You Guys Ready for Sarah Palin Yet?

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:

And for all we know if she got elected, she would quit in the middle of the term to go make money.[/quote]

That would be a first a President quitting to do a book tour
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True.
But knowing her character I’m betting it would cost the tax payer less than the 2 week holiday to Hawaii we just paid.

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Are you judging her character from her Governorship of AK ?
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No.

I am betting she would have more character than Obama who whilst doing a poor job did not hesitate to reward himself to a $4 million holiday at the expense of the tax payer.

I also liked her character solely and exclusively for saying that Washington was “a cesspool” and “full of wusses”.

They don’t teach that kind of common sense and courage at Harvard.

I really am nonplussed by the eloquence of the weak that always make into high positions of power.

Tony Blair charges $592.000, half a million dollars AN HOUR as a public speaker:

We used to call him Tony Bliar

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[quote]Alpha F wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:

And for all we know if she got elected, she would quit in the middle of the term to go make money.[/quote]

That would be a first a President quitting to do a book tour
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True.
But knowing her character I’m betting it would cost the tax payer less than the 2 week holiday to Hawaii we just paid.

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Are you judging her character from her Governorship of AK ?
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No.

I am betting she would have more character than Obama who whilst doing a poor job did not hesitate to reward himself to a $4 million holiday at the expense of the tax payer.

I also liked her character solely and exclusively for saying that Washington was “a cesspool” and “full of wusses”.

They don’t teach that kind of common sense and courage at Harvard.

I really am nonplussed by the eloquence of the weak that always make into high positions of power.

Tony Blair charges $592.000, half a million dollars AN HOUR as a public speaker:

We used to call him Tony Bliar
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Glad that some get it – what good is it to us, the people, if a person graduates magna cum laude from Harvard and this person then sets out to destroy the country?

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[quote]smh23 wrote:
You brought up, as I expected you might, Obama’s 57 states gaffe. As I explained earlier, though: everyone makes mistakes. We all know that Obama knows how many states are in the union. He misspoke.[/quote]

And here is the liberal rationalization of Obama’s gaffes. Yes, he’s made more of them but the media doesn’t like to report them as it makes them feel ill.

“We all know that left wing politicians sometimes make mistakes…but those republicans are idiots. Joe Biden? Oh shucks he’s just being Joe and he’s much more intelligent than Palin…he must be he’s a democrat and the press has not made a major issue of it…bla bla bla”

Really smh?

Tha’s all you got on this?

PATHETIC!

By the way just to clear the air, you are most likely not as intelligent as Palin (just a gues). And you are certainly not nearly as successful financially, politically or probably in any other way.

So ramble on lefty.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:
And you are certainly not nearly as successful financially, politically or probably in any other way.

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By that logic: Obama > Palin…by a wide margin.

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[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
And you are certainly not nearly as successful financially, politically or probably in any other way.

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By that logic: Obama > Palin…by a wide margin.

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There are plenty of ways to measure success. Palin is more financially successful than Obama currently. She’s probably making in the vicinity of 5 million per year between her FOX salary speaking engagements, radio shows and the many other financial ventures that she’s involved in. Obama on the other hand has his assets frozen for four more years and is limited to his Presidential salary. Of course he will be in the chips in a big way when he leaves the office and begins writing his memoirs and doing speaking engagements for 200-k a pop.

But right now at least it’s Palin over Obama in the finance department.

As I said at the beginning of the thread I’m not a big Palin fan and I think she has zero chance to become President. But you lefty’s are gobble up the corrupt MSLM view of her so quickly that I can’t help but stick around and poke a stick at you.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

There are plenty of ways to measure success. Palin is more financially successful than Obama currently. She’s probably making in the vicinity of 5 million per year between her FOX salary speaking engagements, radio shows and the many other financial ventures that she’s involved in.

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Which is why she quit he job as Governor , right now the President makes about 400K. That is pretty easy to buy some one that measures their worth by dollars

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
And you are certainly not nearly as successful financially, politically or probably in any other way.

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By that logic: Obama > Palin…by a wide margin.

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There are plenty of ways to measure success. Palin is more financially successful than Obama currently. She’s probably making in the vicinity of 5 million per year between her FOX salary speaking engagements, radio shows and the many other financial ventures that she’s involved in. Obama on the other hand has his assets frozen for four more years and is limited to his Presidential salary. Of course he will be in the chips in a big way when he leaves the office and begins writing his memoirs and doing speaking engagements for 200-k a pop.

