Women Only Gym at Harvard

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Once again you show you know nothing about modern American politics or institutions. [/quote]

Weak. The majority of the right wingers labeling the elite American universities as “the left” have no experiences with such institutions, have never been to one, and have no qualifications, yet you speak as experts with the scant information you get from the “liberal media.” Heh.

Read the thread:

[quote]lixy wrote:
Well, the Saudi dude who gave millions of dollars to Harvard and was received with the utmost honors, did the same - beating Saddam’s figures by at least an order of magnitude.[/quote]

How did you miss this?

[quote]Gael wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Once again you show you know nothing about modern American politics or institutions.

Weak. The majority of the right wingers labeling the elite American universities as “the left” have no experiences with such institutions, have never been to one, and have no qualifications, yet you speak as experts with the scant information you get from the “liberal media.” Heh.
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My brother went to an Ivy League school. My sister went to MIT. I was recruited by Harvard. I am aware of the flaming liberal faculty and the rich boy students with liberal beliefs.

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Are Harvards Wahhabist donators blatant abusers of women and terrorist supporters?

Read the thread:

lixy wrote:
Well, the Saudi dude who gave millions of dollars to Harvard and was received with the utmost honors, did the same - beating Saddam’s figures by at least an order of magnitude.

How did you miss this?[/quote]

Received by who with the utmost honors? Harvard? Who did he donate money to? Harvard? Terrorists? Which ones? How do we know? Details please, that is why I asked.

If this guy is a known terrorist supporter the it makes Harvard even worse.

[quote]orion wrote:
A few hours a week?

In the least used gym?

Where´s the problem?

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It’s the principle. We have to tolerate and accommodate the most intolerable, rigid, and uncompromising people on earth. Fuck them, if they want compromise, let them be the first. It’s not our fault they have crazy oppressive rules for women. We certainly shouldn’t accommodate and condone their oppressiveness of women.

Let them not forbid or punish women to work out in a public environment. Or, this is America after all, let them buy their own space and put a crazy, fucked up muslim women only gym for themselves. This is Harvard, these are not poor students, let them get a membership to Curves which is women only all day everyday. Here they can get their sweat on at any of these locations with out screwing with the Harvard community at large.

I’d love to see someone squat in a burqa.

[quote]pat wrote:
I’d love to see someone squat in a burqa. [/quote]

There’s also the advantage that 12 women can share a single Burka membership if they take turns showing up at the gym.

It’s also useful to when you want to vote early and vote often, or so I’m told.

My bullet point opinions:

  • If students are paying mandatory gym fees through their tuition, which I did in college, this is fucking bullshit. If those women want accommodation, they can pay extra for it. As an excluded male, I’d also be raising fire and brimstone for a discount or refund from Harvard.

  • Is it really that fucking hard to find some baggy long-legged pants, a baggy long sleeved shirt, and a hood to lift in? You could pretty damn easily find clothing that could cover nearly every square inch of skin and also be used to train in.

  • Even if you couldn’t find the appropriate clothing, it’s not like you couldn’t possibly find a Curves or something in Boston.

  • If aggravates me a great deal when this small group of people have the gall to ask for everybody else to bend over backwards to accommodate them, when they could easily just make a little extra effort themselves! And then to have Harvard comply…

  • I’d be pretty fucking pissed off if I was in the middle of a session and was told that I had to leave immediately so that some women could exercise without fear of my unclean pig-eyes looking at them. Allah forbid that someone actually sees you when you voluntarily decide to go out in public!

  • If you’re that fucking pious, then stay your ass in a closet where nobody can see you! That’ll do it!

If you couldn’t tell, I’m pretty annoyed at the mere thought of being thrown out or denied entry to a gym to which I’ve paid money for access because some women demand that I cater to them!

Even at a private school like Harvard, I think if you’re forcing students to pay gym fees through mandatory tuition, then it’s all-or-none. If they want this type segregation, they can make gym fees voluntary.

Doesn’t really bother me. But, I’m waiting to see where they’ll draw the line at accommadating the demands of other groups.

[quote]pat wrote:
orion wrote:
A few hours a week?

In the least used gym?

Where´s the problem?

It’s the principle. We have to tolerate and accommodate the most intolerable, rigid, and uncompromising people on earth. Fuck them, if they want compromise, let them be the first. It’s not our fault they have crazy oppressive rules for women. We certainly shouldn’t accommodate and condone their oppressiveness of women.

Let them not forbid or punish women to work out in a public environment. Or, this is America after all, let them buy their own space and put a crazy, fucked up muslim women only gym for themselves. This is Harvard, these are not poor students, let them get a membership to Curves which is women only all day everyday. Here they can get their sweat on at any of these locations with out screwing with the Harvard community at large.

I’d love to see someone squat in a burqa. [/quote]

So they are the most uncompromising people on earth and yet you want them to compromise first?

Their level of stubbornness helps you in no way justifying your own?

If those were nice Viennese ladies that wanted some private time I´d give it to them, were I the owner and had I several gyms, and so I´d give it to nice veiled creatures of unidentifiable sex too.

Plus, give Muslim women a legitimate place to meet and talk to each other and watch how them compromise pretty soon.

A little bit of , how shall I put it, common sense and good manners work wonders in such situations.

But nay, let us stir up shit whenever Muslim women want a little more room for themselves and get rid of their veils for a time and then expect them to lose them sooner than later.

Yeah, cause that will work.

