A lot of people hate crunkcore - seems everyone from metalheads to hip-hop fans pick out the likes of BrokeNCYDE and Millionaires as targets of strangely intense hatred. But in case you ever wish it wasn’t despicable enough, how about a white trash version of it, with badly rapped/screamed “covers” of songs by the likes of Kenny Rogers and Garth Brooks? That seems like it couldn’t possibly get any worse, but yes it can - it could be done by European white dudes with goofy European accents.
I think the most universally despised type of music is country. How many times have you heard someone say, I listen to everything, except country, I hate country. And I do, hate country.
[quote]Shadowzz4 wrote:
I think the most universally despised type of music is country. How many times have you heard someone say, I listen to everything, except country, I hate country. And I do, hate country.[/quote]
I dunno man, at least in the States country music seems to be big (I’d imagine the biggest) force on radio and their artists still do really well in touring and record sales. These are all traditional methods of aggregating an artist’s/genre’s popularity and if you factored in much more modern measures of success they’d fare much lower, so you could say that amongst older people it’s more popular but I don’t think younger people HATE country. I certainly don’t, I just don’t listen to it or know anything about it. People hate genre’s that they don’t like but are exposed to “too much”. I never have to deal with country.
[quote]silverhydra wrote:
I heard that country and rap are polar opposites, if you like one, you hate the other, passionately.[/quote]
I originally had this idea five years ago listening to a Charlie Robison country song about chicks, bling, getting drunk, robbery, murder, running from the law, and being on death row. Can’t fit many more hip-hop cliches into one track! And of course 2 Live Crew did a Roy Orbison song decades ago, he might count as country…
Yeah, there’s been a few rap-country hybrids before. I’ve heard a rap version of Willie Nelson’s “I Gotta Get Drunk” a few years back, too, though I have no idea who did it. Really the only “new” thing we’re doing is that we picked crunkcore as the rap subgenre to go all redneck on… that and maybe the bowed bass parts, but that’s mostly just because that’s the instrument I had laying around so it was easiest.
I was actually about to make a lame not-as-insightful-as-I-thought post about why the most hated music is pop music, at the expense of people who hated pop, but then I got lazy.
The only music I truly can’t stand is newer rap, you know the guys who seem to have nothing better to say then, yea…uhhh…yea…uhhhh…bitches…huh…money. I like all other rap, Cube, Dre, Snoop, Eminem these guys have talent.
[quote]LarryDavid wrote:
Shadowzz4 wrote:
I think the most universally despised type of music is country. How many times have you heard someone say, I listen to everything, except country, I hate country. And I do, hate country.
I dunno man, at least in the States country music seems to be big (I’d imagine the biggest) force on radio and their artists still do really well in touring and record sales. These are all traditional methods of aggregating an artist’s/genre’s popularity and if you factored in much more modern measures of success they’d fare much lower, so you could say that amongst older people it’s more popular but I don’t think younger people HATE country. I certainly don’t, I just don’t listen to it or know anything about it. People hate genre’s that they don’t like but are exposed to “too much”. I never have to deal with country.[/quote]
Country is the least played thing on the radio up here in NY.
[quote]dday wrote:
The only music I truly can’t stand is newer rap, you know the guys who seem to have nothing better to say then, yea…uhhh…yea…uhhhh…bitches…huh…money. I like all other rap, Cube, Dre, Snoop, Eminem these guys have talent. [/quote]
I don’t know how Snoop doesn’t fit in with the money and bitches crowd. Or Dr. Dre, for that matter.
Don’t get me wrong, I think both are talented, but I also don’t judge a rapper based on subject matter alone.
I was actually about to make a lame not-as-insightful-as-I-thought post about why the most hated music is pop music, at the expense of people who hated pop, but then I got lazy.
Why do you hate pop? [/quote]
It’s lazy music with little-to-no talent and thought behind it. It largely sounds the same, annoys you for a couple weeks, and then is never heard again. You do have some pop artists that do actually put a lot of work into writing the music themselves, but the large majority simply regurgitate absolute nonsense. I’ve pretty much completely stopped listening to the radio because of this.
I agree about that new-age “hip-hop” like soulja boi and what not. Absolute crap too.
