I was thinking of going down to Palm Harbor and try out a workout. Whats it like $80 a workout for the 6 weeks after that?
I was told 400 a month for two workouts a week
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Good God! Time to refinance the kids!
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I am 3 hours away in stuart…not worth it for me, lol
About 45 mins for me. Just afraid of liking it!
I liked it
It’s a car payment, 
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Curious if the load is incremental enough for very weak beginners. For example, if someone is using 20lbs on a machine, and it only increments in 10lb increments, moving to 30 ain’t really workable.
Are all workouts “coached” at these centers or after a few can someone catch on and work it themselves?
Is the ROM adjustable for someone with limitations?
I know it is 3-1-5, but on what would be a last rep, can this be slowed to allow someone to further accentuate the negative?
Anyone ever max a machine out?
They are coached at every workout, by appointment only…i think an athlete maxed out the leg press…on the last rep they told me to try to accentuate negative longer…i will say that I was feeling it for a few days after
With X Force in mind I was thinking about trying a home version of X Force where I load 40 % more weight on say my Nautilus lateral machine ,my son helps me up on the concentric and I lower it myself. Anyone here ever try that ?
Scott
My brother and I have done similar with overhead Press machine, leg Extension, leg Curl, and pulldown, even bench press. It’s definitely a workout for the training partner! I see that as the main drawback.
For sure the partner has a rough time, I just figured it would be interesting to see if it would work for a few workouts ? I think the big draw back if it did work would be long recovery times. I don’t like that once a week stuff.
Scott
I don’t either. The recovery really wasn’t too Bad when we did a few negatives only workouts earlier this year, and it was a fun way to mix things up. Just limit yourself to like 6 exercises or so
Not that per se but I did sometimes load up as normal and then get a ‘helper’ to push down on the bar at curls, or leg curls, tug on me during the eccentric of a chin, dip, etc. Not exactly X Force more Brute Force! 
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Not if you pay cash for your vehicles!
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So I took a break from 30 10 30 and yesterday I did a home version of X Force and I added about 40% more to my push machines, double chest, lateral machine, tricep extension and tricep pushdown and had my son stand there and assist me just enough to get the concentric up and then he let go and I take it down for about 8 reps. It really felt heavy and exhausting compared to 30 10 30. Anyway I wanted to see how I’d feel the next day compared to 30 10 30 and I can’t feel any difference so far? I thought for sure I’d be getting sore? Maybe it takes two days to feel it?
Scott
Scott,
I wouldn’t expect any unusual soreness from strictly heavy negatives - since you’ve already made a negative inroading with 30-10-30. Have you considered altering the stimulus in another way?
I would assume a regular 3-5 sec pos / 3-5 sec cadence (“normal” HIT procedure) would come as a shock to your system after a period of 30-10-30. I combined these cadences/regimes before - and I always had trouble combining 30-10-30 with the regular cadence as the regular felt too heavy for some reason. Most likely a matter of movement against adaptation. Why don’t you try this for one workout? With that said, I would move closer to failure, maybe one rep left in the tank for NTF protocol.
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I’m going to do one more home X force workout, pull, just to give both sides a fair shot. It’s just to much hastle having to have my son helping even it my arms grew an inch, ha ha. I think next I’m going to try some stage reps to failure. I’ve been wanting to try those for some time.
Scott
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At this point it’s really more about what I really like doing the most . It’s not like my lats are suddenly going to pop out like Boyer Coes when I hit on the perfect routine , ha ha !! All I really care now is that I want to keep consistently working out regardless of what I’m doing, no taking off a few weeks .
Scott
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What is the approximate cost of an X-Force machine?
If they vary much, take the Lat Back Pull as an example.
I might be willing to go in half with the gym. I’d like to have an idea of how much money it might be.