X-Men: Evolution Seasons 1-3 on YouTube

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Pootie Tang wrote:
While im at it. If you guys aren’t Watching the Spectacular Spider-man kill yourselves, because that is THE BEST rendition of the Spiderman mythos ever to be on film or TV. I say that with out hyperbole.

This is truth…and Spectacular Spiderman may just be the best animated version of him yet created as far as story telling. They could do better with the art work in my opinion,[/quote]The simplified artwork is a cost saving technique. The simpler the art, the easier it is to animate. Most cartoons that animate well are broadly drawn, while the more detailed art from shows such as the '90s X-Men and Spider-Man cartoons were horribly animated. With a TV budget, it would cost too much to put in the time and effort for animating detailed characters fluidly.[quote]but they make up for it by actually getting into these characters more. The Venom episodes really got into his head and the episode where he used his belief in family and those close to him to finally beat the thing in his head was pretty powerful.
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Spectacular Spider-Man is in danger of being cancelled. Season 3 has not been greenlit yet, pending review of how season 2 fares on television and how well the season 1 DVDs have sold. Season 2 is on Disney XD and Season 1 has been released as a 2 disk box set for 20 USD at amazon.com. Y’know, in case anyone wanted to support the show.

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All the seasons are on marvel.com including season 4

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OK, so I’m through Season 2.

Some of the previous posts were correct: Season 1 was relatively light weight in terms of real plot or deep character development, but necessary to introduce most of the main characters for the series. I’m not as familiar with X-Men canon as many of you, so I was not disappointed with the story lines. I gave the writers the benefit of the doubt given that the setting is the mutants in their early teen years. Apparently, from just some quick researching, they tried to keep somewhat close to the origins of the characters, just a little tweaked to accommodate the highschool setting.

Question: In other XMen series, is it generally accepted that they all knew each other so young-- that is, the core group (cyclops, Jean Grey, etc) and ‘the brotherhood’, or in other canons, did they meet later?

Given Season 1, Season 2 I thought started out a little too light. I didn’t think it really got down and dirty until toward the end of the season. The last few episodes with the return of Mystique and the introduction of Scarlet Witch really went to the next level.

Question for the Wolverine fanatics-- Is it generally accepted that Wolverine was in WWII with Captain America, or was that just a scenario to cameo Capt. America and show Magneto’s childhood? In the episode, Professor X (animated mutant, not T-Nation mutant) was genuinely surprised that Wolverine was that old.

Starting Season 3 this evening.

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[quote]SteelyD wrote:
Apparently, from just some quick researching, they tried to keep somewhat close to the origins of the characters, just a little tweaked to accommodate the highschool setting.

Question: In other XMen series, is it generally accepted that they all knew each other so young-- that is, the core group (cyclops, Jean Grey, etc) and ‘the brotherhood’, or in other canons, did they meet later?[/quote]

The only true solid base of history is that Jean and Cyclops were his first students. Beast, Storm and Angel came right afterwards. Everything else is up in the air and changing depending on what writers are telling the story.

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Question for the Wolverine fanatics-- Is it generally accepted that Wolverine was in WWII with Captain America, or was that just a scenario to cameo Capt. America and show Magneto’s childhood? In the episode, Professor X (animated mutant, not T-Nation mutant) was genuinely surprised that Wolverine was that old.

Starting Season 3 this evening.[/quote]

I have seen scenarios whee Captain America worked with Wolverine on one mission so if they wanted to, they could bring many of these guys together later. Professor X just plays stupid about Wolverine’s past because he believes the human mind is too fragile to hit him with the truth without him figuring most of it out for himself. Most of Professor X’s actions seem to be to get Wolverine to find this out for himself.

The truth is, they didn’t have his whole story hammered out for many years. I truly wonder if any other character has successfully held off on telling a true origin story for as long as they did.

It would be like just finding out Superman was from Krypton in the year 2009.

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[quote]SteelyD wrote:
OK, so I’m through Season 2.

Some of the previous posts were correct: Season 1 was relatively light weight in terms of real plot or deep character development, but necessary to introduce most of the main characters for the series. I’m not as familiar with X-Men canon as many of you, so I was not disappointed with the story lines. I gave the writers the benefit of the doubt given that the setting is the mutants in their early teen years. Apparently, from just some quick researching, they tried to keep somewhat close to the origins of the characters, just a little tweaked to accommodate the highschool setting.

