I love how people who have never done cocaine love to assume how it works or makes someone act.
No one cares now that you’re trying to “expose” Arnold. It’s no longer edgy. Arnold has turned into a fairly normal old man (a very rich one mind you). Did right by his son he had with his maid, is devoted to making an impact on the climate crisis and hanging with his mini-horse and donkey at his home. There’s nothing to “expose” anyone will care about except for people that never liked him. So good luck getting that film picked up.
Clearly, you don’t read so well…I never said it was ME. This is first hand from someone there, privy to what was going on. It isn’t ME who made the film. I just helped to contribute, as per request. Lastly, it isn’t a matter of whether I like or dislike Arnold, or anyone else for that matter. It’s about revealing the truth and background behind the whole contest. Which is far deeper and sinister than anyone realizes. That is fact!
Also a fact, is people are still discussing this “contest”, 41 years later, which shows it still doesn’t sit well with the masses. So no luck needed.
=== Scott==
I’ll be interested to see if anything we haven’t heard already really comes out. I have a pretty good imagination so there’s not much that could surprise me about the goings on in the Weider and bodybuilding world. It’s not to hard to read between the lines to figure there’s some pretty shaky stuff going on in and around those contests.
Scott
To be more accurate, some people who were very interested in 1980’s era bodybuilding are still talking about it. That, I think, is a pretty small group.
Most people know of Arnold as a (fading) movie star and (retired) politician. They might vaguely be aware that he started out as a bodybuilder. When it comes to the masses, I doubt that you’d find many who actually know that the 1980 contest results were controversial; of those, even fewer would actually care about the outcome. Seems like long odds that this is a documentary topic that would draw broad interest. Time will tell, of course…
Scott…all I can say is had Arnold been accountable for what he was really about, his movie days and Governorship NEVER would have happened. But money and influence goes a long way.
And if there’s any truth to these new revelations about Arnold in this new movie or whatever it is you can be sure Arnold’s money and press core will stifle that from ever seeing the light of day.Arnold is a very smart man, smarter and wealthier than the Warren Commision, this stuff , if it exists , will never be seen.
Scott
Oh there’s proof. Like I said, the prison scene in Pumping Iron is part of the proof. So much has been hidden for so long, it’s about time the truth is, finally, revealed.
When he ran for Governor, there would have been lots of Democrats doing opposition research, looking for dirt to discredit him. Somehow, he survived that kind of vetting.
That said, I’ve seen a number of stories over the years about the shadier side of Arnold. For whatever reason, those stories just never seemed to gain enough traction to damage him. Just google “An Encyclopedia of Every Other Awful Thing Arnold Schwartzenegger Has Done”. That should take you to a Gawker article from 10 years ago which has quite a few “shocking” revelations. (Spoiler Alert: None involved the fixing of the 1980 Olympia contest).
Like I said, there’s been a monumental cover up, others taking the fall so Arnold could advance himself and live the life he’s lived. If not for that, he would be seen in a completely different light, and the world would know what he’s all about.
More is known here in Australia, and why the '80 Mr Olympia was held here. Once the documentary comes all, everything will make sense, and everyone will see the ordeal for what it really was.
So, just to be clear: This documentary deals specifically with the 1980 Olympia contest, and the “cover up” which is exposed involves the details of how contest was rigged and why?
A single judge change could have no bearing on the end result of the final posedown. Arnold won 5 to 2.
But what bothers me most about part of this discussion is the attack on Arnold. Isn’t this thread about the integrity of the judging. Arnold wasn’t one of the judges. Did Arnold pick the judging panel?
This reminds me of a rather small open contest I did in Lake City, FL. I won that show and the guy that came in 2nd started yelling at me that he should have won. I flatly told him that I didn’t pick me to win. And that you need to complain to the 7 judges. But he continued to complain to me. I walked away as he continued to jabber away.
How about we keep this about the fairness of the contest and not the character of the various competitors?
The conspiracy theorist that I am leads me to believe Arnold, Franco, Weider conspired with the judges to fix this contest and the 81 contest to promote the Conan the Barbarian movie
an action film with 2 Mr olympias, one the main star and the other as a small role
No firm release date yet, but hopefully not too far away once it’s polished a bit.
The documentary covers how the farce started and how it was carried out. It’s in-depth, so there’s no disparity what transpired.
One judge wouldn’t add up to a stacked card. That’s the point. The “contest” was angled towards one, and only one, outcome. Blind Freddy could see Arnold wasn’t the true winner.
Pre-release, all I can say is someone took a HEAVY fall for Arnold’s advancement. The prison scene from Pumping Iron plays a crucial part (as stated)…once the context is known.
The first time I saw that prison scene many years ago I knew what that ment, “come over here and I’ll give you a kiss”. I’ve read tons of stuff about Arnold’s escapades and transgressions so I’m betting nothing this documentary reveals will most likely surprise me. Arnold was a loose cannon and did whatever he wanted. Short of having someone killed I can’t think of anything he could have done to rig that contest that many of us haven’t already thought of.
Scott
No one cares about the 1980 Olympia except Mentzer fan boys that are still salty feeling he was robbed. Anyone that follows modern bodybuilding is more interested in a couple of Dorian’s contests towards the end of this career that look gifted. So this is all very old drama.
And like someone said if there was real dirt on Arnold the opposition research when he ran for CA Governor would have got it. There’s no shocking Arnold revelations that will shatter the world and bring him down. And even then I ask what does the director have to gain from all this? Arnold’s actually doing good in the world these days for the climate crisis and his after school programsu8. He’s paid for his sins.
The worst claim I’ve seen about him was in the Muscle Smoke and Mirrors book where apparently he might have been driving stolen cars down to a chop shop in southern CA when he first arrive in the US. Again that was 50 years ago, so who cares? I did stuff 10 years ago I’m not proud of and never would today.
While wasting my time looking up some of this Arnold stuff I read where he was a millionaire before he ever did Pumping Iron doing some kind of brick laying scam or something? I’d like to know more about that.
Scott