Androstenedione cannot be sold in my country, but can be consume if imported for personal use.
My question= what do you think about this ph ? Does it work, in order to gain mass or strenght ?
Or is it, as some studies tell, useless ?
Worthless shit. You’d be better off with a high quality supplement stack…or real steroids.
I’ll admit that I used it about 5 years ago. But since it has been banned why would you mess with it. They still produce sides and the results don’t really compare to real AAS.
I’d use an AI with it, otherwise it’s probably going to be converted to a hefty amount of estrogen.
I’ve ran a cycle of it. Either my shit was expired or andro is crap. It was a waste of money, supplements, Nolva, and specially my time. Get real gear or a clone (Superdrol, Haladrol 50, etc). Them sum bitches put weight on me. My two centavos.
I used it back when i used to play football…yeah i know not smart. but strenght gains were off the chain! of course i ate like a monster tho too.
[quote]2thepain wrote:
I’ll admit that I used it about 5 years ago. But since it has been banned why would you mess with it. They still produce sides and the results don’t really compare to real AAS.[/quote]
Hey I used several back in the day, and there was one and only one that was the real fucking deal.
That was the original OSMO 50. That was real shit, and it kicked some damn fine ass. It was the first of the real designer steroids basicly. OSMO ran a few others, but that first german formula was the single best PH of all time if you ask me. It was potent and safe as long as it was treated like a real oral AAS, which in fact it was.
All of the other crap that tried to get on the andro train after OSMO had so much success, were like JuiceJD said, utter crap. Some might have produced some small gains, but nothing like the andro 50 by OSMO.
[quote]InTheZone wrote:
2thepain wrote:
I’ll admit that I used it about 5 years ago. But since it has been banned why would you mess with it. They still produce sides and the results don’t really compare to real AAS.
Hey I used several back in the day, and there was one and only one that was the real fucking deal.
That was the original OSMO 50. That was real shit, and it kicked some damn fine ass. It was the first of the real designer steroids basicly. OSMO ran a few others, but that first german formula was the single best PH of all time if you ask me. It was potent and safe as long as it was treated like a real oral AAS, which in fact it was.
All of the other crap that tried to get on the andro train after OSMO had so much success, were like JuiceJD said, utter crap. Some might have produced some small gains, but nothing like the andro 50 by OSMO.
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I used the old ergopharm 1-AD. I never heard of the andro 50 by OSMO.
andro 50? haladrol 50 maybe but andro 50 doenst ring a bell.
[quote]Growing_Boy wrote:
andro 50? haladrol 50 maybe but andro 50 doenst ring a bell. [/quote]
No buddy, there was no halodrol 50 back when they first came out. But for the newer shit I will say that is a decent product for sure.
We are talking way back when they first came out, like around 1997 or so.
The company was top tier and blew everyone else away. Unfortunately they were the first to get banned I believe. Probably because they were very potent. I can remember popping up to what, 4 of them, topping off at 200mg before workouts and the strength gains were unreal and immediate.
The size gains came on quick too akin to any of the more powerful oral steroids, though not as water retaining as dbol or anadrol. But the strength was just as potent.
[quote]2thepain wrote:
InTheZone wrote:
2thepain wrote:
I’ll admit that I used it about 5 years ago. But since it has been banned why would you mess with it. They still produce sides and the results don’t really compare to real AAS.
Hey I used several back in the day, and there was one and only one that was the real fucking deal.
That was the original OSMO 50. That was real shit, and it kicked some damn fine ass. It was the first of the real designer steroids basicly. OSMO ran a few others, but that first german formula was the single best PH of all time if you ask me. It was potent and safe as long as it was treated like a real oral AAS, which in fact it was.
All of the other crap that tried to get on the andro train after OSMO had so much success, were like JuiceJD said, utter crap. Some might have produced some small gains, but nothing like the andro 50 by OSMO.
I used the old ergopharm 1-AD. I never heard of the andro 50 by OSMO.[/quote]
Yeah it was way before ergo’s product came out too 2the.
That one got decent reviews from some guys I knew, but yeah OSMO had a lot of respect from everyone I knew. It was the first, and it was killer. OSMO was a company based out of Palm Springs in California, and the product was called Androstene 50, and Androstene 100. OSMO worked in partnership with Patrick Arnold on the product.
