Your Biotest Experiences

HOT-ROX- Used it when it first came out, then Red Bands, and now Maximum Strength HOT-ROX. Initially, it allowed me to basically gorge without putting on any additional fat. I’m using it now for fat loss purposes, and it definitely helps. It’s also great at supressing my appetitie.

Metabolic Drive Protein- awesome stuff, I use between 2-4 scoops per day.

Surge- The difference in recovery from years of using no Post or Peri workout shake has been HUGE. This is a must have.

ZMA- 3 caps of this stuff plus melatonin is awesome. I get very restful sleep.

Power Drive- Good stuff, use it every now and then, but not every workout.

Alpha Male- It’s not going to instantly slap 20 pounds of LBM on you, but man, you know when you’re on it. To any guy going on their honeymoon, get this stuff, like 5 minutes ago.

Spike- Definitely gets you amped up. I never felt like I responded as well as some others have to this, but that doesn’t mean it’s not a high quality product.

Never got into the PH/PS, but I’m looking forward to trying Carbolin 19 and Anaconda. I hope Anaconda is something that you can use simultaneously with Carbolin 19 or Max Strength HOT-ROX.

-Greg

[quote]samuelm704 wrote:
It has been a long time since I posted but I do have experience with the Biotest line of supps.

All of Biotest supps that I have taken have worked as planned WHEN you take them right and WHEN you take them long enough. It takes time for your system to react to the changes the supps are making happen.

To say that something does not work and you only took it for 1 week or a few days, why even bother taking it at all if you were not going to committ to the time.

MAG-10 - the best supp I have ever taken. Strength goes up, metabolism increases, have to eat big just to keep up. Taken as recommended - ain’t screwing up my boys.

HOT-ROX - it works as long as you are excercising and eating right. I do “heat up” and do see the lack of strength loss when in a cutting phase. Taken as recommened.

M - I guess this works, I find it hard to see any actual physical results. Just hoping it helps when coming off a MAG-10 cycle. I typically take 4 caps when first cycling off then drop down to the recommended 3.

RED KAT - worked for what it did - Alpha Male has replaced it and is much better.

Alpha Male - works, can definatly feel the difference when coming off a MAG-10 cycle, and if I stay on it long enough ramps up the horniness factor.
Taken as recommened.

Spike - I am not a coffee drinker and Spike does its job just perfect. I have a high tolerence for “wake-up” supps but I can’t take extra Spike, stick to the rules with this one. And I only take it on work days, don’t need it when I can sleep in.

ZMA - keeps me moving after the work outs. Really helps keep the soreness down and I recover a lot quicker. I alwasy take 4 caps.

Carbolin 19 - My new favorite friend. I have just recently kept this mix and do I feel a difference, I am ‘heated’ most of the time, I do not see any muscle loss when the diet is light - for me lately that has been key. Adding this has helped me regain my strength quicker after my unexcusable gym absence. Taking as recommened.

Metabolic Drive and Surge - what else is there to say - the best is the best.

Power Drive - didn’t like the way the old formula made me feel, Haven’t tried the new formula.

Give them time to work and they work. Take it for a week and expect to see big results, don’t and give up - save your money and take a sugar pill instead.[/quote]

Not sure about the ZMA, but I wouldn’t take 4 caps of M. Cy has said numerous times that Vitex must be taken in the exact dosage they recommend or it could have the opposite effect.

I’m not a big fan of Biotest supps aside from the ZMA and Protein Products. The “Testosterone” T-shirt is pretty cool too.

[quote]edgecrusher wrote:
I’m not a big fan of Biotest supps aside from the ZMA and Protein Products. The “Testosterone” T-shirt is pretty cool too.[/quote]

Would you care to elaborate? Just curious as to why.

My experience with Biotest products is limited by my wallet and my time training – I’ve been serious only for about four months, and haven’t delved into the more ‘exotic’ supplements yet.

I initially bought Spike to help in school, kinda as a study aid. As a full-courseloaded student, I find Spike to be extremely beneficial: I frequently take it early in the morning before a long day of classes, and it helps my focus immensely. I find staying on-task is much easier, and I can go for longer periods without taking a ‘break’.
Spike transfers to workouts just as well: it’s great for focus on lifting, and I find that I get ‘in the zone’ a lot easier when I’m running if I’ve taken it.

Power Drive, I’ve also taken on occasion, and have found it to be similar to Spike, but with a different onset. I always get a very mild headache whenever I take Power Drive, and the duration of use is less (usually 1.5ish hours, rather than 5-6 for Spike) … It helps, again, with focus and drive (exactly as advertised), but the duration is shorter, and I find, more intense.