But right now at least it’s Palin over Obama in the finance department.

As I said at the beginning of the thread I’m not a big Palin fan and I think she has zero chance to become President. But you lefty’s are gobble up the corrupt MSLM view of her so quickly that I can’t help but stick around and poke a stick at you.

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Who said I’m a lefty? I called Palin a mediocrity and some go into the whole “she has more money, fame, political clout, etc.,” route than you argument. I didn’t know someone who aspires to the White House is measured against the “average” person but rather was measured against others who have held that office. If someone says a back up player on some team is mediocre and the reply is, “no he isn’t, he is better than you,” isn’t that missing the point? Palin wrote a couple of books. If someone says they were mediocre or not very good who is she being measured against? The reader who criticized her or other authors? Measure Palin against Lincoln or Roosevelt or Jefferson or Eisenhower or Washington and then tell me if she is mediocre. I would say mediocre is doing her a favor. And in all fairness, I don’t think Obama or Romney or many other current politicians measure up when we use past examples as the standards we measure them by.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
And you are certainly not nearly as successful financially, politically or probably in any other way.

[/quote]
By that logic: Obama > Palin…by a wide margin.

[/quote]

There are plenty of ways to measure success. Palin is more financially successful than Obama currently. She’s probably making in the vicinity of 5 million per year between her FOX salary speaking engagements, radio shows and the many other financial ventures that she’s involved in. Obama on the other hand has his assets frozen for four more years and is limited to his Presidential salary. Of course he will be in the chips in a big way when he leaves the office and begins writing his memoirs and doing speaking engagements for 200-k a pop.

But right now at least it’s Palin over Obama in the finance department.

As I said at the beginning of the thread I’m not a big Palin fan and I think she has zero chance to become President. But you lefty’s are gobble up the corrupt MSLM view of her so quickly that I can’t help but stick around and poke a stick at you.

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And Kim Kardashian has a net worth of over $40 million. Financial success is not always proportional to the caliber of the individual.

Palin’s academic achievements don’t quite match up with that of Obama’s.

“After graduating from high school in 1982, Palin enrolled at the University of Hawaii at Hilo. Shortly after arriving in Hawaii, Palin transferred to Hawaii Pacific University in Honolulu for a semester in the fall of 1982, and then to North Idaho College, a community college in Coeur d’Alene, for the spring and fall semesters of 1983 In June 2008, the Alumni Association of North Idaho College gave Palin its Distinguished Alumni Achievement Award.
In 1984, Palin won the Miss Wasilla beauty pageant, then finished third in the Miss Alaska pageant. She played the flute in the talent portion of the contest, and received both the Miss Congeniality award and a college scholarship.
She enrolled at the University of Idaho in Moscow for an academic year, starting in August 1984, then attended Matanuska-Susitna College in Alaska in the fall of 1985. Palin returned to the University of Idaho in January 1986, and received her bachelor’s degree in communications with an emphasis in journalism in May 1987.”

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:
You brought up, as I expected you might, Obama’s 57 states gaffe. As I explained earlier, though: everyone makes mistakes. We all know that Obama knows how many states are in the union. He misspoke.[/quote]

And here is the liberal rationalization of Obama’s gaffes. Yes, he’s made more of them but the media doesn’t like to report them as it makes them feel ill.

“We all know that left wing politicians sometimes make mistakes…but those republicans are idiots. Joe Biden? Oh shucks he’s just being Joe and he’s much more intelligent than Palin…he must be he’s a democrat and the press has not made a major issue of it…bla bla bla”

Really smh?

Tha’s all you got on this?

PATHETIC!

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Did you by any chance happen to be working for NBC during the Trayvon Martin shooting?

Here is the rest of that point, which you must have somehow forgotten to include:

“An analog to this would be Palin’s line about having to stand with our North Korean allies–I will reiterate that I do not have a problem with that. It’s easy to simply drop the word “South” and replace it with “North.” I don’t think it makes her stupid. It’s understandable. It’s not any kind of a problem.”

So, I laid out a paragraph in which I made a distinction between a gaffe–a slip of the tongue–and the kind of stupidity that precludes one from naming, over the course of an entire excruciating minute, a Supreme Court decision with which one disagrees. I did this by referencing a gaffe of Obama’s and a gaffe of Palin’s and concluding that neither bothers me.

Do I believe that a magna HLS grad and former president of the Harvard Law Review knows that there are in fact only 50 states in this union? Yes.

