hi all ive been visiting this forum for a while now but this is my first post.
my stats are:height 5’8 weight around 185. been traning for around 4 years seriously for the last 2-3 after joining the military.
my question is with regards to two week cycles. i have just ran a tren ace 100 (eod) winny 50 (ed)
cycle which i gained well from.
i want to run test and tren for my next two weeker. i have tried prop before but i had to stop as the pain was crippling me and subsquently my training suffered,is test prop the only test suitable when running two weekers?
or is there an alternitive, cyp maybe? as i cant live with prop.
sorry for the long post, and thanks in advance for any help.
Yes, propionate is really the only testosterone ester to user for a 2 week cycle, other than the acetate ester which is not so commonly available.
It is NOT testosterone propionate itself which is painful. It is that many formulations of it are painful.
Dilute it to 50 mg/mL with Wesson oil and filter, and I really doubt you’d find it painful in the slightest.
It also may be the case that if you mixed it with your trenbolone acetate this would also solve the problem. I would do this by drawing the desired daily amount of each into a 3 mL syringe, pull in some air, invert several times till it seems mixed, and then using this syringe to fill insulin syringes used for the actual IM injections.
I have also been visiting the site for a while but never posted until now.
I want to run your 2 week cycle but was asking for advice on the choice of a stack.
Cost is a concern, but not the only concern.
I am 6’1’’ 247 lbs roughly 16% bodyfat. I am 25, I spent most of my time training for purely strength and power and it is only in the last 2 years that I have spent any serious thought into the aesthetics of body building.
I am trying to get and keep “the look” for the long haul.
I was considering an anadrol and tren ace 2 week stack, but I read that someone else who was responding with you had great success with an anadrol and winstrol 2 week stack.
If I go with the anadrol/tren is 100mg ED/100mg EOD sufficient?
What would your recommendations be with the andarol/win? Or not at all because arent they both class 2?
Sorry for being a longwinded newb, the other people I have asked have given me conflicting info…
You could use the same syringe, but two injections with a 1/2 inch 29 gauge insulin syringe are nicer than one injection with a 23 gauge 1 inch.
If comparing with a 25 gauge, then while the comparison becomes closer, the insulin pins allow a much greater choice of injection sites – for example, a vast number of possible locations on the thigh – than one typically chooses with a 25 gauge.
With daily injections, it’s nice having lots of sites available.
On Veritas’ questions: I don’t believe I ever said anything about combining Anadrol and Winstrol as the only anabolic steroids used. It may be Anadrol and oxandrolone you are thinking of. There, I found 75 mg/day of each to be effective. However this provides no source of estrogen. I didn’t have a problem where this was limited to only two weeks, but it probably is not the best way to go. This could be solved by taking some HCG, e.g. 200 IU per day, at the same time, or adding in some Dianabol, for example 5 mg 3x/day.
The same is true with Anadrol and trenbolone acetate.
It is effective to use trenbolone acetate at 50-100 mg/day (50 is a good choice for first use of trenbolone), and Anadrol could be 100 mg/day in divided doses. Same consideration with regard to using HCG or Dianabol.
Or one could just use Dianabol 50 mg/day instead of the Anadrol. In this case an antiaromatase would be a good idea, though a SERM could be used instead (Nolvadex or Clomid.)
You were not the one advocating anadrol/winstrol it was someone who was also responding on your post. And I was considering how wise that choice was…
I know that in the 2 week off periods I would use a SERM to kick start my test again, but if I were taking it during the 2 weeks on as well am I keeping it up the entire time then and are the dosages the same?
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
You could use the same syringe, but two injections with a 1/2 inch 29 gauge insulin syringe are nicer than one injection with a 23 gauge 1 inch.
If comparing with a 25 gauge, then while the comparison becomes closer, the insulin pins allow a much greater choice of injection sites – for example, a vast number of possible locations on the thigh – than one typically chooses with a 25 gauge.
With daily injections, it’s nice having lots of sites available.
On Veritas’ questions: I don’t believe I ever said anything about combining Anadrol and Winstrol as the only anabolic steroids used. It may be Anadrol and oxandrolone you are thinking of. There, I found 75 mg/day of each to be effective. However this provides no source of estrogen. I didn’t have a problem where this was limited to only two weeks, but it probably is not the best way to go. This could be solved by taking some HCG, e.g. 200 IU per day, at the same time, or adding in some Dianabol, for example 5 mg 3x/day.
The same is true with Anadrol and trenbolone acetate.
It is effective to use trenbolone acetate at 50-100 mg/day (50 is a good choice for first use of trenbolone), and Anadrol could be 100 mg/day in divided doses. Same consideration with regard to using HCG or Dianabol.
Or one could just use Dianabol 50 mg/day instead of the Anadrol. In this case an antiaromatase would be a good idea, though a SERM could be used instead (Nolvadex or Clomid.)
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ah i see! well thank you bill for taking the time out to help that makes sense now.
[quote]Veritas216 wrote:
I have also been visiting the site for a while but never posted until now.
I want to run your 2 week cycle but was asking for advice on the choice of a stack.
Cost is a concern, but not the only concern.
I am 6’1’’ 247 lbs roughly 16% bodyfat. I am 25, I spent most of my time training for purely strength and power and it is only in the last 2 years that I have spent any serious thought into the aesthetics of body building.
I am trying to get and keep “the look” for the long haul.
I was considering an anadrol and tren ace 2 week stack, but I read that someone else who was responding with you had great success with an anadrol and winstrol 2 week stack.
If I go with the anadrol/tren is 100mg ED/100mg EOD sufficient?
What would your recommendations be with the andarol/win? Or not at all because arent they both class 2?
Sorry for being a longwinded newb, the other people I have asked have given me conflicting info…
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i have ran anadrol/winistrol twice both at 100/50 for two weeks.
i rate the cycle highly when i came of i did no pct and didnt lose any noticable size or strengh.
im not the only one on this board who has done this cycle either.