It was of course synthesized to testosterone.
The fucker kicked the shit out of everything else, including since then.
Ok after digging around a bit, I found this little ditty for you guys that don’t know about Pat and OSMO’s product.
It looks like a guy in a forum talking about the “new” product and how he’s almost thinking it might kick ass, since it has Patrick Arnold working with OSMO.
Posted by S3 on January 18, 1997 at 22:54:05:
In Reply to: Re: To S3 - Re: Androstene posted by The Tower on January 18, 1997 at 12:28:55:
: : : S3, Interested in knowing you source for Androstene. With current FDA regulations,
: : : it may very well be possible for someone to derive a “supplement” that really works.
: : : Currently we have things like DHEA and Melatonin which are both powerful hormones
: : : being sold over the counter, so why not ? I personally cannot see the difference between selling DHEA over the counter and Testosterone.
: : : If Androstene has someone with Patrick Arnold’s reputation is working
: : : on it, hell I wouldn’t mind giving it a try. I would speculate however that if it did
: : : have a bodybuilding benefit and was hormonally based then the FDA will shut it
: : : down pretty quick.
: : : I would go on to say that if DHEA was ever proven to be of real benefit to
: : : bodybuilders (I am not saying it is, the jury is still way out on that) the same thing
: : : would occur, so you would expect suppliers of that non-prescription “Drug” to
: : : downplay any findings that area.
: : The distributor working with Pat on Androstene is OSMO
: : in San Francisco. 415-513-5528 talk to Stan- great guy.
: : The literature says that 50 mg causes a near 200% rise
: : in test levels within 90 minutes, with 100 mg nearly tripling
: : test levels. The androstene is converted to test by your liver,
: : not your testes, so there is potential for suppression of
: : your natural test output. OSMO will tell you that you should
: : only take it on lifting days about two hours before workout,
: : 'so that the spike in test will fire you up, but so as not
: : to risk shutdown and testicular atrophy (also more cost
: : effective at $60 per bottle) . In an e-mail which
: : Pat was kind enough to take the time to respond to, he
: : informed me that you can take it throughout the day
: : to maintain consistently elevated test levels, but that
: : you could experience similar side effects to taking
: : test in that case. I’m going to take throughout the day
: : for a couple of weeks, but if I see any adverse side effects
: : have some Ipriflavone standing by to counter the aromatization,
: : which Pat tells me should even further spike my test levels
: : by fooling the axis into jumpstarting the testes, which in turn
: : will supplement the test my liver’s turning the Androstene
: : into.
: : As I said in a previous post, I have not used any AS,
: : in over ten years, so the results should be interesting.
: : I’ll keep everyone appraised of my progress.
Well guess what?
The stuff did end up kicking serious ass on the bodybuilding front, and sure enough, OSMO took one on the chin from the powers that be in no time at all. I think I got it for only around a little over a year to 2 maybe, and it was over for the original formulas of Androstene 50 and it’s brother Androstene 100.
They then went to something called Androdiol and others, none of which were even close to the first product.
Well, now you got a little more info on it guys.
ToneBone
IntheZone, did the gains dissappear just as quickly? Wow that sounds awesome. I was 9 when it came out so pardon my ignorance.
[quote]Growing_Boy wrote:
IntheZone, did the gains dissappear just as quickly? Wow that sounds awesome. I was 9 when it came out so pardon my ignorance. [/quote]
Ha, haa…that’s ok, I figured, it’s been a long while now.
Back then, not as many people as today would be “ready” to give it a go. To that point there had been nothing like it yet that actually worked, and so there was a great deal of skepticism concerning all supps in general.
I just happened to know this Russian beast of a guy who had a health/vitamin shop and he knew me and my buddy were fairly hardcore, and he’d “talk shop” about all the difft and innovative stuff coming out, and one day he just showed the stuff to us, and told me it was a German formula that was one of a kind w/Patrick Arnold at the helm yada,yada, and I was like, “We’ll take two.” It was great stuff for about a year. Great workouts at that time and I was going nuts on eca cycles and such, lol. Anyway, yep those were the days.
Glad to have a chance to talk about that particular supp.