Do I believe that Palin knows South Koreans are the good guys and North Koreans are the bad guys? Yes. (though, if it’s true, as Fox reported, that it had to be explained to her that Africa is in fact a continent rather than a single country, I would not be terribly surprised if I were wrong about that).

You may agree or disagree with that conclusion, but what you can’t do–and, in case you’re missing my point here, this is exactly what you did–is pull half of a quote of mine because if it’s taken as a whole it makes your point look stupid. That’s what we call disingenuous.

Thanks for clearing the air. I hoped you might. I must say, though, that I don’t ascribe a terribly large amount of significance to an appraisal of my intelligence when it’s made by a devout Christian who, after what I’m assuming have been decades of religious belief, wrote of the Old Testament: “But genealogies in order to be accurate time wise would also have to include the ages of each person. I’m not buying that the Bible makes such a claim.”

Anyway, I agree with you that Palin is financially and politically more successful than I am. Though I doubt I’ll be losing sleep over it.

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FWIW, I agree Sarah Palin got a raw deal.

I also agree that her brand is so damaged that she’s a non-starter.

Paul Ryan, perhaps.
Eric Cantor, perhaps.
Marco Rubio, very much perhaps

Personally, I’d like to see a Rubio/Cantor ticket.

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[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
FWIW, I agree Sarah Palin got a raw deal.

I also agree that her brand is so damaged that she’s a non-starter.

Paul Ryan, perhaps.
Eric Cantor, perhaps.
Marco Rubio, very much perhaps

Personally, I’d like to see a Rubio/Cantor ticket.[/quote]

The damage that has been done is the real issue with Palin. It is not going to be undone and wishing for her is a false hope. It is better to look to people who actually have a chance of getting somewhere. Instead of rehashing someone who is done.

I like Rubio. But he still needs to polish his public speaking as he has little missteps that make him come across as not quite ready.

Personally I would like Alan West or John Bolton.

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If things continue as they are without any major surprises (a big if, of course), I would be surprised if Rubio is not elected President at some point or another.

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

There are plenty of ways to measure success. Palin is more financially successful than Obama currently. She’s probably making in the vicinity of 5 million per year between her FOX salary speaking engagements, radio shows and the many other financial ventures that she’s involved in.

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Which is why she quit he job as Governor , right now the President makes about 400K. That is pretty easy to buy some one that measures their worth by dollars
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Not talking about their self worth Pitt. You really have start reading the posts before you comment. Only talking about one part of success…financial!

Clear now?

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[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
And you are certainly not nearly as successful financially, politically or probably in any other way.

[/quote]
By that logic: Obama > Palin…by a wide margin.

[/quote]

There are plenty of ways to measure success. Palin is more financially successful than Obama currently. She’s probably making in the vicinity of 5 million per year between her FOX salary speaking engagements, radio shows and the many other financial ventures that she’s involved in. Obama on the other hand has his assets frozen for four more years and is limited to his Presidential salary. Of course he will be in the chips in a big way when he leaves the office and begins writing his memoirs and doing speaking engagements for 200-k a pop.

But right now at least it’s Palin over Obama in the finance department.

As I said at the beginning of the thread I’m not a big Palin fan and I think she has zero chance to become President. But you lefty’s are gobble up the corrupt MSLM view of her so quickly that I can’t help but stick around and poke a stick at you.

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Who said I’m a lefty? I called Palin a mediocrity and some go into the whole “she has more money, fame, political clout, etc.,” route than you argument. I didn’t know someone who aspires to the White House is measured against the “average” person but rather was measured against others who have held that office. If someone says a back up player on some team is mediocre and the reply is, “no he isn’t, he is better than you,” isn’t that missing the point? Palin wrote a couple of books. If someone says they were mediocre or not very good who is she being measured against? The reader who criticized her or other authors? Measure Palin against Lincoln or Roosevelt or Jefferson or Eisenhower or Washington and then tell me if she is mediocre. I would say mediocre is doing her a favor. And in all fairness, I don’t think Obama or Romney or many other current politicians measure up when we use past examples as the standards we measure them by. [/quote]

I had no idea that the concept of financial success is so difficult to grasp. Nor did I measure her as compared to you. Now reread the first line of my post. I maintain that Palin, at least right now is more financially successful than Obama.

All that may change in 10 years. But right now Sarah Palin the same one that many think is an idiot is out earning the President of the United States by a good margin. You can think that this is good, unfair or bad…it’s a fact.

