I just can’t get over the fact that Spanier and Paterno, who knew something but weren’t charged, were fired… .and Curley (who’s been formally charged) and McQueary (who saw it firsthand) still have jobs.
[quote]scj119 wrote:
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
[quote]scj119 wrote:
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
Seeing the riots at Penn State that occured after the firing forced me to lose a ton of respect for the so called “students” that attend that institution.
Who riots after someone connected to a sexual abuse scandal is fired? (not a single incident but repeated offenses)
Either there all a bunch of low class imbeciles, or their suffering from a variation of Stockholm’s syndrome.[/quote]
You’re naive if you think the same thing wouldn’t happen at any college where a coach has been there 40 years. These are 20 year old kids you are talking about. [/quote]
Yea, except for the fact that this hasn’t ever happened at any other college, and probably won’t.
Tattoos (Ohio State) and money (Miami) being given to players are peanuts compared to a program that allowed sexual abuse to go on repeatedly, in it’s own locker room, and then sought to push it under the rug.
At 20 your no longer a kid, especially when your attending an institution for higher education.[/quote]
The argument that students who attend PSU are worse than students at other universities is asinine. [/quote]
I never once said that, you might want to settle down a little bit over there.
[quote]SmilingPolitely wrote:
[quote]Edevus wrote:
It would be good to know what those students were told. Maybe some false information to mislead them.
“They have fired him for something that someone else did!”[/quote]
Ummm. I tend to think college students today are pretty savvy when it comes to finding information on the internet. NO excuse for not knowing the issues before rioting.[/quote]
Exactly.
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
[quote]scj119 wrote:
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
[quote]scj119 wrote:
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
Seeing the riots at Penn State that occured after the firing forced me to lose a ton of respect for the so called “students” that attend that institution.
Who riots after someone connected to a sexual abuse scandal is fired? (not a single incident but repeated offenses)
Either there all a bunch of low class imbeciles, or their suffering from a variation of Stockholm’s syndrome.[/quote]
You’re naive if you think the same thing wouldn’t happen at any college where a coach has been there 40 years. These are 20 year old kids you are talking about. [/quote]
Yea, except for the fact that this hasn’t ever happened at any other college, and probably won’t.
Tattoos (Ohio State) and money (Miami) being given to players are peanuts compared to a program that allowed sexual abuse to go on repeatedly, in it’s own locker room, and then sought to push it under the rug.
At 20 your no longer a kid, especially when your attending an institution for higher education.[/quote]
The argument that students who attend PSU are worse than students at other universities is asinine. [/quote]
I never once said that, you might want to settle down a little bit over there.[/quote]
Then what did you mean by “lost respect for so called students who attend that institution”?
[quote]scj119 wrote:
[quote]Edevus wrote:
[quote]SmilingPolitely wrote:
[quote]Edevus wrote:
It would be good to know what those students were told. Maybe some false information to mislead them.
“They have fired him for something that someone else did!”[/quote]
Ummm. I tend to think college students today are pretty savvy when it comes to finding information on the internet. NO excuse for not knowing the issues before rioting.[/quote]
I see people of all ages believing the lies that are told just because they come from a “trusted” source, one that goes with their mindset (Politics, religion, etc.). No difference here.
Imagine that some of them have X coach. X coach is friends with this guy, so X coach tells them this and that press is lying. There you have it.
Or they are just very stupid.
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Again, you have to understand what a tiny minority of PSU’s 40,000 students is taking part in those riots.
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I’ve been defending this. I doubt it was too many of them.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
The sad part will be if this kills Paterno. Old guys in a position like that tend to have their health go to shit real quick when it ends.[/quote]
And if he truly did cover this up, then I really hope he enjoys hell cause he will be there soon.
I blame the media for this; I find it very disturbing that a bunch of us have the noose and tree picked out for Paterno when we do not yet have all the facts. We have charging documents, which are ALLEGATIONS that have not been challenged yet. We have the benefit of HINDSIGHT and who wouldn’t do something different with the benefit of HINDSIGHT?
But in our society today, you are truly guilty (in the media and then the court of public opinion) until proven innocent. I find it very hard to believe based upon the entirety of Paterno’s body of work that he purposefully turned a blind eye to the affair. If he did, I will make that decision once ALL THE EVIDENCE IS DISCLOSED and decided upon.
A man reporting something up the chain of command the very next day is NOT engaging in any cover-up or sweeping anything under the rug.
Finally, as for the comment that he should have left whatever many years ago; without Paterno PSU is some little college out in Podunk, PA. Paterno made that University and earned the right to leave when he fucking wanted to.
Btw, my “nephew” just signed his LOI to go to PSU next year, to play basketball.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
The sad part will be if this kills Paterno. Old guys in a position like that tend to have their health go to shit real quick when it ends.[/quote]
And if he truly did cover this up, then I really hope he enjoys hell cause he will be there soon. [/quote]
How does one engage in a cover-up when they report an incident to their superior the very next day? How is that even smell like “cover-up” on his part?
