You Guys Ready for Sarah Palin Yet?

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[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
smh proves himself to be a sucker to the mainstream left wing media.

They concocted a narrative about Palin. He swallowed it hook, line and sinker.

Like I said, a sucker.

Develop a filter, my young friend.[/quote]

Every single point I made was born of words that came out of Sarah Palin’s mouth or in I believe one single case the corroborated testimony of political operatives within the McCain/Palin ticket. There is no media spin on her inability to name a book she reads. And that one’s on video, so it can’t be some elaborate fabrication either.

Or can you disprove any of what I listed? ANY at all?[/quote]

Ahhh…I see…you don’t think she’s a good performer. OK.

So the guy you said you voted for VP…how well does he perform in front of the microphone and camera?

For that matter how well can you perform under the bright lights, amigo? Got that one all sewn up?

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Performer?

There is no amount of performance necessary in producing the name of a newspaper or magazine that one reads when one’s asked to do so. There is no amount of performance necessary in producing the name of a Supreme Court decision other than Roe v. Wade when one’s asked to do so. There is no amount of performance necessary in demonstrating an understanding that the rationale underpinning the majority opinion of Roe v. Wade had to do with a Constitutional right to privacy when one’s asked to do so. There’s no performance necessary in naming the three members of NAFTA. I could go on for quite some time.

Only an ignoramus could fuck all of those up (try this: would Biden, Obama, Boehner, Cantor, McConnell, Pelosi, and both Clintons ever have failed to name a newspaper they read or a Supreme Court decision they didn’t agree with other than Roe v. Wade or the three fucking members of NAFTA? Doubtful.). And only an arrogant, power-hungry twit could fuck all of those up without letting out a long and defeated sigh, looking into the camera, and explaining that, as a patriot and someone who wants the best for this country, she implores the electorate not to vote for her.

If you honestly believe that a person can have so much excruciating trouble with these very basic measurements of competence and still be fit for high office, then you might as well parade the cast of Jersey Shore out into the campaign trail.

Note, by the way, that I’ve listed substantial idiocies, not gaffes. A gaffe is when she said that we need to stand with our North Korean allies–it’s a mistake. It relies upon a single misplaced word. It’s understandable. No one holds it against her or anybody else.[/quote]

You didn’t follow the story well enough. You apparently are the ignoramus for not knowing how her responses were butchered in the editing room to make her look like a bozo. You sir, are the fool. Not her.

Like I said, a sucker. But don’t worry, suckers are legion.[/quote]

No editing. Questions from Couric and then unbroken shots of Palin’s answers. 1:04-2:00 is a single, unedited shot of Palin clearly unable to even think of a Supreme Court decision other than that one that everybody already knows about and likewise clearly ignorant of the fact that privacy was an essential component of that particular ruling.

So you agree that this was real, real dumb then?

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Single, unedited shot of Palin unable to name a newspaper or magazine she reads.

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:

And for all we know if she got elected, she would quit in the middle of the term to go make money.[/quote]

That would be a first a President quitting to do a book tour
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True.
But knowing her character I’m betting it would cost the tax payer less than the 2 week holiday to Hawaii we just paid.

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I only get on here when I truly believe in a subject. I know Sara Palin takes the time to read, educate and contemplate before she speaks for the people! She has proven herself.

She doesn’t need the fancy Ivy League diploma to validate her intelligence.

The country, the media, and the people have seen her positive influence. Why is it so hard for the rest of you to open your minds to the great possibility that she just may be right?

This woman and politician is respected in her abilities as a spokesperson for the people for the betterment of such. She stands up while you sit on your couch listening to one point of view spoon fed to you and believe whole soul that it is written in stone.

What was America built on? What is the common man fighting for? What does the common man believe in?

I believe that Sara Palin fights for that – with intelligence.

Just because they have a diploma their fathers bought for them doesn’t make him or her a better politician!

I BELIEVE that she as the president would make an incredible difference – not just riding on the coat tails of others but fighting for all of us – standing up for the betterment of America, each one of us, as it should be done, INDEPENDENT AND FREE!

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[quote]TenashusReslushn wrote:
I only get on here when I truly believe in a subject. I know Sara Palin takes the time to read, educate and contemplate before she speaks for the people! She has proven herself.

She doesn’t need the fancy Ivy League diploma to validate her intelligence.

