X-Men Origins: Wolverine Official Thread

Man I am kinda bummed for such low reviews for this movie. It seems like with the addition of the cool effects CGI has to offer, there must be some unwritten rule that the storyline must suck ass.

I don’t think this is in anyway a spoiler but just in case SPOILER ALERT

I am admittedly a BIG Deadpool fan. My favorite “mutant” by far (ok; I get he’s not really a mutant but whatever he is clearly an “X” character so bite me). I watched the sneak preview giddy about finally seeing the merc with a mouth on the big screen. I was devastated to say the least to see what they did with such a promising character.

But putting that bias aside, i felt the movie lacked pathos. I did not care about any of the characters at all. ANd I’m a big fan of Wolverine, so thats saying something. I understand that a movie is only an interpretation of the comic books and I have no issues with a director taking certain liberties with the source material for the sake of the time constraints inherent in a motion picture. But in this case it was done in such an abhorrent manner that I felt like the director took a piss on the entire 30 year history of wolverine. The changes made for the film didn’t just didn’t work for me during the movie. In what I felt was a recurring theme in the film I felt that the changes felt “forced” and actually detracted from what happens to be one of the best origins in comics.

Before anyone accuses me of being a fanboy, if I were to judge the movie free of the source material, and solely on its self contained story I would give it a c. The opening credits were done amazingly. The idea of the story was interesting and the action sequences were good. The storyline dragged in many parts and felt rushed in others. The climax and conclusion felt contrived and forced. I say rent it or wait for it to be on HBO.

I wasnt going to do this but it has been bothering me since I saw the movie so, once again: SPOILER ALERT…

YOU TOOK THE MERC WITH A MOUTH AND SEWED HIS MOUTH SHUT!!! Kantana blades for arms!!! Laser beams coming out of his eyes??? WHAT? This was one of the worst adaptations of comic book source material to the big screen I’ve seen since Wanted! And at least Wanted didnt even claim to attempt to make a movie for fans of the comic book. What makes me the most upset about this movie is the fact that they claimed it was a movie for the fans when it clearly was not. END OF RANT.

I’m sorry guys, I’ve been holding that in since i saw the movie. I tried to tell my girlfriend, but she just laughed at me and called me a nerd.

I was really let down by Deadpool’s character. He’s in the first 5 minutes of the movie and the last 5. And to echo the above poster’s sentiments, those last 5 minutes of Deadpool were f’ing retarded.

There were just way way too many dumb things in this movie to cover it all so lets just do some obvious ones. (spoilers)

Adamantium is supposed to be unbreakable, and totally inert on a molecular level and yet Cyclops optic blasts made it get red hot.

Cyclops’ optic blasts are supposed to be pure force, not heat. Singer got it right, Gavin Hood did not.

Wolverine actually blocked the beam with his claws, which is damn stupid when anything else gets hit with that beam it’s blown away.
Somehow his claws just cancelled out physics and everything I guess.

So they faked Silver Fox’s death huh? Ummm how did Wolverine not know that? You can’t “cheat” Wolverine’s senses. He would detect the deception instantly. Weak plot device.

When did Gambit get the power of being able to make small earth quakes with his stick? Neat o

The movie version of the Blob was super lame. In the comics he is actually pretty bad ass.

Wouldn’t Wolverine’s healing power fix his brain, and restore his memories? In the comics whenever Wolverine puts his claws thru Sabertooth’s brain (two or three times), it takes him a while but he recovers everything, memories included.

How did injecting hot metal into Wolverine’s body make it stick strictly to the bones? Wouldn’t it burn though to other areas? Of course it would… And how did knotty unsharp bone claws become keenly honed swordlike blades? When did that happen?

Couldn’t they have found some way to explain that stuff? Maybe they knew it was a dumb movie so why bother.

It’s really interesting that between the events of Wolverine and those of X men 1 Sabertooth’s hair turned blonde, his eyes turned colors and his claws and teeth got longer. Amazing.

