Wow! EGCG and Myostatin

B rock,

The CP3 stuff wasnt cheap at retail price, like almost 60 but I got it for 25% off at Vitamin Shoppe, so 45. The good thing is I kept the reciept so if this stuff doesnt do shit I can return it after 2 weeks no questions asked.

Looking at your profile we have a very similar build and practically the same goals, including the 300 bench by the winter. I will post some stats later on tonight and track my progress here.

Update so far:

Nothing shockingly new to report, only been taking the Myo-drug from Cytodyne for a day. Although, my morning weight has been fluctuating between 185.6 and 187 (typically gets to 190-195 during the day)and this morning it read 184.4, and I have been setting personal strength records every time I hit the gym, including bench, lunges, and leg press. Yesterday I did dumbell lungesd with 75’s, and probably could have done one final set with 80’s. I will check back in a week or so to give the supplement some time to work its “magic”

Just to note, I changed up my program from HIIT to low (1-6) reps about 4 weeks ago and I have been making strength increases every week, so I doubt 4 pills of the supplement has made any difference, just the program doing what its supposed to

Are you dieting to lose weight or anything mapshooter?

I’m sorry the green tea calculations confused me, how many grams of EGCG would be needed per day?

8g of GTE at 50% meaning 4g of EGCG, or 8g of EGCG per day?

I made my own kind of program which is based off of Thib’s transformation protocol. I try to keep carbs as low as possible monday-friday, except for my post workout shake, which has 60g Waxy and some hydro.

Then on Saturday and Sunday, I nix the fat intake and for the first 3 meals of the day I have 60-80 g complex carbs, like ezekial cereal is probably the “cheat” food of the weekend. My weekends are not cheat days by any means, probably the opposite.

I call them “healthy refeeds” pretty much packed with healthy carbs, whole grains, blueberries, buckwheat, sweet potatoes . . . no burgers or fries or any of that crap. Hell, by the time saturday morning comes along I am literally drooling over my plate of buckwheat pancakes, ezekial cereal, flax meal, and blueberries.

With ALL of my carb meals i use some sort of Glucose disposal agent. Right now I have some Anabolic Pump, which has corosolic? acid, some r-ala, and some bitter melon. Most of the time I’ll use the Anabolic Pump, for smaller meals typically r-ala and bitter melon. Its funny, I look a heck of a lot leaner on my weekends than I do on the weekdays . . .

Cals during off days are around 1700-2100, on workout days 2000-2500 and on the weekends, which are heavy leg and heavy chest days I eat 2800-3200. So far, my strength is increasing each week and my bodyfat is dropping, so I’m not going to change anything. I do 20 minutes of incline walking after all of my leg workouts and I run sprints on my heavy chest day.

So, I guess you could say that I’m doing a “recomp.” The fact that the weights are going up each week tells me I am growing, and the fact that my waist keeps getting smaller tells me I’m losing fat.

I tried the GSD last year and lost a ton of size and my workouts SUCKED, but I did get cut. As I write this now I am gargling a myoblast pill in my mouth . . . will check back in a few days

I haven’t been supplementing the last few days. I’ve been seeing a girlfriend of mine, not realy eating or working out and i’ve been drinking.

I still look better but i’ve lost a few pounds.

Day 4 update:

Muscles definately harder and theres a significant increase in DOMS. No changes in measurements yet, but my lines are becoming more defined. Yesterday was my re-feed day and I was looking LARGE, but it could all be in my head. Yesterday I went for max bench and was unable to hit it, got really really fucking close, but I attribute that to shitty sleep the night before.

After 4 days I really cant expect much, even AAS dont show their teeth until a week or so. I do get a nice feeling from the rhodiola that is in the pills though!

[quote]MapShooter wrote:
Day 4 update:

Muscles definately harder and theres a significant increase in DOMS. No changes in measurements yet, but my lines are becoming more defined.

Yesterday was my re-feed day and I was looking LARGE, but it could all be in my head. Yesterday I went for max bench and was unable to hit it, got really really fucking close, but I attribute that to shitty sleep the night before.

After 4 days I really cant expect much, even AAS dont show their teeth until a week or so. I do get a nice feeling from the rhodiola that is in the pills though! [/quote]

Are you taking pictures?

[quote]xXSeraphimXx wrote:
MapShooter wrote:
Day 4 update:

Muscles definately harder and theres a significant increase in DOMS. No changes in measurements yet, but my lines are becoming more defined.

Yesterday was my re-feed day and I was looking LARGE, but it could all be in my head. Yesterday I went for max bench and was unable to hit it, got really really fucking close, but I attribute that to shitty sleep the night before.

After 4 days I really cant expect much, even AAS dont show their teeth until a week or so. I do get a nice feeling from the rhodiola that is in the pills though!

Are you taking pictures?[/quote]

My trainer is going to snap some photos on thursday when I see him again (i train 3 x week on my own, once with him), but I’ll try and reboot the camera tomorrow and snap some.

[quote]LiftSmart wrote:
I’d be kind of bummed out if a true myostatin inhibitor was produced.

Muscle building would be so easy and unsatisfying…[/quote]

And all the gyms would be full of even more guys that look like fucking retards!

[quote]big balls wrote:
I haven’t been supplementing the last few days. I’ve been seeing a girlfriend of mine, not realy eating or working out and i’ve been drinking.

I still look better but i’ve lost a few pounds.

[/quote]

Are you taking pictures?

(of your or the girlfriend; lol…just playin’)

I haven’t really been using the product much recently, just a bit here and there. This friend who i’ve been seeing commented that i looked like a little bodybuilder a few days back then said i looked fat today.

This might be because of not getting myostatin inhibited or not. I had just loaded up on creatine for the first time in a couple of weeks and i bloat cos i use loads.

Anyway i’ve only got a few capsules left so i might start dabbing it on my gums instead, like a speed addict.

Try and keep updated.

Thanks for the update . . . been about a week on mine but i started getting this greenish goo on my tongue and it kind of freaked me out, so i didnt use it today. Workouts sofar have been great, scale weight is a bit up. Nothing much else to report.

Quick question, how exactly does it absorb in the mouth? Through the tongue, gums, mouth canal?

Mouth absorption is generally sublingual, that is, from underneath the tongue.

This thread is starting to make me lose interest, could you guys post pictures. Words are just that, words.

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