[quote]jbodzin wrote:
Anybody know anything about this product and if it really is safe to use in the oven / microwave?
http://www.asseenontv.com/prod-pages/smartware_16pc_silicone_bakeware_set.html?gid=KITCHEN
I watched the whole info-mercial for it, but they never addressed this issue.
Anyone?[/quote]
what would you need that for? plannin on making some lovely pastries soon?
I have an interesting take on this.
My father works in the paper industry. Basically his job is to design paper containers for milk, juices and stuff like that.
He is completely against plastic containers for anything. He refuses to buy any. Whether it be a gallon of milk or juice or anything. At first I thought to myself well he just does this because he is in the paper business. Why uses someone elses product. Until I asked him why he doesn’t like plastic.
Over the last 20 years working he has done some very intersting product comparasion of paper vs plastic. The main thing that scares the shit out of him is the so called fusion of plastic containers to food. Basically food or drinks taking on plastic flavor and the very minut breakdown of plastic when in contact with food. That we in turn consume when we drink out of plastic.
He never went into to much depth but he simply said, son I would rather have you buy a glass container then a plastic one. You don’t want to know what shit your taking into your body with that crap.
I hardly drink out of plastic now.
[quote]relativelyfunguy wrote:
jbodzin wrote:
Anybody know anything about this product and if it really is safe to use in the oven / microwave?
http://www.asseenontv.com/prod-pages/smartware_16pc_silicone_bakeware_set.html?gid=KITCHEN
I watched the whole info-mercial for it, but they never addressed this issue.
Anyone?
what would you need that for? plannin on making some lovely pastries soon?
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Yes…lol
Jk, no but I do cook my own meals and need some new pansa nd stuff and this is cheap, light, and practical.
Apparently the name of the material is TemperFlex Silicone.
Anyone have any info regarding this material and if it is indeed safe from Xenoestrogens?
[quote]ubl0 wrote:
why, is the non-toxic vegetable ink going to leech out and kill us. seriously, this scare tactic shit is bothering me, don’t heat the damn things, end of story. use LDPE, HDPE and PP. these are the main containers most foods come in anyway. if you want to use glass and save money, just save up jars or go buy a box of mason jars or something.
After all it is a lot easier to worry about xenoestrogens than eating processed grains, processed fats and sugars, because then we don’t have to change our feeding behavior, but we do get feel like we are doing something about it.[/quote]
hehe didn’t mean to get you so upset… I don’t know about you but I don’t eat all that processed junk anyway. I do bring 2-3 meals to work with me every day. I have always used my trusty tupperware containers. The original article about the xenoestrogens made me think hard about changing to glass. But, it was just too convenient to continue to use the plastic. This new stuff form Johns Hopkins about the possibility of cancer pushed me to reconsider and buy glass containers. I will not heat anything in plastic again. Thought it might be helpful to others who were not quite convinced.
Train hard, Kaaizen
[quote]five-twelve wrote:
I hardly drink out of plastic now.[/quote]
That’s the hardest part for me. Not eating out of plastic is fairly easily done. Not drinking out of it is MUCH tougher. Water is always (?) sold in plastic. Even my brita water filter is made of plastic.
Kaaizen
The John Hopkins letter is an urban legend.
However, I still avoid plastics all I can.
I think it is pretty easy. Don’t heat in plastic. Don’t sweat the rest of it.
[quote]4est wrote:
The John Hopkins letter is an urban legend.
However, I still avoid plastics all I can.[/quote]
Do you actually believe this crap that you read?The second Iclick on the link I got pop ups for drugs.
Drug companies will do anything to debunk herbs,natural remedies,etc.
“Pharmaceutical companies routinely travel to the jungles to seek native cures. They modify traditional herbal remedies to create prescription drugs.”
Drug companies don’t use herbs to cure or treat disease.
The last thing they want are natural cures.
That would put them out of business.
Olive oil soap or aloe vera soap doesn’t contain phytoestrogens.
I’ve been using that and aloe soap for a while now and I’ve never got any “man boobs”.
You really should quit believeing every single thing you read.
[quote]Kailash wrote:
Cthulhu wrote:
If I’m at the store,I’ll buy some natural mint toothpaste or olive/tee tree soap,or lemon grass shampoo.
Dude, bad news for ya… Tea tree oil has phytoestrogens (so too lavender oil):
relativelyfunguy wrote:
Well I don’t heat anything up anyways, just grill all my chicken for the week and put it in plastic containers, then eat the chicken cold (nasty and no taste, but i don’t care about taste).
I do the same thing too, cold chicken! We’re a couple sick bastards, ain’t we… Anyways, make sure your chicken has cooled to room temp before putting it in those plastic containers.