Question: In other XMen series, is it generally accepted that they all knew each other so young-- that is, the core group (cyclops, Jean Grey, etc) and ‘the brotherhood’, or in other canons, did they meet later?

Given Season 1, Season 2 I thought started out a little too light. I didn’t think it really got down and dirty until toward the end of the season. The last few episodes with the return of Mystique and the introduction of Scarlet Witch really went to the next level.

Question for the Wolverine fanatics-- Is it generally accepted that Wolverine was in WWII with Captain America, or was that just a scenario to cameo Capt. America and show Magneto’s childhood? In the episode, Professor X (animated mutant, not T-Nation mutant) was genuinely surprised that Wolverine was that old.

Starting Season 3 this evening.[/quote]

Your gonna love Season 3,

As far as the Wolverine backstory goes it is true that he was in WWII, and if I am not mistaken he did interact in some way with Capt America (Im gonna need my resident comic experts to back me up on that) and Professor X really didn’t know how old he was from the onset it was a revelation that I think even Wolverine was surprised about when he actually found out.

The X-Men original group consisted of Professor X, Beast, Cyclops, Jean Grey & Iceman, They were the first of his pupils I am not sure what age they were when they all met up but it is known that Bobby(Iceman) was the youngest. Also apparently one of the most powerful mutants on the planet, but he has had his powers restricted by Prof X. He has only lived up to his full potential once when the White Queen possessed his body.

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Angel was also one of the originals.

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[quote]Pootie Tang wrote:
SteelyD wrote:
OK, so I’m through Season 2.

Some of the previous posts were correct: Season 1 was relatively light weight in terms of real plot or deep character development, but necessary to introduce most of the main characters for the series. I’m not as familiar with X-Men canon as many of you, so I was not disappointed with the story lines. I gave the writers the benefit of the doubt given that the setting is the mutants in their early teen years. Apparently, from just some quick researching, they tried to keep somewhat close to the origins of the characters, just a little tweaked to accommodate the highschool setting.

Question: In other XMen series, is it generally accepted that they all knew each other so young-- that is, the core group (cyclops, Jean Grey, etc) and ‘the brotherhood’, or in other canons, did they meet later?

Given Season 1, Season 2 I thought started out a little too light. I didn’t think it really got down and dirty until toward the end of the season. The last few episodes with the return of Mystique and the introduction of Scarlet Witch really went to the next level.

Question for the Wolverine fanatics-- Is it generally accepted that Wolverine was in WWII with Captain America, or was that just a scenario to cameo Capt. America and show Magneto’s childhood? In the episode, Professor X (animated mutant, not T-Nation mutant) was genuinely surprised that Wolverine was that old.

Starting Season 3 this evening.

Your gonna love Season 3,

As far as the Wolverine backstory goes it is true that he was in WWII, and if I am not mistaken he did interact in some way with Capt America (Im gonna need my resident comic experts to back me up on that) and Professor X really didn’t know how old he was from the onset it was a revelation that I think even Wolverine was surprised about when he actually found out.

The X-Men original group consisted of Professor X, Beast, Cyclops, Jean Grey & Iceman, They were the first of his pupils I am not sure what age they were when they all met up but it is known that Bobby(Iceman) was the youngest. Also apparently one of the most powerful mutants on the planet, but he has had his powers restricted by Prof X. He has only lived up to his full potential once when the White Queen possessed his body.

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Angel was also one of the originals.

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Good point about Iceman. He isn’t the only one that Professor X put a limit on…but apparently the guy could literally freeze the entire planet if he wanted to by accident if there was no limit placed on his ability.

I believe he limited Cyclops powers as well.

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Just started season 3. Be done at the end of the week.

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The thing that strikes me the most, and maybe because I pick up after kids all the time, is just how destructive these kids are. I mean, tens of billions of dollars of damage after a few episodes. Houses, cars, buildings, dams, military vehicles, rock concerts, infrastructure.

Prof X must have some DAMNED expensive liability insurance :wink:

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[quote]SteelyD wrote:
The thing that strikes me the most, and maybe because I pick up after kids all the time, is just how destructive these kids are. I mean, tens of billions of dollars of damage after a few episodes. Houses, cars, buildings, dams, military vehicles, rock concerts, infrastructure.

