostility, time to take your leave! I am sure the custodian (identified by always speaking for everyone while misusing the word “we”) will retort with the usual custodial jargon.
However, I do appreciate Bill DeSimone’s work on congruent exercise.
We all appreciate Bill’s work. What we don’t appreciate are your continuous, boring, asinine attempts to shoehorn the topic of cardio into every thread you can, however tenuous the link.
Either you are incredibly thick skinned to be able to ignore both the subtle and not so subtle requests for you to stop doing it ( we’ve got your point…we got it a looooong time ago) or you’re an incredibly slow learner.
Well if it’s done to get a rise, then that is classic troll like behaviour surely? ![]()
Was brought to my attention that the above video didn’t fill the screen on a monitor or phone when turned sideways. Whoops, clicked the wrong button on Clipchamp sizing. Fixed it, so for your full screen glory…https://youtu.be/qLDhpxAyiG8
The four rotator cuff muscles are the supraspinatus, infraspinatus, subscapularis, and teres minor
All of the rotator cuff muscles are of mixed fiber type composition. As a whole, 44% of rotator cuff fibers labeled positively for slow MHC (Myosin Heavy Chain) with slow MHC content of 54% in supraspinatus, 41% in infraspinatus, 49% in teres minor, 38% in subscapularis, and 40% in teres major
What are we to do with this info? I feel like this is lacking a point.
Oh you just had to ask…![]()
Even Stevie Wonder could see where this one was going…
The clue is right there…slow twitch muscle fibres? Come on Dave…use your noggin’
It was a platform for ol’ One Trick to launch the next phase of his latest cardio rant…
Did you know the spaceships on the Boston cover are upside down guitars? Saw Boston in 1976 at Rutgers. If the thread is going to derail its going all the way off;)
Hard to believe, but that guitar- rotator cuff thread in the link is just as insane as any over here.
I have read reports of the upper trapezius muscle causing impingement if overdeveloped. The middle trapezius is worked well with rows, and various pulldowns types without impingement reported. What issues exist with impingement due to shrugging movements?
Thanks in advance
Marc
About time those reports caught up to me;)
In the video I explained how overdeveloping the traps and practicing shrugging throws off scapulohumeral rhythm and leads to impingment.
Going way back, Joseph Horrigan in the October 1995 Iron Man wrote an article “Shrug Alternatives” in which he described issues with shrugs and the acromioclavicular (AC) joint. Not impingement, but I prefer to avoid any kind of preventable shoulder pain from my exercise selection.
I certainly could not shrug without pain when I had an AC joint injury from jiu jitsu 2 years ago. Couldn’t Really deadlift heavy either. Back to 100% now but I usually prefer a mid height cable shrug with a wide grip where I squeeze a bit more back rather than just up. Regular shrugs don’t hurt anymore, but I don’t feel as though I get as much total trap development from them.
My opinion only, but I think shrugs got too much emphasis in the late 70s/ 80s, between Arnold’s most muscular pose and Jones selling “neck and shoulder” stations.
Shrug Risks and Bigger Traps -
another exercise to be cautious of: Heavy Shrugs
Thanks.
I have eliminated all overhead presses, and i have amended my decline press form so as to keep my hand in my periphery vision. I have copied the lat pulls. I have decreased my Nautilus pullover range of movement. I have no Shoulder Pain currently.
awesome thread
Another great article from Horrigan. I had long since checked out of current muscle magazines by 2011 so I missed that. I’m glad I’d saved the ones from the 90s.