Poopyheads.

Complete Bullshit.

Just like the dumbass muslim grocery store clerks that refuse to ring up alcohol and pork, even tho its their fucking job. Or, the muslim taxi drivers that won’t pick-up anyone carrying alcohol. Fuck your accomodations.

[quote]orion wrote:
So they are the most uncompromising people on earth and yet you want them to compromise first?[/quote]

They compromised themselves when they crossed the pond. If they wast to squat in full muslim attire, fine. But if they want special gym time based soley on their religion - fuck them, and their nun-hatted religion.

You are totally clueless - or you are drunk and posting shit just to irritate.

What if it were a group of ultra-right wing conservative christian women? Something tells me - mainly your love of all things terroristic - you would call up sister lixy, and wage a jihad.

They have to take student-paid gym space for that? Horse shit.

[quote]A little bit of , how shall I put it, common sense and good manners work wonders in such situations.

But nay, let us stir up shit whenever Muslim women want a little more room for themselves and get rid of their veils for a time and then expect them to lose them sooner than later.

Yeah, cause that will work.

Poopyheads.
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They have to do that on university property? What’s stopping them from meeting at a fucking dorm room, or in a park, or anywhere else for that matter?

This is all about attention, and nothing more. How about we just ship their carbombing asses back to wherever the fuck they came from?

Fuck that - let’s send them to Austria so shit head here can put his money where his mouth is?

[quote]rainjack wrote:
orion wrote:
So they are the most uncompromising people on earth and yet you want them to compromise first?

They compromised themselves when they crossed the pond. If they wast to squat in full muslim attire, fine. But if they want special gym time based soley on their religion - fuck them, and their nun-hatted religion.

Their level of stubbornness helps you in no way justifying your own?

You are totally clueless - or you are drunk and posting shit just to irritate.

If those were nice Viennese ladies that wanted some private time I´d give it to them, were I the owner and had I several gyms, and so I´d give it to nice veiled creatures of unidentifiable sex too.

What if it were a group of ultra-right wing conservative christian women? Something tells me - mainly your love of all things terroristic - you would call up sister lixy, and wage a jihad.

Plus, give Muslim women a legitimate place to meet and talk to each other and watch how them compromise pretty soon.

They have to take student-paid gym space for that? Horse shit.

A little bit of , how shall I put it, common sense and good manners work wonders in such situations.

But nay, let us stir up shit whenever Muslim women want a little more room for themselves and get rid of their veils for a time and then expect them to lose them sooner than later.

Yeah, cause that will work.

Poopyheads.

They have to do that on university property? What’s stopping them from meeting at a fucking dorm room, or in a park, or anywhere else for that matter?

This is all about attention, and nothing more. How about we just ship their carbombing asses back to wherever the fuck they came from?

Fuck that - let’s send them to Austria so shit head here can put his money where his mouth is?

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I think we have roughly the same numbers of Muslims as you, percentage wise.

They are a officially recognized religious group since 18andfuckme, I don´t know.

Send them over.

Well westernize them faster than you can say “Damn, was I wrong”.

That is approximately 4,5 years.

Like TGunslinger said: sweatpants, sweatshirt with hood, no problem.

Why the hell are they even going to a western university if they’re all gung-ho about Islam? Go to college in Casablanca, for crissakes!!!1

Wow!

I’m speechless.

[quote]lixy wrote:
Wow!

I’m speechless.[/quote]

Why so speechless. Do you still think whites should have their own water fountain too?

Borrowing some legal analysis here:

[i] In 1998 a female weight lifter in Boston was awarded $5000 when she was denied admission to a male-only section of a gym which had a separate gym area for women. The Massachusetts Commission Against Discrimination made the ruling despite arguments that separate weight-lifting areas were necessary to prevent “sexual harassment,” and a finding that it did in fact tend to reduce sexual harassment. [Hassan and DiCenso v. City of Boston, et al., 20 MDLR 83]

Just a year earlier Superior Court Judge Burnes ruled that a "women only" health club violates Massachusetts' public accommodation statute by refusing to admit men, and could not justify its policy on privacy grounds. [Foster v. Back Bay Spas, d/b/a/ Healthworks Fitness Center, Suffolk Superior Court No. 96-7060 (1997).]

Although the legislature responded by exempting some health clubs which are established solely for use by one gender, that exemption does not appear to apply here because the gym is used by both genders together during most times of the day, and because Harvard receives public funds. [/i]

Accepting public funds get ya every time. Ask Catholic charities.

[quote]lixy wrote:
Wow!

I’m speechless.[/quote]

If only that were true.

[quote]dk44 wrote:
lixy wrote:
Wow!

I’m speechless.

Why so speechless. Do you still think whites should have their own water fountain too?[/quote]

Some are spouting hatred of the worst kind.

[quote]BostonBarrister wrote:
Borrowing some legal analysis here: [/quote]

Do you think anyone would want to go down that road against Harvard?

[quote]lixy wrote:
dk44 wrote:
lixy wrote:
Wow!

I’m speechless.

Why so speechless. Do you still think whites should have their own water fountain too?

Some are spouting hatred of the worst kind.[/quote]

Unlike the hatred of you and your fellow cowards?

Seriously - what hatred has been spouted here, and how is it worse than yours?

I don’t see what the issue is; you cannot exclude a group of people based on religon, race, gender, or anything else.

What if they closed the gym for two hours so that “only whites” could workout?