Prof X must have some DAMNED expensive liability insurance ;)[/quote]

LOL!

He just makes everyone forget and makes them think a hurricane did it. You would think that after 500 hurricanes on one year, someone would start asking questions.

On the real though, he should do a better job of controlling these fuckers.

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The original nineties cartoon has been on youtube for a couple of years. Yesterday I watched the episodes “One Mans Worth” part 1 and 2. If you want to how good the series was then watch those two episodes.

Also Wolverine and Captain America fought together in WW2. Wolverine was not one of the original X-men but after the original team (cyclops, jean etc) ended up trapped on an island Professor X recruited a team of international mutants to free them. This team included Wolverine and Colossus.

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Tell me there is a season 4! I just finished season 3 and shit hit the fan!

In the 90’s t.v. show couldn’t Rouge fly without taking powers from someone who could already fly? Then she can’t in Xmen: Evolution. Perhaps she learns how later on?

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[quote]Fuzzyapple wrote:
Tell me there is a season 4! I just finished season 3 and shit hit the fan!

In the 90’s t.v. show couldn’t Rouge fly without taking powers from someone who could already fly? Then she can’t in Xmen: Evolution. Perhaps she learns how later on? [/quote]

Rouge got her powers(strength, flight) from killing Ms. Marvel.Mystique had manipulated her and Rouge literally drained Ms. Marvel dry. Xmen evolution takes place before all those events.

In the 90’s cartoon they had an episode with Rouge’s origin. They made it seem like Ms. Marvel was still alive but in the comic she is dead as a Doorknob. Not sure if they resurrected her though.

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[quote]Fuzzyapple wrote:
Tell me there is a season 4! I just finished season 3 and shit hit the fan!

In the 90’s t.v. show couldn’t Rouge fly without taking powers from someone who could already fly? Then she can’t in Xmen: Evolution. Perhaps she learns how later on? [/quote]

Season 4 on Marvel.com

I just finished the last (Episode 52) last night. Awesome series.

I agree with everybody who said they turned it up in Seasons 3 and 4. A bit darker and deeper character exploration, which was necessary for the last few episodes. They actually got past the “GI Joe-ish nobody dies” scenarios and were blowing up military assets where there were no apparent survivors-- I don’t know why that stuck with me.

Wolverine and the XMen, next, although on Marvel, there are other series as well. Ironman looks compelling.

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[quote]SteelyD wrote:
Fuzzyapple wrote:
Tell me there is a season 4! I just finished season 3 and shit hit the fan!

In the 90’s t.v. show couldn’t Rouge fly without taking powers from someone who could already fly? Then she can’t in Xmen: Evolution. Perhaps she learns how later on?

Season 4 on Marvel.com

I just finished the last (Episode 52) last night. Awesome series.

I agree with everybody who said they turned it up in Seasons 3 and 4. A bit darker and deeper character exploration, which was necessary for the last few episodes. They actually got past the “GI Joe-ish nobody dies” scenarios and were blowing up military assets where there were no apparent survivors-- I don’t know why that stuck with me.

Wolverine and the XMen, next, although on Marvel, there are other series as well. Ironman looks compelling.[/quote]

The speech Professor X gave at the End of the Series was chilling and the montage they showed during the speech was very well done. Made me crave for more.

If you guys enjoyed X-Men Evolution you should give Legion of Superheroes a try. I have to warn you though, It starts out VERY juvenile and I almost gave up on it, but the last 3 episodes turned up the intensity and the ENTIRE 2ND SEASON was dark and at some points very violent (for a saturday morning cartoon) and the Season Finale was VERY, VERY good. There are only two seasons of this show and I believe it is 12eps each. They canceled waaaaay too soon but season 2 was well worth it.

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[quote]Pootie Tang wrote:
Rouge got her powers(strength, flight) from killing Ms. Marvel.Mystique had manipulated her and Rouge literally drained Ms. Marvel dry. Xmen evolution takes place before all those events.

In the 90’s cartoon they had an episode with Rouge’s origin. They made it seem like Ms. Marvel was still alive but in the comic she is dead as a Doorknob. Not sure if they resurrected her though. [/quote]

I see, thanks for the insight! Ya I forgot she had super strength in the 90’s show as well. I didn’t follow the comics much back in the day. I’ve posted before in another thread it was more about looking at the drawings than reading what was going on lol. I should pay a visit to them since I have a lot of the old 70’s comics that my Dad has.

