There are plenty of ways to measure success. Palin is more financially successful than Obama currently. She’s probably making in the vicinity of 5 million per year between her FOX salary speaking engagements, radio shows and the many other financial ventures that she’s involved in.
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Poor LIL Sara , Palin cashed in on McCains poor choice and IMO has a small but loyal fan base
Which is why she quit he job as Governor , right now the President makes about 400K. That is pretty easy to buy some one that measures their worth by dollars
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No. She left because Democrats discovered that the governor must pay for their own legal defense when sued. They filed something like 75 frivilous lawsuits against her and her legal bills were aroung $500,000.
The law has since been changed so that the state of Alaska defends the governor and those who file such petty suits get sued themselves.
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"But to the American Civil Liberties Union, the president?s word alone was insufficient. ?President Obama has utterly failed the first test of his second term, even before inauguration day.? said Anthony Romero, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union, in a statement. ?His signature means indefinite detention without charge or trial, as well as the illegal military commissions, will be extended.?
Hey…hey…you are not finished yet mister! Keep working hard you’ll get there. I have faith in you.
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Haha, kind words. I’d be lying if I said I wouldn’t love to collect Palin’s paychecks, that’s for sure.[/quote]
Actually Palin cashing in her celebrity was one of my better predictions which I made right here on T Nation after her loss in the 2008 election. You could probably find the thread if you had the time and inclination.
Anyway, it was a no brainer. The press destroyed her however the far right idolized her. It made sense that she would cash in sooner rather than later.
As for you making more than Palin I believe that if that’s what you want and your entire focus is on that one thing, you can do it!
I’m a big goals guy and I know that every kind of success is built one step at a time with your eye on the ultimate prize. Whatever that prize might be for you.
I sincerely hope you’re joking. Of course she would. She also has the same level of mastery of foreign policy as a box of pancake mix.[/quote]
Well I have to agree with you on that one. No way she’d be savvy enough to go on an apology tour, bow to foreign leaders, treat our enemies like our friends and our friends (Israel) like our enemies. And of course their was that brilliant piece of foreign policy…what was it called? Oh yeah…Benghazi! First time an American Ambassador was killed in over 40 years. But that was all over a video on the Internet it wasn’t terrorism according to Obama. Oh wait…he was wrong wasn’t he? But at least the press made him look like an idiot for saying such a thing. Oh wait no they didn’t either they covered for him.
I don’t get it Obama had a whole two years as a US Senator before rising to the Presidency one would have thought that he’d be an expert with all that experience and his alleged incredible intellect. An intellect so brilliant that all of his college grades and IQ score have been held under lock and key.
He’s a freaking genius just ask anyone in the corrupt mainstream liberal media.
I sincerely hope you’re joking. Of course she would. She also has the same level of mastery of foreign policy as a box of pancake mix.[/quote]
Well, I think Sarah would make a decent plate of pancakes.
If Bam’s foreign policy acumen is an indicator he would surely dump the box of pancake on his head and giggle.[/quote]
Disagree. Obama would have his wife make the pancakes because he knows where women belong. Judging by your post you seem to agree that they belong there as well.
I sincerely hope you’re joking. Of course she would. She also has the same level of mastery of foreign policy as a box of pancake mix.[/quote]
Well I have to agree with you on that one. No way she’d be savvy enough to go on an apology tour, bow to foreign leaders, treat our enemies like our friends and our friends (Israel) like our enemies. And of course their was that brilliant piece of foreign policy…what was it called? Oh yeah…Benghazi! First time an American Ambassador was killed in over 40 years. But that was all over a video on the Internet it wasn’t terrorism according to Obama. Oh wait…he was wrong wasn’t he? But at least the press made him look like an idiot for saying such a thing. Oh wait no they didn’t either they covered for him.
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Your post is a mirror image of Fox News talking points. Have you considered looking into these complex issues on your own instead of being spoon fed by partisan hacks? The same would apply if you watched MSNBC. Foreign Policy issues are rarely white or black, but various shades of grey. You don’t seem to understand the extent to which Iraq War damaged our standing in the international community. Heaven forbid that the president execute one of his office’s historical roles, that of chief diplomat. Bengazi? Yes, the administration could have been more forthright with the American people. Unfortunately, it was election season. I hope you were equally outraged at the strategic blunder in Iraq that claimed countless more American lives? Also, I count 4 American ambassadors that have been killed in your time-frame of 40 years. Since 1973, we have lost ambassadors Cleo A. Noel Jr, Rodger P. Davies, Francis E. Meloy Jr, and Adolph Dubs were in targeted killings.
I sincerely hope you’re joking. Of course she would. She also has the same level of mastery of foreign policy as a box of pancake mix.[/quote]
Well I have to agree with you on that one. No way she’d be savvy enough to go on an apology tour, bow to foreign leaders, treat our enemies like our friends and our friends (Israel) like our enemies. And of course their was that brilliant piece of foreign policy…what was it called? Oh yeah…Benghazi! First time an American Ambassador was killed in over 40 years. But that was all over a video on the Internet it wasn’t terrorism according to Obama. Oh wait…he was wrong wasn’t he? But at least the press made him look like an idiot for saying such a thing. Oh wait no they didn’t either they covered for him.
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Your post is a mirror image of Fox News talking points. Have you considered looking into these complex issues on your own instead of being spoon fed by partisan hacks? The same would apply if you watched MSNBC. Foreign Policy issues are rarely white or black, but various shades of grey. You don’t seem to understand the extent to which Iraq War damaged our standing in the international community. Heaven forbid that the president execute one of his office’s historical roles, that of chief diplomat. Bengazi? Yes, the administration could have been more forthright with the American people. Unfortunately, it was election season. I hope you were equally outraged at the strategic blunder in Iraq that claimed countless more American lives? Also, I count 4 American ambassadors that have been killed in your time-frame of 40 years. Since 1973, we have lost ambassadors Cleo A. Noel Jr, Rodger P. Davies, Francis E. Meloy Jr, and Adolph Dubs were in targeted killings.[/quote]
You are wise beyond your years , you are called a liberal because you disagree with the Circle Jerk Society . And Zeb is incapable of original thought
Speaks one of the founders of the CJS and I do not mean Corpus Juris Secundum
I sincerely hope you’re joking. Of course she would. She also has the same level of mastery of foreign policy as a box of pancake mix.[/quote]
Well I have to agree with you on that one. No way she’d be savvy enough to go on an apology tour, bow to foreign leaders, treat our enemies like our friends and our friends (Israel) like our enemies. And of course their was that brilliant piece of foreign policy…what was it called? Oh yeah…Benghazi! First time an American Ambassador was killed in over 40 years. But that was all over a video on the Internet it wasn’t terrorism according to Obama. Oh wait…he was wrong wasn’t he? But at least the press made him look like an idiot for saying such a thing. Oh wait no they didn’t either they covered for him.
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Your post is a mirror image of Fox News talking points. Have you considered looking into these complex issues on your own instead of being spoon fed by partisan hacks? The same would apply if you watched MSNBC. Foreign Policy issues are rarely white or black, but various shades of grey. You don’t seem to understand the extent to which Iraq War damaged our standing in the international community. Heaven forbid that the president execute one of his office’s historical roles, that of chief diplomat. Bengazi? Yes, the administration could have been more forthright with the American people. Unfortunately, it was election season. I hope you were equally outraged at the strategic blunder in Iraq that claimed countless more American lives? Also, I count 4 American ambassadors that have been killed in your time-frame of 40 years. Since 1973, we have lost ambassadors Cleo A. Noel Jr, Rodger P. Davies, Francis E. Meloy Jr, and Adolph Dubs were in targeted killings.[/quote]
I sincerely hope you’re joking. Of course she would. She also has the same level of mastery of foreign policy as a box of pancake mix.[/quote]
Well I have to agree with you on that one. No way she’d be savvy enough to go on an apology tour, bow to foreign leaders, treat our enemies like our friends and our friends (Israel) like our enemies. And of course their was that brilliant piece of foreign policy…what was it called? Oh yeah…Benghazi! First time an American Ambassador was killed in over 40 years. But that was all over a video on the Internet it wasn’t terrorism according to Obama. Oh wait…he was wrong wasn’t he? But at least the press made him look like an idiot for saying such a thing. Oh wait no they didn’t either they covered for him.
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Your post is a mirror image of Fox News talking points. Have you considered looking into these complex issues on your own instead of being spoon fed by partisan hacks? The same would apply if you watched MSNBC. Foreign Policy issues are rarely white or black, but various shades of grey. You don’t seem to understand the extent to which Iraq War damaged our standing in the international community. Heaven forbid that the president execute one of his office’s historical roles, that of chief diplomat. Bengazi? Yes, the administration could have been more forthright with the American people. Unfortunately, it was election season. I hope you were equally outraged at the strategic blunder in Iraq that claimed countless more American lives? Also, I count 4 American ambassadors that have been killed in your time-frame of 40 years. Since 1973, we have lost ambassadors Cleo A. Noel Jr, Rodger P. Davies, Francis E. Meloy Jr, and Adolph Dubs were in targeted killings.[/quote]
Lame response.[/quote]
Speaks one of the founders of the CJS and I do not mean Corpus Juris Secundum
I sincerely hope you’re joking. Of course she would. She also has the same level of mastery of foreign policy as a box of pancake mix.[/quote]
Well I have to agree with you on that one. No way she’d be savvy enough to go on an apology tour, bow to foreign leaders, treat our enemies like our friends and our friends (Israel) like our enemies. And of course their was that brilliant piece of foreign policy…what was it called? Oh yeah…Benghazi! First time an American Ambassador was killed in over 40 years. But that was all over a video on the Internet it wasn’t terrorism according to Obama. Oh wait…he was wrong wasn’t he? But at least the press made him look like an idiot for saying such a thing. Oh wait no they didn’t either they covered for him.