The country, the media, and the people have seen her positive influence. Why is it so hard for the rest of you to open your minds to the great possibility that she just may be right?

This woman and politician is respected in her abilities as a spokesperson for the people for the betterment of such. She stands up while you sit on your couch listening to one point of view spoon fed to you and believe whole soul that it is written in stone.

What was America built on? What is the common man fighting for? What does the common man believe in?

I believe that Sara Palin fights for that – with intelligence.

Just because they have a diploma their fathers bought for them doesn’t make him or her a better politician!

I BELIEVE that she as the president would make an incredible difference – not just riding on the coat tails of others but fighting for all of us – standing up for the betterment of America, each one of us, as it should be done, INDEPENDENT AND FREE! [/quote]

I agree with you. But she’s about as popular as a turd in the punch bowl. The media did a real hatchet job on her.

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Someday people will realize that being a moral person is a requirement for POTUS.

Sarah crossed the aisle twice in Alaska because Republicans, her own party, refused to get rid of criminals within the party. When has Obama ever done anything like that?

When all hell breaks loose (and it will…this system is dying), we must return to morality, or we perish. Palin is our best hope to redeem this great country.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:
“Unedited.”

  • wink

CBS always uses integrity in the editing room.

You betcha.[/quote]

Now come on Push how are they supposed to make her look like an idiot if they don’t use the ediint process?

On a similar note I vividly recall how the press made Dan Quayle look over his four year period as Vice President because of a couple of his off the cuff comments. Yet, Joe Biden has far surpassed in stupidity anything Dan Quayle ever said and there’s rarely a mention of Biden’s intelligence.

My gosh he looked like an idiot who had sucked down a gallon of coffee during his debate with Ryan…but barely a word was mentioned.

The press has become a very corrupt force for the left. And most things of a political nature reported by the MSLM should not e believed.

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While I wouldn’t support her for President (but few current Democrats or Republicans if any would I support), my contention all along has been basically what you are saying. We could debate the reasons for WHY she is in the state she’s in public opinion speaking, but the facts won’t really change on what pretty much everyone in this thread minus HH is saying.

We will elect a new POTUS in 2016. It will almost assuredly be a Democrat or a Republican. It might be a man, it might be a woman. It might be a black person, a white person, a hispanic, or someone of mixed descent.

It will NOT be Sarah Palin. And no one has come close to a rational argument for why it would be either other than HH’s contention that after shit hits the fan she will be the one we turn to because well…damn it she’s just great and moral so of course we would turn to her despite people not liking her enough to run for President in 2012. The issue keeps getting twisted around with how bad does Biden suck, or how intelligent she is, or what the media did, etc.

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Time for the oft cited Buckley quote with which I fully agree.

I’ll take ANYBODY with actually American instincts and sensibilities, regardless of education or the lack thereof over just about ANYBODY in EITHER party today. I’ll take Davy Crockett over Brad Sherman any day.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:
Smh, I can admit that Sarah has not always performed well under the bright lights and microphone.

Have you? I ask because while you may not be talked about as a presidential contender I get the distinct impression you think you’re the sharper knife in the drawer as compared to Palin.

I’ll ask again: what about your man, Joe B? How does he perform under the bright lights and microphones? How bout your “57 states” president? The “intercontinental railroad” guy? Your “naval corpse-man” Harvard educated lawyer? Your 2008 choice for president who’s scared shitless to release his college transcripts?

We’ve got complete dunces for Pres and VP right now and you condescending yayhoos are picking on Palin? Really?[/quote]

A couple of points:

  1. There was, of course, editing involved. Some of it may have been malicious or unfair. But the points I’ve been bashing her for could not have involved editing because they are unbroken shots. So, while editing may be something of an important issue in general, it has little to do with the Supreme Court decision thing or the reading magazines thing. Also, let’s not forget that she didn’t know what NAFTA was. You could say that you believe that to be a fabrication, but I think it certainly casts some doubt on her intelligence. And it certainly feels pretty right to me.

  2. You brought up, as I expected you might, Obama’s 57 states gaffe. As I explained earlier, though: everyone makes mistakes. We all know that Obama knows how many states are in the union. He misspoke. An analog to this would be Palin’s line about having to stand with our North Korean allies–I will reiterate that I do not have a problem with that. It’s easy to simply drop the word “South” and replace it with “North.” I don’t think it makes her stupid. It’s understandable. It’s not any kind of a problem.

