[quote]heavythrower wrote:
i find it hilarious that you do not think that a Hispanic man who grew up in a city which is about 70% black and in college and as a young man dated primarily black women, and even married one and had two children with, somehow is disqualified from having anything to say in this matter.
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Snap.
I can say I’ve lived in Michigan my whole life and I have never heard any of these phrases before… and I’ve had black roommates. It might be a black-on-black thing, I really don’t know, but I highly doubt those are terms that are used around here - at all.[/quote]
Question…but why do you think guys would say that around you at all unless you would be considered familiar with it?
Guess what, most black dudes probably weren’t using “nigga” between themselves and other white guys as a purely neutral exchange of calling someone “man” or “bro” before possibly very recently.
These are terms I have heard my whole life but ONLY when around a bunch of other black dudes. It is not meant to be derogatory…and yeah, it is funny to see people outside the culture critiquing it and what it means.
To me, if you look at the female singing group TLC, “T-boz” was “yellow bone”. “Chili” was “red bone”. From where I grew up, it referred more to girls who looked like they were from Native American decent and black (red bone). T-boz should be obvious.[/quote]
Right. Like I said, I’m probably wrong and no, it doesn’t make sense that they would use it in exchanges with me. I did hear plenty of conversations about women during the time but the majority of women at our college were also white.
Out of genuine curiosity, not that I plan to use the terms, but if you were to hear a white person say them in general conversation would it be considered offensive?
Out of genuine curiosity, not that I plan to use the terms, but if you were to hear a white person say them in general conversation would it be considered offensive?[/quote]
Yeah, in a way, it would be because it is something I had always seen as just an acknowledgment of background of the person we are talking about. Just like this thread, it is very clear that some of you don’t really get it in the first place…making it insulting to use it outwardly especially if you get it wrong by region.
If I call a girl that speaking to one of my friends (this isn’t a regular term for me anyway) it is meant to just describe how the girl looked. In fact, it is usually meant in a very positive way.
I think it’s funny that some here consider being white meaning you’re “outside the culture”, or that calling a light skinned black girl “yellow boned” is offensive if you’re not black. Do I have to be black to listen to Teddy Pendergrass, or to enjoy I’m gonna get you sucka? Surprise surprise the same racist jackass who always stirs the pot brought his churner to the party.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
I think it’s funny that some here consider being white meaning you’re “outside the culture”, or that calling a light skinned black girl “yellow boned” is offensive if you’re not black. Do I have to be black to listen to Teddy Pendergrass, or to enjoy I’m gonna get you sucka? Surprise surprise the same racist jackass who always stirs the pot brought his churner to the party.[/quote]
No Worries the line is getting thinner every year. In 30 years 3/4 of the world will look like fine ass Puerto-Peacan-Redbones.
I just made that last line up feel free to use it and pass it around.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
I think it’s funny that some here consider being white meaning you’re “outside the culture”, or that calling a light skinned black girl “yellow boned” is offensive if you’re not black. Do I have to be black to listen to Teddy Pendergrass, or to enjoy I’m gonna get you sucka? Surprise surprise the same racist jackass who always stirs the pot brought his churner to the party.[/quote]
No Worries the line is getting thinner every year. In 30 years 3/4 of the world will look like fine ass Puerto-Peacan-Redbones.
I just made that last line up feel free to use it and pass it around.[/quote]
man, I wish I was 30 years younger so I could enjoy that when it comes…sigh
Out of genuine curiosity, not that I plan to use the terms, but if you were to hear a white person say them in general conversation would it be considered offensive?[/quote]
Yeah, in a way, it would be because it is something I had always seen as just an acknowledgment of background of the person we are talking about. Just like this thread, it is very clear that some of you don’t really get it in the first place…making it insulting to use it outwardly especially if you get it wrong by region.
If I call a girl that speaking to one of my friends (this isn’t a regular term for me anyway) it is meant to just describe how the girl looked. In fact, it is usually meant in a very positive way.[/quote]
I kind of agree, I would feel uncomfortable going up to an attractive black girl and to start conversation with “whats up red/ damn your a fine ass redbone” etc.
not sure why, it just feels creepy or weird somehow.
while we are on the subject, I was pretty oblivious to the sort of INTRArracial discrimination that goes on among black people in this country until I married and lived with a black woman for 7 years.
I know the subject was explored in an old Spike Lee movie, the title escapes me, and I remember kinda going “whut-?” “I dont get it” after I watched the film.
After having a few serious relationships with black women, it really opened my eyes.
some of the stuff my ex would say(she would be considered a redbone) was pretty cold and raw…
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
while we are on the subject, I was pretty oblivious to the sort of INTRArracial discrimination that goes on among black people in this country until I married and lived with a black woman for 7 years.
I know the subject was explored in an old Spike Lee movie, the title escapes me, and I remember kinda going “whut-?” “I dont get it” after I watched the film.
After having a few serious relationships with black women, it really opened my eyes.
some of the stuff my ex would say(she would be considered a redbone) was pretty cold and raw…[/quote]
I wont repeat some of the stuff that really was uncomfortable hearing, not on the open forums, but if you want to know what I am talking about I can PM you, would be interesting to hear a black mans perspective on this.
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
not sure if it was “crazy”…just real, well, REAL.
I wont repeat some of the stuff that really was uncomfortable hearing, not on the open forums, but if you want to know what I am talking about I can PM you, would be interesting to hear a black mans perspective on this.[/quote]
Whatever you do, Don’t ask a sista. Trust me on this one. You’ll get 2000 dif answers. If you want to know about a black woman, your best shot is to ask a older black woman. They shoot straight from the hip and are less guarded. Meaning they won’t take your question as an attack. Ummmm yeah this goes for my Latin sistas also.
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
not sure if it was “crazy”…just real, well, REAL.
I wont repeat some of the stuff that really was uncomfortable hearing, not on the open forums, but if you want to know what I am talking about I can PM you, would be interesting to hear a black mans perspective on this.[/quote]
Whatever you do, Don’t ask a sista. Trust me on this one. You’ll get 2000 dif answers. If you want to know about a black woman, your best shot is to ask a older black woman. They shoot straight from the hip and are less guarded. Meaning they won’t take your question as an attack. Ummmm yeah this goes for my Latin sistas also. [/quote]
Latinas are super feisty and will pick an argument at the drop of a hat, anywhere. Home, the store, church during the message, christmas dinner… they fuck just as passionatly though. I don’t care if I am lumping them by race, it’s true.
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
i find it hilarious that you do not think that a Hispanic man who grew up in a city which is about 70% black and in college and as a young man dated primarily black women, and even married one and had two children with, somehow is disqualified from having anything to say in this matter.
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You got WAY too defensive. You aren’t a white male and you have dated and married black women. You are obviously not who I was referring to.
I also find it hilarious that the white guys I was referring to saw the inherent humor in the situation and you didn’t. Lighten up… seriously.
[quote]four60 wrote:
Origins the South. (not sure what part)
Not sure what group started it white ref to black or Black ref to each other but it came from the south.
Red Bone - Light Skinned
High Yellow- really Light skinned
Black Bone(never heard of that Shyt)
But like all slang it morphed from region to region. Like In BKLYN we use to call a girl with nice round butt “Thick” or she’s packin “junk in the trunk” but then it left the area an now any chick with a wide ass uses the phrase.
Sigh but it’s lies all lies alas your ass is not thick…just wide. Tear.[/quote]