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Your post is a mirror image of Fox News talking points. Have you considered looking into these complex issues on your own instead of being spoon fed by partisan hacks? The same would apply if you watched MSNBC. Foreign Policy issues are rarely white or black, but various shades of grey. You don’t seem to understand the extent to which Iraq War damaged our standing in the international community. Heaven forbid that the president execute one of his office’s historical roles, that of chief diplomat. Bengazi? Yes, the administration could have been more forthright with the American people. Unfortunately, it was election season. I hope you were equally outraged at the strategic blunder in Iraq that claimed countless more American lives? Also, I count 4 American ambassadors that have been killed in your time-frame of 40 years. Since 1973, we have lost ambassadors Cleo A. Noel Jr, Rodger P. Davies, Francis E. Meloy Jr, and Adolph Dubs were in targeted killings.[/quote]
Lame response.[/quote]
Cool. You have nothing to add do you? I demonstrated that ZEB is a demagogue and doesn’t have even a basic understanding of diplomatic history 101. 4 times over actually.
I sincerely hope you’re joking. Of course she would. She also has the same level of mastery of foreign policy as a box of pancake mix.[/quote]
Well I have to agree with you on that one. No way she’d be savvy enough to go on an apology tour, bow to foreign leaders, treat our enemies like our friends and our friends (Israel) like our enemies. And of course their was that brilliant piece of foreign policy…what was it called? Oh yeah…Benghazi! First time an American Ambassador was killed in over 40 years. But that was all over a video on the Internet it wasn’t terrorism according to Obama. Oh wait…he was wrong wasn’t he? But at least the press made him look like an idiot for saying such a thing. Oh wait no they didn’t either they covered for him.
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Your post is a mirror image of Fox News talking points. Have you considered looking into these complex issues on your own instead of being spoon fed by partisan hacks? The same would apply if you watched MSNBC. Foreign Policy issues are rarely white or black, but various shades of grey. You don’t seem to understand the extent to which Iraq War damaged our standing in the international community. Heaven forbid that the president execute one of his office’s historical roles, that of chief diplomat. Bengazi? Yes, the administration could have been more forthright with the American people. Unfortunately, it was election season. I hope you were equally outraged at the strategic blunder in Iraq that claimed countless more American lives? Also, I count 4 American ambassadors that have been killed in your time-frame of 40 years. Since 1973, we have lost ambassadors Cleo A. Noel Jr, Rodger P. Davies, Francis E. Meloy Jr, and Adolph Dubs were in targeted killings.[/quote]
I stand corrected on the number of years but I am correct on the number of deaths by terrorism. Adolph Dubs was the most recent Ambassador who was killed by terrorists. The date of his death was 1979. That was 33 years ago (not 40). That’s when we had another ineffectual democratic President, Jimmy Carter. I guess the terrorists just seem to know huh?
Also, did you know that it is now considered a taking point to simply claim that someone is using a talking point? That is unless the person claiming “talking point” is able to refute the same, you were unabe. You suffer from “FOX said it so it’s automatically wrong” Syndrome. Sometimes MSNBC gets it right, sometimes FOX does too.
As for Obama’s foreign policy, he doesn’t have one. But you already know that you’re a sharp guy.
As for Palin, I would say in raw intelligence she is in obama’s league no question. I honestly think that Obama is far more sizzle than steak.
I sincerely hope you’re joking. Of course she would. She also has the same level of mastery of foreign policy as a box of pancake mix.[/quote]
Well I have to agree with you on that one. No way she’d be savvy enough to go on an apology tour, bow to foreign leaders, treat our enemies like our friends and our friends (Israel) like our enemies. And of course their was that brilliant piece of foreign policy…what was it called? Oh yeah…Benghazi! First time an American Ambassador was killed in over 40 years. But that was all over a video on the Internet it wasn’t terrorism according to Obama. Oh wait…he was wrong wasn’t he? But at least the press made him look like an idiot for saying such a thing. Oh wait no they didn’t either they covered for him.