But when she has a full minute to produce the name of a newspaper that she’s read and simply can’t do it? When she can’t name a Supreme Court decision in an excruciating 45 seconds of fumbling around like a fool? When she tells a newspaper reporter that she doesn’t even really know what the VP does? Not good. And not a gaffe.

  1. Obama graduated magna cum laude from Harvard:

So, while we don’t have his actual grades, we know beyond any kind of shade of doubt that he graduated within the top five or ten percent of his class–which, at HLS, is something of an accomplishment.

  1. Biden is a blundering dunce. He is extraordinarily prone to gaffes. He is also much more intelligent that Palin. If we compare his answer to Palin’s on the Supreme Court question:

We notice that, unlike her, it is obvious that he’s got some basic level of historical and legal understanding. He seems to have read or at least skimmed through Roe v. Wade. He’s got some kind of an idea that the Supreme Court has also made other decisions since its inception. He’s even familiar with a few of them. Now, I don’t expect you to like what he’s saying or to agree with him–I don’t either–but it’s clear that he’s done some sort of basic thinking about the decision.

  1. I would say that she’s actually a skilled performer. It’s been reported time and again that much of her public persona is an act. While I don’t imagine that she speaks in a posh British accent at home with Todd, it seems unlikely that she speaks in hokey bumpkin-talk all the time.

  2. I am not in the business of talking myself up. I don’t have as high of an opinion of myself as you seem to think I do. But, if I did think myself more intelligent than Palin, I would consider it to be such a trite and backhanded compliment as to disqualify it from being considered anything like a boast.

Which is not to say that she doesn’t have an obvious knack for the media-politics game–she can squeeze money and fame out of it like nobody else. I wouldn’t deny that she’s been successful.

Anyway, I don’t want to get too wrapped up in this conversation because it’s something of a futile exercise–she isn’t running.

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Question:

When it comes to Palin and Biden…are many of you mixing “Intelligence” with “Ignorance”?

I think that both are intelligent people…but “Killer Joe” certainly understands U.S. politics MUCH more the Palin does…and that its a Blood Sport that takes no prisoners.

By the same token, Palin has knowledge and charisma that Biden could only wish he had. She motivates people.

And as far as being President? I think that it’s pure speculation as to whom would be “better”. While I personally wouldn’t Vote for either…it is an office that has historically changed people in profound ways…for better and for worse.

Mufasa

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Haven’t you had enough of these Harvard lawyers (Obama, Romney), Yale business grads (Bush), and scummy Rhodes Scholars (Clinton)?
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Yes. We need someone who received an education funded by tax payers. She truly understands and values socialist principles. She is a manifestation of the leveling of the playing field and equal opportunity…the very things socialism fosters. I believe her campaign slogan will be: Don’t let mediocrity hold you back. [/quote]

It seems that you’ve just described a program developed by the left to assist minorities in attending college. [/quote]
Are you saying that minorities are mediocre?

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Haven’t you had enough of these Harvard lawyers (Obama, Romney), Yale business grads (Bush), and scummy Rhodes Scholars (Clinton)?
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Yes. We need someone who received an education funded by tax payers. She truly understands and values socialist principles. She is a manifestation of the leveling of the playing field and equal opportunity…the very things socialism fosters. I believe her campaign slogan will be: Don’t let mediocrity hold you back. [/quote]

Waitress → City Council member → Mayor → Energy Commission → Governor (80% approval)

Yep, she is surely a ‘mediocrity’. Now, since she has accomplished far more in life than you could ever imagine, can I tattoo a big ‘L’ on your forehead?
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Hitler accomplished more than anyone who posts here, and more than Palin, so what’s your point? She’s a mediocrity who could only accomplish what little she did in a state that is below mediocre. So she hasn’t accomplished more than I can imagine as I imagine someone with her “talent” accomplished all that she could and has gone as far as she can go. As far as the “L”, I would say save it for anyone who bought her books.

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[quote]Alpha F wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:

And for all we know if she got elected, she would quit in the middle of the term to go make money.[/quote]

That would be a first a President quitting to do a book tour
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True.
But knowing her character I’m betting it would cost the tax payer less than the 2 week holiday to Hawaii we just paid.

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Are you judging her character from her Governorship of AK ?