I have just started taking 625mg egcg a day. Three days in and i think i might be noticing better definition and muscle bulk.
From my research i’ve figured a good way to take it is straight upon waking before eating with just a little orange juice for absorption.
Study on egcg:
http://ajpcell.physiology.org/cgi/content/full/290/2/C616
[quote]big balls wrote:
I have just started taking 625mg egcg a day. Three days in and i think i might be noticing better definition and muscle bulk.
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After 3 days really?!
[quote]big balls wrote:
etaco wrote:
There are always the questions of dosages and bio-availability. Also, what about the side effects of high EGCG dosages? Would a SERM be necessary along side such presumably high dosages?
Here is the actual study abstract:
Dystrophic muscles suffer from enhanced oxidative stress. We have investigated whether administration of an antioxidant, epigallocatechin-3-gallate (EGCG), a component of green tea, reduces their oxidative stress and pathophysiology in mdx mice, a mild phenotype model of human Duchenne-type muscular dystrophy. EGCG (5 mg/kg body weight in saline) was injected subcutaneously 4�? a week into the backs of C57 normal and dystrophin-deficient mdx mice for 8 weeks after birth. Saline was injected into normal and mdx controls. EGCG had almost no observable effects on normal mice or on the body weights of mdx mice. In contrast, it produced the following improvements in the blood chemistry, muscle histology, and electrophysiology of the treated mdx mice. First, the activities of serum creatine kinase were reduced to normal levels. Second, the numbers of fluorescent lipofuscin granules per unit volume of soleus and diaphragm muscles were significantly decreased by about 50% compared to the numbers in the corresponding saline-treated controls. Third, in sections of diaphragm and soleus muscles, the relative area occupied by histologically normal muscle fibres increased significantly 1.5- to 2-fold whereas the relative areas of connective tissue and necrotic muscle fibres were substantially reduced. Fourth, the times for the maximum tetanic force of soleus muscles to fall by a half increased to almost normal values. Fifth, the amount of utrophin in diaphragm muscles increased significantly by 17%, partially compensating for the lack of dystrophin expression.
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5MG/KG bodyweight EGCG. So for me i would need 450mg pure Egcg injected 4 times a week for 8 weeks to match the study.
How has this been working out for you? Its been over a month.
[quote]DJS wrote:
How has this been working out for you? Its been over a month.[/quote]
I haven’t actually tried the protocol of injections i suggested. It’s just speculation as i wouldn’t risk injecting something which isn’t pharmaceutical grade.
[quote]big balls wrote:
DJS wrote:
How has this been working out for you? Its been over a month.
I haven’t actually tried the protocol of injections i suggested. It’s just speculation as i wouldn’t risk injecting something which isn’t pharmaceutical grade.[/quote]
Oh sorry, I should of quoted the post i was refering too. I was talking about this on 4/6 …
"I have just started taking 625mg egcg a day. Three days in and i think i might be noticing better definition and muscle bulk.
From my research i’ve figured a good way to take it is straight upon waking before eating with just a little orange juice for absorption."
[quote]DJS wrote:
big balls wrote:
DJS wrote:
How has this been working out for you? Its been over a month.
I haven’t actually tried the protocol of injections i suggested. It’s just speculation as i wouldn’t risk injecting something which isn’t pharmaceutical grade.
Oh sorry, I should of quoted the post i was refering too. I was talking about this on 4/6 …
"I have just started taking 625mg egcg a day. Three days in and i think i might be noticing better definition and muscle bulk.
It was going quite well for a little while but the problem was it would make me feel a little nauseous. Anyway one day i threw up so i decided to stop taking it. If i remember rightly it did have a bit of an effect but it also made me extremely hungry.
From my research i’ve figured a good way to take it is straight upon waking before eating with just a little orange juice for absorption."
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