I mean, let’s make a fucking childrens song into a “hit”:
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
LarryDavid wrote:
Shadowzz4 wrote:
I think the most universally despised type of music is country. How many times have you heard someone say, I listen to everything, except country, I hate country. And I do, hate country.
I dunno man, at least in the States country music seems to be big (I’d imagine the biggest) force on radio and their artists still do really well in touring and record sales. These are all traditional methods of aggregating an artist’s/genre’s popularity and if you factored in much more modern measures of success they’d fare much lower, so you could say that amongst older people it’s more popular but I don’t think younger people HATE country. I certainly don’t, I just don’t listen to it or know anything about it. People hate genre’s that they don’t like but are exposed to “too much”. I never have to deal with country.
Country is the least played thing on the radio up here in NY.
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I guess it depends on what station you listen to. I think that overall country is big, however.
I wish I could find the article that mentioned the stats I was think of when I posted it. But in any event record sales and touring should show they are pretty big, atleast among a certain (I presume, older) crowd.
[quote]dday wrote:
The only music I truly can’t stand is newer rap, you know the guys who seem to have nothing better to say then, yea…uhhh…yea…uhhhh…bitches…huh…money. I like all other rap, Cube, Dre, Snoop, Eminem these guys have talent. [/quote]
I feel the same way.
Give me some old school rap and I’m good to go/ BTW I hate country more than anything in the world.
[quote]LarryDavid wrote:
dday wrote:
The only music I truly can’t stand is newer rap, you know the guys who seem to have nothing better to say then, yea…uhhh…yea…uhhhh…bitches…huh…money. I like all other rap, Cube, Dre, Snoop, Eminem these guys have talent.
I don’t know how Snoop doesn’t fit in with the money and bitches crowd. Or Dr. Dre, for that matter.
Don’t get me wrong, I think both are talented, but I also don’t judge a rapper based on subject matter alone. [/quote]
True, they do base on money and bitches but they have talent unlike 90% of the new class of rapper.
[quote]dday wrote:
LarryDavid wrote:
dday wrote:
The only music I truly can’t stand is newer rap, you know the guys who seem to have nothing better to say then, yea…uhhh…yea…uhhhh…bitches…huh…money. I like all other rap, Cube, Dre, Snoop, Eminem these guys have talent.
I don’t know how Snoop doesn’t fit in with the money and bitches crowd. Or Dr. Dre, for that matter.
Don’t get me wrong, I think both are talented, but I also don’t judge a rapper based on subject matter alone.
True, they do base on money and bitches but they have talent unlike 90% of the new class of rapper.[/quote]
I agree with your statement 100%. I’m not the biggest fan of rap and hip-hop, but you can tell the talent was there back then.
It’s lazy music with little-to-no talent and thought behind it. It largely sounds the same, annoys you for a couple weeks, and then is never heard again.
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The sound of pop has changed a lot over the years, and it varies a lot based on what sounds are big. And it’s not made by talent-less people. Some of the most talented producers and songwriters work to make those songs, and the performers have to be at least competent for the work to sell. That’s why you see guys like Timbaland and the Neptunes starting out in genres outside of pop, then working their way up to artists like Justin Timberlake, Britney Spears, and Gwen Stefani. Big pop artists can afford to work with the best.
I’m not sure what your idea of sounding the same is, but I see more differences in most pop music songs then I do for much more obscure genres, and that’s just by the nature of the music.
Yeah, but why hate a song because the performer didn’t write it? Some of the most talented songwriters work to make those songs. The way you interpret a written song is also important, just listen to two different versions of the same song and you’ll know it important. That’s where the performers play in. Most of the early rock artists started out with a lot of covers, and soul music is loaded with covers, and different renditions of the same song. The same for the blues. And we haven’t even gotten to pop standards.
Souljia Boy doesn’t choose to make smart music, he’s good at what he wants to do and his audience appreciates him. His only real crime was getting popular enough that people who didn’t like his “shtick” got to hear him and hated on him. Otherwise he would’ve been some respected cult act like Spank Rock or something.
And this isn’t to be confrontational, just in the spirit of discussion. No hard feelings.