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[quote]Legionary wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
And you are certainly not nearly as successful financially, politically or probably in any other way.

[/quote]
By that logic: Obama > Palin…by a wide margin.

[/quote]

There are plenty of ways to measure success. Palin is more financially successful than Obama currently. She’s probably making in the vicinity of 5 million per year between her FOX salary speaking engagements, radio shows and the many other financial ventures that she’s involved in. Obama on the other hand has his assets frozen for four more years and is limited to his Presidential salary. Of course he will be in the chips in a big way when he leaves the office and begins writing his memoirs and doing speaking engagements for 200-k a pop.

But right now at least it’s Palin over Obama in the finance department.

As I said at the beginning of the thread I’m not a big Palin fan and I think she has zero chance to become President. But you lefty’s are gobble up the corrupt MSLM view of her so quickly that I can’t help but stick around and poke a stick at you.

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And Kim Kardashian has a net worth of over $40 million. Financial success is not always proportional to the caliber of the individual.[/quote]

Please stop mischaracterizing my point.

For the last time…I am only measuring FINANCIAL SUCCESS. I am not making a claim on anything else.

Why can’t people who hate Palin wrap their arms around the fact that she is worth more than their hero Obama?

As a side note…

By the way I’m sure you can find many, many people who can blow away Obama in the IQ department. Not that we’ll ever know as the information is under lock and key. Ha ha you’d think they’d be bragging about his IQ if it was all that high.

Anyway yeah Palin is kicking obam’s as in the money making category.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

There are plenty of ways to measure success. Palin is more financially successful than Obama currently. She’s probably making in the vicinity of 5 million per year between her FOX salary speaking engagements, radio shows and the many other financial ventures that she’s involved in.

[/quote]

Which is why she quit he job as Governor , right now the President makes about 400K. That is pretty easy to buy some one that measures their worth by dollars
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Not talking about their self worth Pitt. You really have start reading the posts before you comment. Only talking about one part of success…financial!

Clear now?[/quote]

yeah it has always been clear :slight_smile:

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[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:
You brought up, as I expected you might, Obama’s 57 states gaffe. As I explained earlier, though: everyone makes mistakes. We all know that Obama knows how many states are in the union. He misspoke.[/quote]

And here is the liberal rationalization of Obama’s gaffes. Yes, he’s made more of them but the media doesn’t like to report them as it makes them feel ill.

“We all know that left wing politicians sometimes make mistakes…but those republicans are idiots. Joe Biden? Oh shucks he’s just being Joe and he’s much more intelligent than Palin…he must be he’s a democrat and the press has not made a major issue of it…bla bla bla”

Really smh?

Tha’s all you got on this?

PATHETIC!

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Did you by any chance happen to be working for NBC during the Trayvon Martin shooting?[/quote]

Yes, I am a liberal who works for one of the corrupt MSLM outlets. And I wanted George Zimmerman to look like a racist because it matches my outlook of how the typical schmuck views African Americans and promotes my liberal views. Much like when I made Sarah Palin look bad by editing her interviews and writing lies about her on the Internet. This keeps her down in the public eye hence she will never be a threat.

Furthermore, as a liberal my only lament is that I canot do more to help Barack Obama further his socialist agenda.

Hey…hey…you are not finished yet mister! Keep working hard you’ll get there. I have faith in you.

:slight_smile:

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

There are plenty of ways to measure success. Palin is more financially successful than Obama currently. She’s probably making in the vicinity of 5 million per year between her FOX salary speaking engagements, radio shows and the many other financial ventures that she’s involved in.

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Which is why she quit he job as Governor , right now the President makes about 400K. That is pretty easy to buy some one that measures their worth by dollars
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No. She left because Democrats discovered that the governor must pay for their own legal defense when sued. They filed something like 75 frivilous lawsuits against her and her legal bills were aroung $500,000.

The law has since been changed so that the state of Alaska defends the governor and those who file such petty suits get sued themselves.

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[quote]smh23 wrote:
If things continue as they are without any major surprises (a big if, of course), I would be surprised if Rubio is not elected President at some point or another.[/quote]

Not when the media gets a hold of him. He has a couple of skeletons in the closet…like Obama and just about everyone else. But Rubio is a republican and whoever the dems put up will be catapulted to God like status and Rubio will be run into the ground just like they did to Romney in those “fair” debates…and many other ways.

Bets?