[quote]SteelyD wrote:
Season 4 on Marvel.com [/quote]

Thanks! Will have a look.

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[quote]Fuzzyapple wrote:
Pootie Tang wrote:
Rouge got her powers(strength, flight) from killing Ms. Marvel.Mystique had manipulated her and Rouge literally drained Ms. Marvel dry. Xmen evolution takes place before all those events.

In the 90’s cartoon they had an episode with Rouge’s origin. They made it seem like Ms. Marvel was still alive but in the comic she is dead as a Doorknob. Not sure if they resurrected her though.

I see, thanks for the insight! Ya I forgot she had super strength in the 90’s show as well. I didn’t follow the comics much back in the day. I’ve posted before in another thread it was more about looking at the drawings than reading what was going on lol. I should pay a visit to them since I have a lot of the old 70’s comics that my Dad has.

SteelyD wrote:
Season 4 on Marvel.com

Thanks! Will have a look.
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Geek edit…in the 90’s cartoon she was in a COMA from the draining that Rouge did. I don’t know how I missed that episode as a kid but I got that whole series about 2 months ago and watched it all of the way through. Considering Ms. Marvel is alive and well now in the comics, I am going to guess they went this way with the overall story line as well.

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[quote]SteelyD wrote:

Wolverine and the XMen, next, although on Marvel, there are other series as well. Ironman looks compelling.[/quote]

Which IronMan? The animated movie that came out about 2 years ago was decent even though they strayed from the “ten rings”.

I am thinking they are beginning to realize their audience isn’t just little kids.

On that note…listening to the director’s commentary of Wolverine:Origins…they cut out a shit load of gore to make that movie PG13…like when the old lady got shot in the back while they were in the barn (right after he got the ademantium). The only reason she is holding iced tea is so they could show the bullet going through her with no blood.

I want an R rated Wolverine movie.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
I want an R rated Wolverine movie.[/quote]

I was thinking about this the other day. Like in the cartoon (of course) he never slashes anyone with his claws but slashes a robot. Understandable because it’s a cartoon. But as you get older you want a little more bang. Almost like the newest Rambo movie type gore. I thought that was pretty core.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
SteelyD wrote:

Wolverine and the XMen, next, although on Marvel, there are other series as well. Ironman looks compelling.

Which IronMan? The animated movie that came out about 2 years ago was decent even though they strayed from the “ten rings”.

I am thinking they are beginning to realize their audience isn’t just little kids.

On that note…listening to the director’s commentary of Wolverine:Origins…they cut out a shit load of gore to make that movie PG13…like when the old lady got shot in the back while they were in the barn (right after he got the ademantium). The only reason she is holding iced tea is so they could show the bullet going through her with no blood.

I want an R rated Wolverine movie.[/quote]

You actually bought the DVD to Origins? Wow you are a brave dude. I cannot express my level of disappointment with that movie. Did they atleast have decent deleted scenes?

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[quote]Pootie Tang wrote:
Professor X wrote:
SteelyD wrote:

Wolverine and the XMen, next, although on Marvel, there are other series as well. Ironman looks compelling.

Which IronMan? The animated movie that came out about 2 years ago was decent even though they strayed from the “ten rings”.

I am thinking they are beginning to realize their audience isn’t just little kids.

On that note…listening to the director’s commentary of Wolverine:Origins…they cut out a shit load of gore to make that movie PG13…like when the old lady got shot in the back while they were in the barn (right after he got the ademantium). The only reason she is holding iced tea is so they could show the bullet going through her with no blood.

I want an R rated Wolverine movie.

You actually bought the DVD to Origins? Wow you are a brave dude. I cannot express my level of disappointment with that movie. Did they atleast have decent deleted scenes?
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I got it on blue ray and it is way better than I remember it in the theater. I was disappointed as well in the theater…but after watching it again, I think I was just too hyped up for other movies coming out around that time…plus Batman was so fucking huge that anything less kind of paled in comparison.

Having deadpool’s head get cut off…and then seeing him find his head again after the credits roll so he could put it back on his shoulders to heal was cool also. I guess these dudes just can’t die.