I’m planning on ordering some Metabolic Drive protein powder relatively shortly, and also some Surge to incorporate into my PWO and daily nutrition, plus I’ve read great things. Also looking at starting a cycle of HOT-ROX (I’m going on a cruise in March and want to get relatively ‘ripped’ in time).

Grow!/Metabolic Drive–delicious
Surge–delicious
Both of these sate me; can’t give you statistics on LBM gained.

Power Drive–makes me alert and workout-ready. Definitely don’t like facing a workout without this!

Alpha Male–The boost to libido is apparent with this. But then, I’m 46. TMMV. (Your Mileage May Vary)

Most of my Biotest orders these days are to make sure I’m stocked with these 4.


I enjoy Spike and RED KAT.

I LOVED the MAG-10. But, my MAG-10 days are done. Actually, I have 6 bottles of MAG-10 LEGACY left if someone wants to trade for Carbolin 19.

Why are you getting rid of MAG-10 if you loved it?

how exactly did MAG-10 work? Id love to know how a supplement adds pounds to anyone… . theres no calories in MAG-10 right?

I don’t know that MAG-10 actually added pounds to anyone, but this is my understanding.

You use MAG-10 when you go on a bulking cycle. The substances were precursor chemicals to hormones that promote anabolic effects, and once they were treated by the body became those chemicals. In a sense they acted like steroids because after the body deals with them they actually become testosterone…

Someone chime in here if that is right/wrong.

[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
I don’t know that MAG-10 actually added pounds to anyone, but this is my understanding.

You use MAG-10 when you go on a bulking cycle. The substances were precursor chemicals to hormones that promote anabolic effects, and once they were treated by the body became those chemicals. In a sense they acted like steroids because after the body deals with them they actually become testosterone…

Someone chime in here if that is right/wrong.[/quote]
so basically what they are “supposed” to do is effect partitioning? so that roughly if you put on 10lbs those 10lbs are muscle and not 6 muscle 4 fat or whatever?

[quote]calvinist wrote:
I LOVED the MAG-10. But, my MAG-10 days are done. Actually, I have 6 bottles of MAG-10 LEGACY left if someone wants to trade for Carbolin 19. [/quote]

Ummm…dude, before you get ripped off, you can E-bay or PM someone here and sell a bottle of MAG-10 Legacy for a hell of alot more than Carbolin 19 costs. Sell the MAG-10 and just buy Carbolin 19.

[quote]Sifu wrote:
I gained 25 pounds in two weeks with MAG-10 Legacy formula. Not bad for a 41 year old.
[/quote]

We’re all just going to let this go?

Dude, I went from 135 pounds to 178 pounds during my first SERVING on MAG-10, ALL muscle. I was too scared to take the night time serving.

[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
Methoxy-7, Alpha Male, Carbolin 19, RED KAT are all supps I am considering trying. Anyone have any stories?[/quote]

It just so happens that I do have a story about my Alpha Male use. :wink:

http://www.T-Nation.com/findArticle.do?article=05-157-diet

[quote]BIGRAGOO wrote:
edgecrusher wrote:
I’m not a big fan of Biotest supps aside from the ZMA and Protein Products. The “Testosterone” T-shirt is pretty cool too.

Would you care to elaborate? Just curious as to why. [/quote]

You should have a PM from me. This is a Biotest website, so I won’t get into specifics here. Also, props to Biotest and the Mods for allowing opinions other than raving reviews to be posted. It definately shows your confidence in your product.

I have been using Carbolin 19 and HOT-ROX together and the weight is coming off fairly easy without strength loss. I have noticed the cravings are at a minimum while using them together. Also been using ZMA and do feel alot better after hard training and more rested in the morning also.

MAG-10: The best there was, bodyweight would go up 15 when on, down 10 when off.

Nandrosol/Androsol: Pretty good stuff, about 60-70% of MAG-10. STINGS when accidently sprayed on testicles.

Spike: very good buzz, similar to 27mg of Ritalin.

Power Drive: made me nauseaus(sp?) for some reason, but did give mad focus.

M: Kept me from gettin moody when i quit smoking.

TRIBEX: helped keep MAG-10 gains, gives me hard ons in the morning.

T2: no difference for me.

I just ordered 3 bottles of Carbolin 19 and will be conducting a 12 week self-study as soon as my V-diet transition is made. I don’t want to short change the chemicals in it by depriving the body of calories.

I have read a ton of information on Forskolin (The active compound I beileve) and all the literature I read definitely says it should produce results. Most of the sites said it gives favorable fat loss results, I read only one thing about LBM gains.

Following the Carbolin 19 Self Study, I may conduct a 12-week Alpha Male study… I don’t think the 3 week review that was posted earlier is enough to justify the 50 dollar purchase, so maybe a decent 12 week write-up could be cleaned up and published? Maybe my Carbolin journal could be published as well.