[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]ephrem wrote:
It is not me who wants to set the clock back 150 years.[/quote]No it’s me. You are clueless Ephrem. Like absolutely 100%, clean and swept, devoid of even one particle… clueless. We were never ruled by anything external to the privately held Christian morality of the new Testament. That’s the point. That kind of populous doesn’t need a lot of government because they govern themselves. Once enforcement is required it’s already over. I told Mufasa, who hates the “religious right”, to read Tocqueville’s “Democracy in America” for a portrait of the United States in the 1830’s. (the one that overthrew slavery before you try that one again). No answer. Never is with people who refuse to face the roots of our ascendancy.
Tocqueville was no Christian. He was a political scientist here to study our fledgling nation. A nation on the rise to utterly unprecedented greatness exactly because of her privately held Christian views. Being a rather astute Frenchy he told us that this was all well and good as long as those beliefs held, but disaster was a loomin large on the horizon if we did not. We did not not. Welcome to 21st century rotting decaying America. A culture of filth death and whoredom viewed as liberty and progress. How sick, but totally biblical. It’s exactly as it’s supposed to be.
That Sodom and Gomorrah forum right here on this site is a loud neon monument to the death of a once great nation. Enjoy your victory while you can. My God is not mocked. All throughout history His preferred sentence is giving people what they want. Over and over again. All throughout the prophets God says [quote]“I will give them over to their own corruption lusts and whoredoms”[/quote]. Only national repentance alone can prevent the soon coming final breath of this country. No politician or conservative agenda will make a gnats wortha difference. We must return to our creator and that firm reliance on His divine providence that even Jefferson knew better than to attempt to throw off the shackles of the English crown without.
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH, yeah I know. What I’m talkin about right now is why Sloth has me on ignore. He knows that people EXACTLY like me (even in theological details) were the mainstream while we are rising. To quote my dear friend :[quote]<<< Oh yes, Tirib, ‘your folks’ certainly were the face of early America, for the most part. But, look at their descendents now. Look at those folks’ country now. Eviscerated. Hollowed out. >>>[/quote]. He’s an honorable man and he spoke the truth too quick without thinkin about the faaaaar reaching implications for his belief in his church until after this was up n live. I challenged him to talk about it some more and he put me on ignore. He knows how that conversation would go. Yes indeed. That is absolutely relevant.
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Dear Tiribulus,
Your country was founded on the corpses of the native americans, built with the blood and sweat of african slaves and asian migrants. Your ancestors destroyed the bison, wolf and bear and raped the land’s recources.
In the process the USA became incredibly wealthy and powerful but it did so not based on christian values, but by virtue of greed.
There’s been no other nation like yours, and there will never be one like it again. It’s a special place, with special people who share an idea: work hard and get rich.
All those millions of immigrants from all over the world; did they think, “Let’s go to the USA because there we’re free to believe in god?”. No, they came for a better life, for wealth and opportunity.
Christianity was, not merely, the glue that kept the idea together, that gave a melting-pot society a way of staying homogenous: the shared american dream.
You want to go back to the 1830s? To a way of living the resembles the thoughts and ideas of the time? Without modern medicine, transport, communication, warfare and media? That’s impossible.
This is why you can never go back. Pining for the good old days is foolishness, and trying to mold modern society in that image is sheer madness.
Drumroll please…
Madness, however, is what I’ve come to expect from you.