Planning on doin a Winstrol oral cycle, of 50 mg ed 6 weeks, any user experiences on this type of cycle, any PCT needed at all? and btw looking to define and gain around 5-10 pounds of muscle
Yes (plan: 50 mg/ED for 6 weeks) but I had to stop after 4 weeks because of severe joint and gradually growing back pains (kidneys?). This was my first and I had no PCT (mistake): nasty cramps afterwards. Strength gains, no mass. I have used injectable winny afterwards but only together with test. Oral only not recommendable.
so winny oral caused your joint pains?
how about stacking t-bol with this 6 week winny cycle for some mass gains? any user experiences?
As a rule, joints respond negatively to winny. Perhaps it has some kind of a drying effect. Instead of an oral winny, I’m using Oxandrolone (Anavar). Same effects, no joint pains & milder for kidneys.
[quote]bizzy51689 wrote:
so winny oral caused your joint pains?[/quote]
Both injectable and oral winny will cause a lot of users joint pain. I’d also not recommend a winny-only cycle. Stack a moderate amount of testosterone with it and you’ll have much better results.
Im taking test with 50mg oraql winny and I too am having back aches(kidney aches?) and find my joints to be a little dry. Its exactly like Prefab has explained it. I regret being cheap and not going inject on that one. Im seeing great results, really just trying to evaluate my tolerance levels for the oral, I dont want to take less than 50mg so Im thinking of dropping it all together.
Ive been trying to adjust everything to help my back and kidneys with little avail. This is the second time I have included winny in my cycle and for the money I just dont know if its worth including in future cycles.
You might wanna try a Test/Winny/Deca cycle.
Everyone says that Deca “lubes” up their joints, and it should help combat the Winny’s effect on the joints.
But of course, then you’ve got yourself a much larger cycle than 350mg Winny a week…
I actually experienced back pain before when I used Zambon inj Winny 50. I was using 50mg EOD and I attributed it to growth. Now I look back and yeah it prob was the winny. I just needed to hear it from somebody. Im dropping it and sticking to Test/Eq/Pro. The pain is hampering my work and my workout. Def not worth it.
Fish oil and glucosamine are great for your joints. also curcumin!
you dug up a year old thread to blurb some common knowledge to some guy that doesnt even post anymore???
[quote]Game_over wrote:
you dug up a year old thread to blurb some common knowledge to some guy that doesnt even post anymore???[/quote]
Yes, for the next person who is looking at old threads for info like me!
You seem very proud of your accomplishment.
Did you wake up this morning planning on hijacking a thread and digging up a thread of marginal importance?
No, nor did i plan on pissing off vets! just one of those days. won’t happen again!!
yea I can add to the joint pain, they feel rough… besides being rough on the liver. On a side note, did anyones shit start turning green? Anyways, Milk Thistle and Glucosamine 3x a day, is a must.
[quote]G.I. Joe Galway wrote:
No, nor did i plan on pissing off vets! just one of those days. won’t happen again!![/quote]
I’m not a vet and I don’t think anyone is pissed off. No big deal