Whats the guess on how long the statue of Paterno remains?
Im guessing Paterno will release a televised statement at some point soon. He will not tell the whole truth. Someone will reveal info that he left out, incriminating him further. Then the statue will come down. Just my prediction
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Whats the guess on how long the statue of Paterno remains?
Im guessing Paterno will release a televised statement at some point soon. He will not tell the whole truth. Someone will reveal info that he left out, incriminating him further. Then the statue will come down. Just my prediction[/quote]
Not to mention the Patee-Paterno library…
[quote]Edevus wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
The sad part will be if this kills Paterno. Old guys in a position like that tend to have their health go to shit real quick when it ends.[/quote]
The mental health of the abused children is probably in even worst state.
He didn’t move a finger to prevent it.[/quote]
No doubt. I’m not saying he doesn’t deserve it. He should absolutely have been fired. He failed as a human being.
But it will still be sad if he’s dead in 6 months. To fall so quickly from that high. The whole thing is sad.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Whats the guess on how long the statue of Paterno remains?
Im guessing Paterno will release a televised statement at some point soon. He will not tell the whole truth. Someone will reveal info that he left out, incriminating him further. Then the statue will come down. Just my prediction[/quote]
I read that he was going to talk to media today.
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
seriously, the faces of these pedo’s always look like they share some sort of gene trait.[/quote]
Yeah, now that you mention it there does seem to be a “look” associated with doesn’t it. That’s excellent observations skills there Andy…
I am keeping my eye out for the ‘look’ if I see somebody who has it, I am kicking their ass on the spot!
[quote]scj119 wrote:
[quote]Grneyes wrote:
The only person I have not seen mentioned as being fired or any sort of punishment is the G.A. who actually SAW the rape and did NOTHING but call his daddy. If he shows up for the game this weekend, he needs to be beat to the ground.[/quote]
HE IS OUR FUCKING WIDE RECEIVERS COACH AND HAS NOT BEEN FIRED. How hypocritical can we be? The Paterno firing is a PURE PUBLIC RELATIONS move and the board of trustees does not give a RATS ASS about what happened. They just want media off their campus.
Paterno and Spanier - two big names who knew of the incident and didn’t go to police - fired.
Curley - knew exactly as much as those two, not fired
McQueary - SAW the incident, not fired.
If you’re going to clean house, clean fucking house. What PSU did is disgraceful.[/quote]
You are absolutely correct. Everybody associated with the pedo needs to get gone now.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
The sad part will be if this kills Paterno. Old guys in a position like that tend to have their health go to shit real quick when it ends.[/quote]
And if he truly did cover this up, then I really hope he enjoys hell cause he will be there soon. [/quote]
How does one engage in a cover-up when they report an incident to their superior the very next day? How is that even smell like “cover-up” on his part? [/quote]
BG in my opinion if one of my staff was engaged in this activity I would not just report to my boss, I would report to the cops. Again full story has not been truly investigated as of yet correct? This goes beyond violating school policy this is a criminal act.
I also just stated if he did cover it up not that he did.
But also I really really doubt that JoePa could have not known something.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
Finally, as for the comment that he should have left whatever many years ago; without Paterno PSU is some little college out in Podunk, PA. Paterno made that University and earned the right to leave when he fucking wanted to.
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Not sure if this was in reference to my convo with sjc or not, but in case it was… I didn’t say that he “should have been fired” many years ago. I was just pointing out that there may have already been a strained relationship between Paterno and the trustees which would preclude them from backing him now.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
The sad part will be if this kills Paterno. Old guys in a position like that tend to have their health go to shit real quick when it ends.[/quote]
And if he truly did cover this up, then I really hope he enjoys hell cause he will be there soon. [/quote]
How does one engage in a cover-up when they report an incident to their superior the very next day? How is that even smell like “cover-up” on his part? [/quote]
BG in my opinion if one of my staff was engaged in this activity I would not just report to my boss, I would report to the cops. Again full story has not been truly investigated as of yet correct? This goes beyond violating school policy this is a criminal act.
I also just stated if he did cover it up not that he did.
But also I really really doubt that JoePa could have not known something. [/quote]
JoePa has said that McQueary was “visibly upset” and told him “Sandusky fondled, or touched, or horsed around with a boy”, said he didn’t remember the exact words (shady).
He DID report to the head of campus police. He should’ve done more (gone to local police, or state police, whatever).
Curley is being charged with perjury and still is our athletic director. Oh by the way he was also the AD when the PSU woman’s coach was brought down for not allowing lesbians to play. Still employed.
See how much damage one person can do? Isn’t it incredible?
Anybody ever read his book?
Are they going to rename the library?
Aptly named IMO, libraries should be full of silence.
In case anyone was curious. Here is a link to the time line: