Will Indigo-3G work well for women? I want my g/f to try it with me but I do not want her to get an overbulked steroid look. Is there any risk of that with Indigo-3G?
[quote]Chrion777 wrote:
Will Indigo-3G work well for women? I want my g/f to try it with me but I do not want her to get an overbulked steroid look. Is there any risk of that with Indigo-3G?
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There are many women currently using Indigo-3G and logging their experience, i suggest you check some of them out. This is a product all walks of life could benefit from.
Read up on the various posted articles and ask questions in the current LiveSpill of the day to get further information from the experienced group of users.
Some popular and successful women Indigo-3G Logs…
“Overbulked steroid look”?? Good lord.
[quote]wallstrt wrote:
“Overbulked steroid look”?? Good lord.[/quote]
Yeah…On that phrase alone I would recommend that the OP and his GF just start lifting weights and enjoy the newbie gains together. No one with the slightest bit of actual training knowledge would ever suggest something so retarded.
[quote]Chrion777 wrote:
Will Indigo-3G work well for women? I want my g/f to try it with me but I do not want her to get an overbulked steroid look. Is there any risk of that with Indigo-3G?
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I will literally give you every cent I have to my name if you can find a way to make your girlfriend have the “overbulked steroid look” without using actual steroids.
[quote]i_am_ketosis wrote:
[quote]wallstrt wrote:
“Overbulked steroid look”?? Good lord.[/quote]
Yeah…On that phrase alone I would recommend that the OP and his GF just start lifting weights and enjoy the newbie gains together. No one with the slightest bit of actual training knowledge would ever suggest something so retarded.[/quote]
I agree with this 100%. Indigo is not some magic pill, nor is it for inexperienced trainees. If you haven’t already build a solid base of strength, size, and knowledge, then you probably don’t need it.
[quote]i_am_ketosis wrote:
[quote]wallstrt wrote:
“Overbulked steroid look”?? Good lord.[/quote]
Yeah…On that phrase alone I would recommend that the OP and his GF just start lifting weights and enjoy the newbie gains together. No one with the slightest bit of actual training knowledge would ever suggest something so retarded.[/quote]
It’s not retarded.
I’m well aware that it’s virtually impossible for women to get that look no matter how hard they train. However Indigo-3G is a 'magic game changer that makes muscle grow by leaps and bounds while sheddding fat" so I just thought I’d ask.
If you have something that pushes nutrients into the cell and causes muscle growth there is the potential for that. I’m well aware that in addition to that the testosterone in the steroids is what overbulks women.
Why do you people always assume that just because someone is newer on the training ladder that it means they don’t know anything that they are talking about.
P.S. every time I post on here I get hate mail back. I think all of your testosterone protocols are screwing with your head. I never get that on any other board.
Last time I tried to ask some legitimate questions about the biochemistry of Biotest products and how it might effect certain diereses only to get a bunch of non-sense back.
Maybe one of you could explain, in detail why Spike is supposedly contra-indicated for fibromyalsia. I was told this on the thread but no explanation. I know thiamine is good for it so I would have expected the CNS analog to work well. No answers though even though there is the appearance of people who should be able to answer the question.
[quote]howie424 wrote:
[quote]i_am_ketosis wrote:
[quote]wallstrt wrote:
“Overbulked steroid look”?? Good lord.[/quote]
Yeah…On that phrase alone I would recommend that the OP and his GF just start lifting weights and enjoy the newbie gains together. No one with the slightest bit of actual training knowledge would ever suggest something so retarded.[/quote]
I agree with this 100%. Indigo is not some magic pill, nor is it for inexperienced trainees. If you haven’t already build a solid base of strength, size, and knowledge, then you probably don’t need it.
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One of the training logs is from a 350 women. She looks like she’s made great progress. Since all the published studies of C3G says it’s beneficial for Obsesity and insulin resistance I would expect that it would work at least as well for this population who would need it even more.
Personally I’m 215 with about 31% BF right now so I have a long way to go. One time I worked out really consistently and got from 195 to 160. I got in good shape but never was working to get huge. I’m just an amature trainer admittedly but you have to start somewhere.
[quote]Chrion777 wrote:
[quote]i_am_ketosis wrote:
[quote]wallstrt wrote:
“Overbulked steroid look”?? Good lord.[/quote]
Yeah…On that phrase alone I would recommend that the OP and his GF just start lifting weights and enjoy the newbie gains together. No one with the slightest bit of actual training knowledge would ever suggest something so retarded.[/quote]
It’s not retarded.
I’m well aware that it’s virtually impossible for women to get that look no matter how hard they train. However Indigo-3G is a 'magic game changer that makes muscle grow by leaps and bounds while sheddding fat" so I just thought I’d ask.
If you have something that pushes nutrients into the cell and causes muscle growth there is the potential for that. I’m well aware that in addition to that the testosterone in the steroids is what overbulks women.
Why do you people always assume that just because someone is newer on the training ladder that it means they don’t know anything that they are talking about.
P.S. every time I post on here I get hate mail back. I think all of your testosterone protocols are screwing with your head. I never get that on any other board.
Last time I tried to ask some legitimate questions about the biochemistry of Biotest products and how it might effect certain diereses only to get a bunch of non-sense back.
Maybe one of you could explain, in detail why Spike is supposedly contra-indicated for fibromyalsia. I was told this on the thread but no explanation. I know thiamine is good for it so I would have expected the CNS analog to work well. No answers though even though there is the appearance of people who should be able to answer the question.
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Fair enough.
Yes, Indigo is well touted as being a very impressive supplement. I don’t use it so I can’t comment on it, but if it had the potential to give women an “overbulked steroid look” every guy on the planet would be taking it and we would all be huge. Check out the training logs and the bootcamp videos. None of those women looked anything like what you described, yet all had tons of training experience. It simply doesn’t make sense to assume Indigo(or anything other than steroids)would have an effect like you described.
No one ever said you don’t know anything, I’m sure you know a thing or too about lifting and nutrition(if only a thing or two). That doesn’t change the fact that beginner questions stick out like a sore thumb here, and there is all too much “tell me the answer so I don’t have to find it myself” mentality. Most of the people that got anywhere with lifting did it through hard work of their own. Granted, we all had some guidance along the way and asked lots of beginner questions, but we also read a lot and educated ourselves rather than ask someone else for the answer.
You might enjoy yourself better on those other forums then? Don’t really know what to tell you. You need to have a thicker skin around here and it’s not for everyone.
If I recall correctly, it was HOT-ROX that they made claims about improving fibromyalsia symptoms. I honestly don’t have any idea as to how or why it did this. Don’t have fibromyalsia myself nor do I know anyone who does so I don’t research it. Have you tried a fibromyalsia forum?
No supplement can come within a million miles of imitating the effects of steroids.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Chrion777 wrote:
Will Indigo-3G work well for women? I want my g/f to try it with me but I do not want her to get an overbulked steroid look. Is there any risk of that with Indigo-3G?[/quote]
I will literally give you every cent I have to my name if you can find a way to make your girlfriend have the “overbulked steroid look” without using actual steroids.[/quote]
I’d like to sign up for this offer if it’s still valid. I just need to find a guinea pig, I mean, client. 
Daily neck work, half-gallon of milk a day, and weighted oblique work, among other things.
[quote]Chrion77 wrote:
I’m 215 with about 31% BF right now so I have a long way to go. One time I worked out really consistently and got from 195 to 160.[/quote]
How tall are you? How long ago were you 160 and “in great shape”? What happened to cause so much weight to come back on - injury, drastic lifestyle change, what’s up?
I get the impression that you and your gal might not currently have any momentum going with proper training and nutrition, so I’d actually suggest you get that foundation in place before you invest the money on Indigo for the both of you.
Because 60% of the time, they don’t know what they’re talking about. Everytime.
[quote]P.S. every time I post on here I get hate mail back. I think all of your testosterone protocols are screwing with your head. I never get that on any other board.
Last time I tried to ask some legitimate questions about the biochemistry of Biotest products and how it might effect certain diereses only to get a bunch of non-sense back.
Maybe one of you could explain, in detail why Spike is supposedly contra-indicated for fibromyalsia. I was told this on the thread but no explanation.[/quote]
It’s not us, it’s you, the questions you’re asking, and the answers you’re expecting. You actually got some solid advice in that thread. That dude who was giving a lot of that advice, Lonnie, is a registered nurse and he pretty clearly explained why you can’t get the answers you’re looking for, and he did suggest an alternative.
[quote]Chrion777 wrote:
Will Indigo-3G work well for women? I want my g/f to try it with me but I do not want her to get an overbulked steroid look. Is there any risk of that with Indigo-3G?
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Indigo-3G works well for women. She’ll need to lift for years and years with a specific hypertrophy plan to get an overbulked steroid look. She’ll need to purposefully bulk and continue to grow in order to ever get there. Will Indigo-3G usage fix her fat cells and allow her to burn fat and build some muscle? Sure.
I’m sure you’re right about the 60% thing, but why be so rough on the other 40%, or even the 60% that are just trying to learn.
I’m 5’11 @ 31% body fat. I moved and somehow fell out of my routine, stopped going to the gym, I kept the weight off for a good while and then at a certain point it started coming back on quick and I never got myself back on the program. Obviously I know that I need to build a new strong foundation. I definitely have enough knowledge to build a firm base I just have to get the motivation and commitment in line. After that I know there’s tons of resources on here to get me to the next level.
I’m getting married in 2.5 months, hence the desire to accelerate. So far I 'm on Day 2 of Indigo-3G. I’m down 1.5lbs and already feel extra pumped.
When I was working out my routine was cardio 4-5 days per week, Weights 2-3 days per week, split routine, I was benching about 140, which I’m sure is nothing by the standards of the people on here. Now I’m more interested in getting bigger, not monster, just healthy and improve my physique.
As for the info on the Fibro, most everyone just said they couldn’t make medical claims and were afraid I was going to come sue them for bad advice. Meanwhile I’ve seen all sorts of other types of cutting edge advice and claims made on this site and no one is worried about that.
Maybe I was expecting too much in regards to Spike, but hoping for someone to get into theory on TPP/ThTp in the brain and how decreasing Dopamine D1 output and increasing receptor density in the prefrontal cortex might also corospond to reduced pain processing. I know in general reducing the output would be contraindicated, not sure about the incresaing receptor density. Anyways, hence that is why it remains an unanswered question.
I was already aware that HOT-ROX was the formula that may improve Fibro because of it’s effect on T3, but I wasn’t looking for info on that. If I wanted that I would just have her take Cytomel.
[quote]corstijeir wrote:
[quote]Chrion777 wrote:
Will Indigo-3G work well for women? I want my g/f to try it with me but I do not want her to get an overbulked steroid look. Is there any risk of that with Indigo-3G?
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Indigo-3G works well for women. She’ll need to lift for years and years with a specific hypertrophy plan to get an overbulked steroid look. She’ll need to purposefully bulk and continue to grow in order to ever get there. Will Indigo-3G usage fix her fat cells and allow her to burn fat and build some muscle? Sure.[/quote]
Thank you! 
Well, with respect to the fibromyalgia issue, I will simply say that if you keep working on it, you’ll find something that helps. Even if you hit plenty of dead ends along the way.
The most important advice (and that you got in the other thread) is to keep the medical professionals involved. Since any tweaking of neurotransmitter levels (or other levels) carries significant risks, it’s important to be aware of them and manage the risk appropriately. Doctors (MD) and pharmacists are both highly trained to advise on these issues.
Good luck on resolving that, as well as both your success with diet and training.
[quote]corstijeir wrote:
She’ll need to lift for years and years with a specific hypertrophy plan to get an overbulked steroid look. She’ll need to purposefully bulk and continue to grow in order to ever get there.[/quote]
No. She will need to actually take steroids to get an “overbulked steroid look.”
It has nothing to do with length of training or going on a bulk as you are saying.
No natural, particularly a woman, is EVER going to get the “steroid look” without taking steroids for fucks sake.
[quote]Chrion777 wrote:
Will Indigo-3G work well for women? I want my g/f to try it with me but I do not want her to get an overbulked steroid look. Is there any risk of that with Indigo-3G?
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Can I ask what her current build and fitness goals are?
I can’t speak to Indigo-3G, but if she’s already feeling bulky because of a poor diet, then lifting won’t fix that. IMO, exercise takes a backseat to diet, and supplements like Indigo-3G are probably a distant third place somewhere. People who struggle with their diets sometimes complain of getting bulky. It’s not usually too much lean mass that’s the problem. Of the women here who complain that they’ve had to change sizes to accommodate muscle growth, all have intentionally eaten to gain mass. It can’t happen without fuel.
I have no experience with Indigo, but I’ve seen lots of women lift over the past few years. Tiny women like Kimba and Snap, who log in the Over 35 forum, are still tiny. I think both of them are like 5’4" 110 lbs even after lifting as heavy as they can for years.
I started out as a lean runner who already had healthy eating habits. I gained about 8 pounds scale weight the first year of lifting, but my clothing size didn’t change a bit. In fact, I was smaller in some of my measurements. I’m not quite 5’2" and wear a size 0 or 2 petite, so lifting hasn’t exactly made me look HUGE and JACKED! LOL! If I’m all pumped and flexing you can tell I lift, but just walking around in my everyday life not so much.
On another note, some women just want to have very lean arms. I had a friend who’s trainer had her start lifting weights. She stopped lifting because she was getting a bicep bump and thought it looked “manly” and her scale weight started to climb a bit. If your girl’s ideal body aesthetic is just to be super thin, then she may feel “bulky” even with a bit of visible muscle. Also, if she can’t tolerate seeing her scale weight climb a little as she trades some fat for muscle, then she may not be happy with it.
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
No supplement can come within a million miles of imitating the effects of steroids.[/quote]
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[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Chrion777 wrote:
Will Indigo-3G work well for women? I want my g/f to try it with me but I do not want her to get an overbulked steroid look. Is there any risk of that with Indigo-3G?[/quote]
I will literally give you every cent I have to my name if you can find a way to make your girlfriend have the “overbulked steroid look” without using actual steroids.[/quote]
I’d like to sign up for this offer if it’s still valid. I just need to find a guinea pig, I mean, client. Daily neck work, half-gallon of milk a day, and weighted oblique work, among other things.
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Okay, be prepared to win at least 17 dollars!
I should look up “neck work”. I’ve never really understood what the hell people were talking about when they said they trained their neck.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
I will literally give you every cent I have to my name if you can find a way to make your girlfriend have the “overbulked steroid look” without using actual steroids.[/quote]
I’d like to sign up for this offer if it’s still valid. I just need to find a guinea pig, I mean, client. Daily neck work, half-gallon of milk a day, and weighted oblique work, among other things.[/quote]
Okay, be prepared to win at least 17 dollars![/quote]
Neat. I can get two and a half gallons of gas.
It usually refers, literally, to the neck - the chunk of meat between the traps, above the collarbones and under the ears.