[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
I honestly think this is gonna turn out to be bigger than just a a cover up by the school. The guy was reported to police in '98 and NOTHING happened. I think pockets were lined and blind eyes were turned all over that town to keep this thing from ever going public.[/quote]
On Jim Rome’s radio show this morning, a caller speculated that this could bring out the “death penalty” for PSU’s storied football program.
Considering the NCAA shuttered SMU’s football program shuttered for covering up recruiting violations, how is this coverup not 1000x worse??
Maybe firing absolutely everyone will suffice, but then again maybe not…
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Who wants to bet these guys are Catholics? Speaking of institutional pedophilia.[/quote]
Im far from religious but this is one of the more ignorant things posted in a while. [/quote]
Orly?[/quote]
It’s actually so ignorant that a dignified response may come across sounding like an explanation of the theory of relativity to a person with three #21 chromosomes.
Welp, that was fucking disgusting. Sorry, but Paterno is culpable in this. I have no feelings football wise going into this. But, it was brought to his attention, that a subordinate was caught raping a child and he did nothing. Yeah, yeah, legally he brought it to the attention of his superiors, but morally he didn’t care that children were being harmed so long as nobody fucked with the football program. Nobody wanted to ‘make waves’, despite the fact that what he was privy to was the rape of a child.
Victim 2, this wasn’t inappropriate touching, fondling, looking, or even kissing, this was full on ass-rape. Paterno knew and did nothing…Shame on him, shame on Penn fucking state. Mean while the NCAA is suspending players left and right for getting a free meal or getting a few buck by selling their own jersey.
If the NCAA does not take this seriously, they need to be disbanded after they have been brought up on charges of fraud and being general assholes.
I would say this is a case where the media is under reporting the issue. Nobody has really covered what this indictment is really about.
Other than the victims, I feel for the atheletes in this program. They were fooled, they did not sign up for this shit. Somehow, the players need to be protected while the school is punished severely. I think the converence needs to prvide free and easy transfer to these players to other schools, covering extraneous expenses and making sure that these players futures aren’t affected by the actions and negligence of a few assholes.
After thinking about this further Ive reached this opinion.
The 2(?) witnesses, the Grad Assistant and the Janitor, are the most to blame in this.
Both of them were grown men who saw children getting raped. Niether went to the police. That’s ridiculous.
We’re not talking about grade school children who witnessed something terrible; there youd expect them to report what they saw to a parent, teacher, authority figure. The grad assistant was probably my age when he saw a child get raped and he went to tell his dad about it. That’s not acceptable. Any well adjusted adult should understand that going to the police should be the first thing done when the crime is this severe.
Joe Paterno is taking a lot of flack because of his stature, and it may turn out to be deserved, but the witnesses are the ones that betrayed the victims the most.
[quote]pat wrote:
Other than the victims, I feel for the atheletes in this program. They were fooled, they did not sign up for this shit. Somehow, the players need to be protected while the school is punished severely. I think the converence needs to prvide free and easy transfer to these players to other schools, covering extraneous expenses and making sure that these players futures aren’t affected by the actions and negligence of a few assholes. [/quote]
This is one of the most crushing sports related news stories I’ve ever read. I can’t believe this happened at a big time respected d1 program headed by ‘Joe Pa.’
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
I honestly think this is gonna turn out to be bigger than just a a cover up by the school. The guy was reported to police in '98 and NOTHING happened. I think pockets were lined and blind eyes were turned all over that town to keep this thing from ever going public.[/quote]
On Jim Rome’s radio show this morning, a caller speculated that this could bring out the “death penalty” for PSU’s storied football program.
Considering the NCAA shuttered SMU’s football program shuttered for covering up recruiting violations, how is this coverup not 1000x worse??
Maybe firing absolutely everyone will suffice, but then again maybe not…
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Unfortunately the sanctions will be MINIMAL if at all… This really isnt an NCAA investigation, its a criminal one.
I’m conflicted on the sanctions part though. Why punish the players at the university when they had nothing to do with it? That doesnt make sense. All involved should be fired (no severance package or retirement plans) and all student athletes should be allowed unconditional transfers without having to sit out a year. I would also like to see some sort of game banning (really hit the University where it counts… the pocket book) but allow all the current players to leave if they’d like so that they are not punished for the wrongdoings of these sick bastards.
After reading the details on this horrific situation, it appears that Joe Paterno knew that this had been occurring, and actively helped cover it up.
If this is even the slightest bit true, I hope that he, along with anyone else who enabled these evil acts, is thrown put behind bars regardless of age or health.
The prison system might not be efficient in many of its functions, but it is EXTREMELY efficient and effective in dealing with sexual deviants, and the criminals behind bars make sure they get a very warm welcome…
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
After thinking about this further Ive reached this opinion.
The 2(?) witnesses, the Grad Assistant and the Janitor, are the most to blame in this.
Both of them were grown men who saw children getting raped. Niether went to the police. That’s ridiculous.
We’re not talking about grade school children who witnessed something terrible; there youd expect them to report what they saw to a parent, teacher, authority figure. The grad assistant was probably my age when he saw a child get raped and he went to tell his dad about it. That’s not acceptable. Any well adjusted adult should understand that going to the police should be the first thing done when the crime is this severe.
Joe Paterno is taking a lot of flack because of his stature, and it may turn out to be deserved, but the witnesses are the ones that betrayed the victims the most. [/quote]
If the grad assistant and the janitor reported the incidents to their bosses and were assured it would be taken care of, then given the academic environment where things are handled usually by campus cops then city cops if needed, I can understand why they did not report it to the city food afterwards. Remember, this is their work environment.
I’ve been a harsh critic of Paterno on this subject. However, court of law says he did everything he was supposed to do & did. Court of public opinion is a entirely different animal altogether.
I think by the campus police not knowing anything about this says a mouthful.
By the way, don’t know if it’s been mentioned here already, but Sandusky and his wife have SIX adopted kids, AND they took in many foster kids. Hmmmmmmmmm.
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Who wants to bet these guys are Catholics? Speaking of institutional pedophilia.[/quote]
Im far from religious but this is one of the more ignorant things posted in a while. [/quote]
Orly?[/quote]
It’s actually so ignorant that a dignified response may come across sounding like an explanation of the theory of relativity to a person with three #21 chromosomes. [/quote]
If institutionalized pedophilia overlooked by organizational superiors makes for ignorant conversation then this whole thread is a wash.
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Who wants to bet these guys are Catholics? Speaking of institutional pedophilia.[/quote]
Im far from religious but this is one of the more ignorant things posted in a while. [/quote]
Orly?[/quote]
It’s actually so ignorant that a dignified response may come across sounding like an explanation of the theory of relativity to a person with three #21 chromosomes. [/quote]
If institutionalized pedophilia overlooked by organizational superiors makes for ignorant conversation then this whole thread is a wash.
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How are the actions of one individual considered “institutionalized?”
It’d be like one employee at Applebees deciding to take a poop in the sink, thus the rest of the Applebees restaurants must be sink poopers?
C’mon now.
Comparisons to that particular church is pretty low hanging fruit at this point.