Soooooo… Deadpool had bone - swords in his forearms all his life and didn’t know it? And how did DP’s severed head say shhhhhh with out any lungs to expel the air?

What exactly was it that made Wolverine quit the mutant merc squad that particular night? Your telling me that was the FIRST time that bunch killed innocent people? Not likely. Or did Logan just suddenly realize that he gave a damn? The didn’t elaboratE but all that was way too rushed and didn’t make much sense.

Call me a fanboy if you want, I don’t care. I did grow up reading Marvel which is why it bothers me when they make crap movies with stuff I used to like.
So what i am getting at is that it’s not simply different from the comic. It’s also not as good. It makes less sense, it’s not a s good a story, and it’s a shame because the real story is a really good one.

I don’t mind them making changes if they are good ones or necessary somehow. But over and beyond that it was just bad. Bad story, bad dialogue, mountains of cliche’s. Does that make me a hater? It actually makes me a LOVER of GOOD movies.

I saw this movie. I call it a tragedy.

I enjoyed it, but it was a shadow of what it could have been.

I was really put-off by the CGI effects. The scene where Wolverine is navel-gazing in the farmer’s bathroom? No depth or shadow on the blades, no insertion points in the skin. It looked like they photoshopped it in there. Amateurish. I realize I probably couldn’t do better, but I’m not a highly-paid CGI artist. I’ve seen better.

Honestly, I’d kind of hoped that X-MEN ORIGINS: WOLVERINE would be everything that’s hopped through in the opening 90 second montage. THAT was a bummer.

I’m a sucker for plot twists. I liked what they did with Starfox, or 20thCenturyFox, or SilverFox, or whatever her name was. The way they brought her back. I liked the way they brought Creed back in towards the end.

The last, major thing that I found notable in the movie is the film-convention that ‘not killing people’ makes you a hero. Twice in the story, main characters are given a shot to kill the bad guy, and they refuse to, believing that letting bad guys live is the higher moral path.

This struck me as hollywood bullshit, and is retarded on a level I haven’t seen since I fast-forwarded through ‘I AM SAM’.

I never followed the comics or cartoons.

I thought it was a good movie, some of you people are fricken nit-picky, lol.

[quote]Otep wrote:

I was really put-off by the CGI effects. The scene where Wolverine is navel-gazing in the farmer’s bathroom? No depth or shadow on the blades, no insertion points in the skin. It looked like they photoshopped it in there. Amateurish. I realize I probably couldn’t do better, but I’m not a highly-paid CGI artist. I’ve seen better.
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I noticed the exact same thing. It looked incredibly cheap.

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
I never followed the comics or cartoons.

I thought it was a good movie, some of you people are fricken nit-picky, lol.[/quote]

If you had ever followed the comics and/or cartoons,you wouldn’t be so quick to come to that conclusion…trust me.

Spoiler alert just in case.

Well, I thought this movie was terrible. Sure it had some action in it that was kind of cool, mostly in the first 10 minutes of the movie where they showed all the wars. My question how the hell did no one notice that these two guys have been in the military since the civil war and never age? I mean the fought in ww1 and ww2 and no one noticed. The never got promoted? Bull shit. The Cgi was done pretty poorly and I feel that they should have gotten the team that did the cgi for the watchmen to do theirs. I mean fox got a fuck load of money from the watchmen so they could afford it.

The plot was poorly done in no way would wolverine not notice that his wife was dead. I mean sure he would want vengeance but wouldn’t he also want to see his wife buried? My biggest question, how did his skeleton only bind to the metal? And me being a strength athlete had to wonder, if some one just put the strongest metal on my skeleton what are the odds that I would be able to move? His muscle in no way to get that much strong in that short of a time. I can’t believed they killed the old couple fuck the makers for doing that.