Also, I’d been using a plastic turkey baster on my weekly, roasted whole chicken. Then I realized, “WTF am I doing!”, putting scalding chicken grease into a xenoestrogen tube then shooting it all over the bird. Lol at that![/quote]
[quote]Cthulhu wrote:
Do you actually believe this crap that you read?The second Iclick on the link I got pop ups for drugs.
Drug companies will do anything to debunk herbs,natural remedies,etc.
…[/quote]
There is a link straight to the Johns Hopkins site. The researcher himself says the email is full of shit.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
I think it is pretty easy. Don’t heat in plastic. Don’t sweat the rest of it.[/quote]
finally someone who understands how windmills work!
kaaizen, not snapping at you, just silliness in general.
[quote]Cthulhu wrote:
Do you actually believe this crap that you read?The second Iclick on the link I got pop ups for drugs.
Drug companies will do anything to debunk herbs,natural remedies,etc.
“Pharmaceutical companies routinely travel to the jungles to seek native cures. They modify traditional herbal remedies to create prescription drugs.”
Drug companies don’t use herbs to cure or treat disease.
The last thing they want are natural cures.
That would put them out of business.
Olive oil soap or aloe vera soap doesn’t contain phytoestrogens.
I’ve been using that and aloe soap for a while now and I’ve never got any “man boobs”.
You really should quit believeing every single thing you read.
Kailash wrote:
Cthulhu wrote:
If I’m at the store,I’ll buy some natural mint toothpaste or olive/tee tree soap,or lemon grass shampoo.
Dude, bad news for ya… Tea tree oil has phytoestrogens (so too lavender oil):
relativelyfunguy wrote:
Well I don’t heat anything up anyways, just grill all my chicken for the week and put it in plastic containers, then eat the chicken cold (nasty and no taste, but i don’t care about taste).
I do the same thing too, cold chicken! We’re a couple sick bastards, ain’t we… Anyways, make sure your chicken has cooled to room temp before putting it in those plastic containers.
Also, I’d been using a plastic turkey baster on my weekly, roasted whole chicken. Then I realized, “WTF am I doing!”, putting scalding chicken grease into a xenoestrogen tube then shooting it all over the bird. Lol at that!
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Your logic is flawed. You say you use olive oil soap, and aloe vera soap, and you don’t have man boobs.
Well, I use Dial, and I use irish spring. And I don’t have man boobs. So, by your reasoning, Dial and Irish Spring don’t contain phytoestrogens. Sorry, but your logic seems flawed to me, even if your conclusions are correct.
Growing up, in the summer times I would have to bale hay. My family, we would always fill up old milk jugs with water. We would freeze them overnight, and in the morning take them with us. I would set my milk jug on the floorboard on my tractor, (not enclosed, an old-fashioned open air rig) and the floorboard would get warm from the sun and the engine, and it would melt the ice. And I would go through about 2 gallons a day, I tried to drink as much as I could, I thought it was healthy.
Same thing hauling the bales in, but the water stayed in the truck. It still got warm and melted though. So basically, the water froze in plastic, and then was heated and melted in plastic. There is no way to tell how much xenoestrogens I consumed in the summer time.
[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
Growing up, in the summer times I would have to bale hay. My family, we would always fill up old milk jugs with water. We would freeze them overnight, and in the morning take them with us. I would set my milk jug on the floorboard on my tractor, (not enclosed, an old-fashioned open air rig) and the floorboard would get warm from the sun and the engine, and it would melt the ice. And I would go through about 2 gallons a day, I tried to drink as much as I could, I thought it was healthy.
Same thing hauling the bales in, but the water stayed in the truck. It still got warm and melted though. So basically, the water froze in plastic, and then was heated and melted in plastic. There is no way to tell how much xenoestrogens I consumed in the summer time.[/quote]
you say some of the dumbest stuff, but i don’t really mind.
[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
Cthulhu wrote:
Do you actually believe this crap that you read?The second Iclick on the link I got pop ups for drugs.
Drug companies will do anything to debunk herbs,natural remedies,etc.
“Pharmaceutical companies routinely travel to the jungles to seek native cures. They modify traditional herbal remedies to create prescription drugs.”
Drug companies don’t use herbs to cure or treat disease.
The last thing they want are natural cures.
That would put them out of business.
Olive oil soap or aloe vera soap doesn’t contain phytoestrogens.
I’ve been using that and aloe soap for a while now and I’ve never got any “man boobs”.
You really should quit believeing every single thing you read.
Kailash wrote:
Cthulhu wrote:
If I’m at the store,I’ll buy some natural mint toothpaste or olive/tee tree soap,or lemon grass shampoo.
Dude, bad news for ya… Tea tree oil has phytoestrogens (so too lavender oil):
relativelyfunguy wrote:
Well I don’t heat anything up anyways, just grill all my chicken for the week and put it in plastic containers, then eat the chicken cold (nasty and no taste, but i don’t care about taste).
I do the same thing too, cold chicken! We’re a couple sick bastards, ain’t we… Anyways, make sure your chicken has cooled to room temp before putting it in those plastic containers.
