But OP isn’t comparing boxing and MMA…OP is asking a what if. Shouldn’t be too difficult. GSP, a guy with great hands, BOXING skills, great conditioning, and hard to hit overall; I think he would hold his own against a boxer. As to how he’ll do against a champion or contender, he might not fair so well. No reason to justify my opinion on that.
[quote]admbaum wrote:
But OP isn’t comparing boxing and MMA…OP is asking a what if. Shouldn’t be too difficult. GSP, a guy with great hands, BOXING skills, great conditioning, and hard to hit overall; I think he would hold his own against a boxer. As to how he’ll do against a champion or contender, he might not fair so well. No reason to justify my opinion on that.[/quote]
GSP has great hands for the UFC.
If he was a boxer only, he would be a journeyman with ten or twelve losses.
Boxing is wholly different than MMA in so many things… it’s stupid to compare them.
What about BJ Roach said he’s the best mma striker he has trained.
[quote]admbaum wrote:
But OP isn’t comparing boxing and MMA…OP is asking a what if. Shouldn’t be too difficult. GSP, a guy with great hands, BOXING skills, great conditioning, and hard to hit overall; I think he would hold his own against a boxer. As to how he’ll do against a champion or contender, he might not fair so well. No reason to justify my opinion on that.[/quote]
still, the point stands. just because someone can hit a bat with a ball doesn’t mean they can switch sports and still hit.
strategy is different in boxing, pretty sure the stance is, and completely different rules. you can’t really expect the top mma fighter to compete with the top boxer in boxing, or the top boxer to compete with a top mma fighter.
Fighting is different than other sports, I think because it’s natural in most.
In a no holds barred fight of course the elite mma fighter would beat the crap out of an elite boxer. A simple takedown to a full mount and it’d be over via strikes or an easy submission.
In a boxing match or a fight with no wrestling/clinching/takedowns allowed, the boxer would easily win.
While we’re at it:
Who would win a fight? An army veteran or gsp?
No holds barred.
why?
In a street fight with no rules and no weapons the typical mma guy will destroy the typical boxer. There should be no debate about this except from the die hard boxing fans.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
In a street fight with no rules and no weapons the typical mma guy will destroy the typical boxer. There should be no debate about this except from the die hard boxing fans.[/quote]
You do know that the words, “street fights with no rules and no weapons” sound fucking retarded when you put them all in the same sentence, right?
Some of you fucking people know nothing about how “street fights” work. I want to be in your worlds where everyone squares up and fights toe to toe, by the rules, and with no weapons, just matching their skills.
Oh wait, that world is called “sport.” Never mind.
^^^^^^^^
yup saying street fight + MA or MMA usually equals brotard quick
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
ZEB wrote:
In a street fight with no rules and no weapons the typical mma guy will destroy the typical boxer. There should be no debate about this except from the die hard boxing fans.
You do know that the words, “street fights with no rules and no weapons” sound fucking retarded when you put them all in the same sentence, right?
Some of you fucking people know nothing about how “street fights” work. I want to be in your worlds where everyone squares up and fights toe to toe, by the rules, and with no weapons, just matching their skills.
Oh wait, that world is called “sport.” Never mind. [/quote]
forget the weapons, in most “street” fights the guy is going to get 5 of his buddies and try to jump you.
[quote]kmcnyc wrote:
why?[/quote]
Because the topic is retarded and if we’re gonna have retarded discussions, we might as well have that one as well.
What about a tiger versus an angry polar bear?
[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
What about a tiger versus an angry polar bear?[/quote]
Tiger all the way.
What about a killer whale vs. a great white?
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
ZEB wrote:
In a street fight with no rules and no weapons the typical mma guy will destroy the typical boxer. There should be no debate about this except from the die hard boxing fans.
You do know that the words, “street fights with no rules and no weapons” sound fucking retarded when you put them all in the same sentence, right?[/quote]
To you maybe, but most of average intelligence understand that one can use a “qualifier” when debating a theoretical.
Then again the op didn’t say would GSP smash a boxer if the boxer was using a knife. I guess that’s a whole other debate isn’t it? Which fighter would win in a knife fight the mma figher or the boxer?
Okay.
As I stated, the only real debate will come from a die hard boxing fan who feels some sort of inner threat toward mma (mma on ppv out drawing boxing)and feels that he must defend the boxing turf, how silly. In reality there really is no comparison in most cases with comparable experience the boxer will lose. If there are weapons involved then the fighter who has the most experience with said weapon (and other variables) will win.
Does that make you feel better? If not you can always launch one of your now famous infantile profanity monologues.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
ZEB wrote:
In a street fight with no rules and no weapons the typical mma guy will destroy the typical boxer. There should be no debate about this except from the die hard boxing fans.
You do know that the words, “street fights with no rules and no weapons” sound fucking retarded when you put them all in the same sentence, right?
To you maybe, but most of average intelligence understand that one can use a “qualifier” when debating a theoretical.
Then again the op didn’t say would GSP smash a boxer if the boxer was using a knife. I guess that’s a whole other debate isn’t it? Which fighter would win in a knife fight the mma figher or the boxer?
Okay.
As I stated, the only real debate will come from a die hard boxing fan who feels some sort of inner threat toward mma (mma on ppv out drawing boxing)and feels that he must defend the boxing turf, how silly. In reality there really is no comparison in most cases with comparable experience the boxer will lose. If there are weapons involved then the fighter who has the most experience with said weapon (and other variables) will win.
Does that make you feel better? If not you can always launch one of your now famous infantile profanity monologues.
[/quote]
It is clear here that you have not the slightest idea what you are talking about.
Big fucking surprise.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
ZEB wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
ZEB wrote:
In a street fight with no rules and no weapons the typical mma guy will destroy the typical boxer. There should be no debate about this except from the die hard boxing fans.
You do know that the words, “street fights with no rules and no weapons” sound fucking retarded when you put them all in the same sentence, right?
To you maybe, but most of average intelligence understand that one can use a “qualifier” when debating a theoretical.
Then again the op didn’t say would GSP smash a boxer if the boxer was using a knife. I guess that’s a whole other debate isn’t it? Which fighter would win in a knife fight the mma figher or the boxer?
Okay.
As I stated, the only real debate will come from a die hard boxing fan who feels some sort of inner threat toward mma (mma on ppv out drawing boxing)and feels that he must defend the boxing turf, how silly. In reality there really is no comparison in most cases with comparable experience the boxer will lose. If there are weapons involved then the fighter who has the most experience with said weapon (and other variables) will win.
Does that make you feel better? If not you can always launch one of your now famous infantile profanity monologues.
It is clear here that you have not the slightest idea what you are talking about.
Big fucking surprise. [/quote]
He lost me at “street fight with rules”.
its called fisticuffs.
[quote]sevenmoist wrote:
Cockney Blue wrote:
What about a tiger versus an angry polar bear?
Tiger all the way.
What about a killer whale vs. a great white?[/quote]
Didn’t you see Jaws 2? The shark wins.
What about Chuck Norris vs. Ditka?