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Your post is a mirror image of Fox News talking points. Have you considered looking into these complex issues on your own instead of being spoon fed by partisan hacks? The same would apply if you watched MSNBC. Foreign Policy issues are rarely white or black, but various shades of grey. You don’t seem to understand the extent to which Iraq War damaged our standing in the international community. Heaven forbid that the president execute one of his office’s historical roles, that of chief diplomat. Bengazi? Yes, the administration could have been more forthright with the American people. Unfortunately, it was election season. I hope you were equally outraged at the strategic blunder in Iraq that claimed countless more American lives? Also, I count 4 American ambassadors that have been killed in your time-frame of 40 years. Since 1973, we have lost ambassadors Cleo A. Noel Jr, Rodger P. Davies, Francis E. Meloy Jr, and Adolph Dubs were in targeted killings.[/quote]
You are wise beyond your years , you are called a liberal because you disagree with the Circle Jerk Society . And Zeb is incapable of original thought
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That’s not true Pitt, I was the first guy on this site to notice that you were… shall we say…a bit slow.
I sincerely hope you’re joking. Of course she would. She also has the same level of mastery of foreign policy as a box of pancake mix.[/quote]
Well I have to agree with you on that one. No way she’d be savvy enough to go on an apology tour, bow to foreign leaders, treat our enemies like our friends and our friends (Israel) like our enemies. And of course their was that brilliant piece of foreign policy…what was it called? Oh yeah…Benghazi! First time an American Ambassador was killed in over 40 years. But that was all over a video on the Internet it wasn’t terrorism according to Obama. Oh wait…he was wrong wasn’t he? But at least the press made him look like an idiot for saying such a thing. Oh wait no they didn’t either they covered for him.
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Your post is a mirror image of Fox News talking points. Have you considered looking into these complex issues on your own instead of being spoon fed by partisan hacks? The same would apply if you watched MSNBC. Foreign Policy issues are rarely white or black, but various shades of grey. You don’t seem to understand the extent to which Iraq War damaged our standing in the international community. Heaven forbid that the president execute one of his office’s historical roles, that of chief diplomat. Bengazi? Yes, the administration could have been more forthright with the American people. Unfortunately, it was election season. I hope you were equally outraged at the strategic blunder in Iraq that claimed countless more American lives? Also, I count 4 American ambassadors that have been killed in your time-frame of 40 years. Since 1973, we have lost ambassadors Cleo A. Noel Jr, Rodger P. Davies, Francis E. Meloy Jr, and Adolph Dubs were in targeted killings.[/quote]
I stand corrected on the number of years but I am correct on the number of deaths by terrorism. Adolph Dubs was the most recent Ambassador who was killed by terrorists. The date of his death was 1979. That was 33 years ago (not 40). That’s when we had another ineffectual democratic President, Jimmy Carter. I guess the terrorists just seem to know huh? . . .
As for Obama’s foreign policy, he doesn’t have one. But you already know that you’re a sharp guy.
As for Palin, I would say in raw intelligence she is in obama’s league no question. I honestly think that Obama is far more sizzle than steak.
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Nope. Wrong again. Cleo A. Noel was assassinated by the PLO (Black September) in 1973 during the Nixon administration. Your quick google search should have informed you of that. Also, you never said deaths by “terrorism.” Rather, you said “First time an American Ambassador was killed in over 40 years.” Regardless, how would you be correct if you weren’t aware of the deaths in the first place?
This period we’re living in reminds me of the period prior to the Civil War, from what I’ve read. Every president then kicked the can down the road wrt slavery and tariffs.
It will take a ‘new person’, not a lawyer (yes, Lincoln was a railroad lawyer) or banker or some other criminal like that. But people will want someone familiar, someone who was hated by the scum who created the current mess and subsequent disaster.
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You don’t seem to understand the extent to which Iraq War damaged our standing in the international community.[/quote]
But the war in Libya didn’t. Because Barack Obama is just awesome! Everybody in Europe has a hard on for him so he can’t do anything wrong. But some Texas Christian in a Stetson hat who talks about “evil doers” and so on? No way. We can’t afford to offend European sensibilities after all. They might refuse to keep their US missile defence systems or they might kick out those 50,000 US troops in Germany. Or the Japanese might do likewise and refuse to accept US treaty obligations to protect them if attacked. I hear China really likes the smell of all that oil and gas wafting over the Senkaku islands.
Who did Bush upset that matters? The precious Europeans? Our friends in Asia? The IslamoNazis? Obama fares worse in the ME polls than Bush did. The Arab spring burst out on his watch, was fostered by him(except in Iran) and IslamoNazi regimes have emerged thanks to his foreign policy. Can you imagine Bush toppling Mubarak and allowing the Islamo-fundies to take over everywhere? Can you imagine Bush running taxpayer funded apologies on Pakistani television and entertaining US blasphemy laws? Reneging on arms deals with the Taiwanese after pressure from the Commies? Allowing Putin/Medvedev to back Syria/Iran? Only radical leftists like Barack Hussein Obama behave like that. When it comes to foreign policy Obama always supports the enemy. It’s his ideology; he just can’t help himself. That’s why he sent back Churchill’s bust to the British.