Dead pool, thank god he had such a small talking roll I would have left if I had to listen to Ryan Reynolds talk for the whole movie. The weapon xi was gay, like really gay. If he had swords in his arms how the hell can he bend them with out having the swords out? I know this is a comic book movie but come on. Why do sabertooth and wolverine hate each other? Isn’t wolverine a killer? He doesn’t have claws for nothing. Oh and when he cut the fire escape to size that is the gays thing ever. Oh and I think he would regain his memories when he heals I mean come on isn’t that what wolverine does heal himself back into better shape? Didn’t professor x wipe out his memories?
Lastly gambit was poorly done they could have found a guy that looks more Cajun and sounds more Cajuns than that emo fag looking dude. His fight scene were kind of cool to see.

Anyway is it worth seeing? I guess if you have to wait till its in the cheap theaters.

[quote]AllerCuzine wrote:
Dead pool, thank god he had such a small talking roll I would have left if I had to listen to Ryan Reynolds talk for the whole movie.
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Unfortunately,his “small talking role” was the best dialogue in the movie…I take you’re not familiar with Deadpool at all.

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
AllerCuzine wrote:
Dead pool, thank god he had such a small talking roll I would have left if I had to listen to Ryan Reynolds talk for the whole movie.

Unfortunately,his “small talking role” was the best dialogue in the movie…I take you’re not familiar with Deadpool at all.[/quote]

Not true. There were some good one-liners:

Striker: Your country needs you.
Logan: I’m Canadian.

(Logan stares at toilet porcelain he just Ginsu-2000’d)
Logan: I promise I’ll pay for that.

Sabertooth: You have insurance for this place?
Barman: …no.
Sabertooth: oh well.

[quote]Otep wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
AllerCuzine wrote:
Dead pool, thank god he had such a small talking roll I would have left if I had to listen to Ryan Reynolds talk for the whole movie.

Unfortunately,his “small talking role” was the best dialogue in the movie…I take you’re not familiar with Deadpool at all.

Not true. There were some good one-liners:

Striker: Your country needs you.
Logan: I’m Canadian.

(Logan stares at toilet porcelain he just Ginsu-2000’d)
Logan: I promise I’ll pay for that.

Sabertooth: You have insurance for this place?
Barman: …no.
Sabertooth: oh well.[/quote]

well,I was being a little facetious and biased. Ryan Reynolds nailed Deadpool in 5-10 minutes of dialogue…I wanted more.

Oh…and thanks for the blogs…awesome reads…especially the whole “Korean War” issue.

Yes indeed I am familiar with deadpool and its yet another reason why I was happy there was not more of him.
Become the animal. Embrace the other side was the best quote man cuz that is a bad ass power lifting/strongman/bb/weightlifting quote.
That and
All the horrible things in your life… Your father, the wars, I can make all this go away. You can live knowing that the woman you loved was hunted down, or you can join me. I promise you will have your revenge.
Stryker didn’t lie to wolverine he told him he would make it all go away just erasing his memory wasn’t what wolverine thought he meant.

[quote]Otep wrote:

The last, major thing that I found notable in the movie is the film-convention that ‘not killing people’ makes you a hero. Twice in the story, main characters are given a shot to kill the bad guy, and they refuse to, believing that letting bad guys live is the higher moral path.

This struck me as hollywood bullshit, and is retarded on a level I haven’t seen since I fast-forwarded through ‘I AM SAM’.[/quote]

Precisely my fucking sentiments.

I am really disappointed at how they butchered Deadpool. I figured STAN FUCKING LEE being part of the production would mean some faithfulness to original comics, but NO.

Deadpool was SO butchered that I was scratching my head thinking, “Ok, was that part of the original character? I’m pretty sure it wasn’t.”

What. The. Fuck.

I still maintain that Iron Man has been the most polished, most enjoyable comic book movie thus far. Favreau did not fuck it up and was a good sport to take into consideration that so many fans were wetting themselves over the release. Favreau did not let the fans down.

STAN FUCKING LEE let fans down (I’m sure others are to blame) on this one.