Also, I’d been using a plastic turkey baster on my weekly, roasted whole chicken. Then I realized, “WTF am I doing!”, putting scalding chicken grease into a xenoestrogen tube then shooting it all over the bird. Lol at that!
Your logic is flawed. You say you use olive oil soap, and aloe vera soap, and you don’t have man boobs.
Well, I use Dial, and I use irish spring. And I don’t have man boobs. So, by your reasoning, Dial and Irish Spring don’t contain phytoestrogens. Sorry, but your logic seems flawed to me, even if your conclusions are correct.[/quote]
How is it flawed?
I was making a point.
The point being you shouldn’t believe everything you read.
I said olive oil soap and aloe vera soap doesn’t contain phytoestrogens;
and that I use it and I don’t have any man boobs.
How does olive oil contain phytoestrogens?
Now,maybe commercial soap does.
How is that flawed?
Maybe if you learned how to read the world would be .1 % a better place.
[quote]relativelyfunguy wrote:
BarneyFife wrote:
Growing up, in the summer times I would have to bale hay. My family, we would always fill up old milk jugs with water. We would freeze them overnight, and in the morning take them with us. I would set my milk jug on the floorboard on my tractor, (not enclosed, an old-fashioned open air rig) and the floorboard would get warm from the sun and the engine, and it would melt the ice. And I would go through about 2 gallons a day, I tried to drink as much as I could, I thought it was healthy.
Same thing hauling the bales in, but the water stayed in the truck. It still got warm and melted though. So basically, the water froze in plastic, and then was heated and melted in plastic. There is no way to tell how much xenoestrogens I consumed in the summer time.
you say some of the dumbest stuff, but i don’t really mind. [/quote]
I don’t understand what I said that was so dumb. Please, elaborate, lest I continue along the narrow road of ingnorance.
[quote]Cthulhu wrote:
Olive oil soap or aloe vera soap doesn’t contain phytoestrogens.
I’ve been using that and aloe soap for a while now and I’ve never got any “man boobs”.
It sounded like to me tht you were saying that because you don’t have man boobs, that olive oil soap does not contain estrogen.
I don’t have man-boobs, therefore irish spring doesn’t have estrogen.
I thought that was the logic you were using. Pardon me if I incorrect.
[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
Cthulhu wrote:
Olive oil soap or aloe vera soap doesn’t contain phytoestrogens.
I’ve been using that and aloe soap for a while now and I’ve never got any “man boobs”.
It sounded like to me tht you were saying that because you don’t have man boobs, that olive oil soap does not contain estrogen.
I don’t have man-boobs, therefore irish spring doesn’t have estrogen.
I thought that was the logic you were using. Pardon me if I incorrect.[/quote]
I was making an educated remark denoting the fact that olive oil does not contain phytoestrogens,therefore it cannot give me man-boobs.
So,based on the fact that olive oil does not contain any phytoestrogens,I made my remark based on that fact.
Unlike you,you cannot make such a statement because many commercial soaps probably do contain them.
[quote]Cthulhu wrote:
BarneyFife wrote:
Cthulhu wrote:
Olive oil soap or aloe vera soap doesn’t contain phytoestrogens.
I’ve been using that and aloe soap for a while now and I’ve never got any “man boobs”.
It sounded like to me tht you were saying that because you don’t have man boobs, that olive oil soap does not contain estrogen.
I don’t have man-boobs, therefore irish spring doesn’t have estrogen.
I thought that was the logic you were using. Pardon me if I incorrect.
I was making an educated remark denoting the fact that olive oil does not contain phytoestrogens,therefore it cannot give me man-boobs.
So,based on the fact that olive oil does not contain any phytoestrogens,I made my remark based on that fact.
Unlike you,you cannot make such a statement because many commercial soaps probably do contain them.[/quote]
Real men use LAVA soap. (that green shit that they chop up sand paper and put in it)
Kidding about that.
[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
relativelyfunguy wrote:
BarneyFife wrote:
Growing up, in the summer times I would have to bale hay. My family, we would always fill up old milk jugs with water. We would freeze them overnight, and in the morning take them with us. I would set my milk jug on the floorboard on my tractor, (not enclosed, an old-fashioned open air rig) and the floorboard would get warm from the sun and the engine, and it would melt the ice. And I would go through about 2 gallons a day, I tried to drink as much as I could, I thought it was healthy.
Same thing hauling the bales in, but the water stayed in the truck. It still got warm and melted though. So basically, the water froze in plastic, and then was heated and melted in plastic. There is no way to tell how much xenoestrogens I consumed in the summer time.
you say some of the dumbest stuff, but i don’t really mind.
I don’t understand what I said that was so dumb. Please, elaborate, lest I continue along the narrow road of ingnorance.
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just reminds me of napoleon dynamite or something.