What “Origin” movie could be next? I can only think of a hybrid Magneto/Professor X (white, not black) film. We also need to see Omega Red at some point.

Why didn’t Gambit have more of a role? They made him out to be some teenager-looking character (my impression). What the fuck, he makes earthquakes happen? Really?

And was “John” really Bishop? I wasn’t sure…

The “force of one” and Otep really summed up how I felt about this movie.

And what the fuck is up with SHITTY dialogue, predictable one-liners?

Come on!

Again, I thought the dialogue in Iron Man was damn near impeccable, but the dialogue in this film was garbage.

Why was Ryan Reynolds cast as Deadpool?!#@($&)

Wolverine was just too “soft.” They should have showed him in his rage, and only tempered it toward the end of the film (very end).

Violence needs to be cold-blooded, which is why I’m so glad I watched “Taken” a few hours after Wolverine. That was a necessary to detox the Hollywood garbage of Wolverine.

I am pissed after seeing the movie, or rather TRYING to see the movie.

A lady and her son talked non-stop, literally every 5 minutes. It was really fucking annoying - like I pay to go to a movie and listen to a woman and her kid talk non-stop. I asked them politely to be quiet 3 times, which she took as a cue to talk even more. I finally left because I was getting so pissed I did not want to lose it on her, especially in front of everyone in a crowded theatre - I would definately look the asshole.

But of what I saw I liked. I stayed up to the point that the old people on the farm got killed by the helicopter. I know I could have used some anger control, but her rudeness was just pushing my buttons wrong and I decided to leave instead of being the asshole. Anyway…I don’t plan on a superhero movie being completely believable - I expect to suspend reality a bit. I never nitpick an action super hero movie - I know that things will happen that would not happen in real life. Who knows, maybe they do something to the Adamantium that makes it ionically attach to calcium and not to the high K+ or NA+ that is found in muscle or other soft tissue-so that it stays contained in the bone.

Jackman looked great. Yeah…I know Ron Coleman looks better blah blah blah. But he looked great. The guy is in his 40’s, I don’t think he is taking anything anabolic - and looked great.

I assumed Wolverines character quit the night of the mission because of the fact the man refused to let them know where the meteorite was because he felt it was sacred - killing does not bother Wolverine, but he is basically a good guy and has a sensitivity to people who have a sense of right and wrong, good and evil. The man who knew where the meteor was denied revealing where it was out of a sense of moral responsbility and Wolverine respected that.

[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
And what the fuck is up with SHITTY dialogue, predictable one-liners?

Come on!

Again, I thought the dialogue in Iron Man was damn near impeccable, but the dialogue in this film was garbage.

Why was Ryan Reynolds cast as Deadpool?!#@($&)[/quote]

For limited screen time and 5-10 minutes of dialogue…I think he did just fine. You already addressed the real problems with Deadpool…casting Reynolds wasn’t one of them.

reynolds was actually perfect for dead pool. cant think of anyone else built like him, or has the smart-ass attitude. i agree 100% with big boss. but the movie left out alot and added shit that just wasnt true, especially the process of turning logan into weapon X. the process was much longer than 5 mins, it actually took weeks and during the process they erased his memory.

I’ve never read the comics and still thought it was just average.

Spoiler alert:
The one part that was so damn cheezy was when they were about to put the adamante, or however you spell it, in him and Striker asks what name he wants on his new tags and he goes “Wolverine!”. Lame!!

[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
I’ve never read the comics and still thought it was just average.

Spoiler alert:
The one part that was so damn cheezy was when they were about to put the adamante, or however you spell it, in him and Striker asks what name he wants on his new tags and he goes “Wolverine!”. Lame!![/quote]

It was cheezy, but I think it worked. I’m pretty certain none of that ‘coo-coo-cachoo’ story is Marvel Cannon, but they had to fit the word ‘Wolverine’ into the story somehow. I thought they did a pretty good job of doing it smoothly.