o.k. guys I know I am going to get shit for orals and oral winstrol only ! but here goes
proper intro 31 yr old male, ive been training on/off for around ten yrs, 3 yrs hard. I love pushing iron
<i even hang iron for a living ironworker’s kick ass>
5’7" 180 lbs on best days …diet well thats not my best kept secret
I consume 160 grams protein or better via protein drinks food
im taking fish oils
and joint support supplements
even limit myself to 4-5 beers a week :[
I have started an oral winny cycle 10 mg British dragons. started out 5 days 10 Mg, 5days 20, up to 30 Mg’s now and my questions start with minimum dosage recommendations should I split them up or consume all at once? how long before exercise should I consume? what should be used if any at the end of cycle got about 80 10 mg tabs to go
I have been scavenging T-Nation isteroid and other sites I know i am going catch some shit for this cycle. but with the work I do for a living a heavy mass cycle would be hell on me in Florida this time of year “winter please”
every body has to break in some where
some positve input would be greatly appreciated
first thing’s first.
-Don’t consume ANY alcohol while on a 17aa product imo.
-Did you get your bloodwork done to check out your liver enzymes before you started? A lot of people have high ALT and don’t even know it.
-What kind of liver protection are you using? If none, go get some liv52 and milk thistle.
17aa products make 2 passes through your liver. What is known as “first pass” is avoided in injectable substances. Winstrol will kill your liver if run too high/long or without any protection.
I can’t advise on the dosing protocols as I don’t know them. But I can advise you to keep your liver safe.
bring up ur protiens to at least 1g per body pound of body weight, perferably 1.5g. this gonna help u keep as much muscle as possible during cutting, but not sure if u even need to worry about losing muscle cuz ur cutting on AAS.
i got some winny lieing around and am very curious how its working for you. if u can post ur calerie/carb/protien daily intake and your cardio routine along with your starting Body fat, ur body fat now, and if u can even keep me updated on your bodyfat progress that would be much appreciated.
sorry i cant help you with winny cuz i myself have yet to try it, good luck.
I ran at 50mg ED for 5 weeks with good results you could even run 50mg EOD. I stopped at 5 with the intent of running it for 6 because of what I was almost sure was kidney pain (severe pain in my lower back) and joint pain. Those sides subsided in about 3 days after I ceased. I was taking oral this last time.
But I ran it once before that at 50mg EOD injectable and experienced those same sides. I honestly don’t think I will use it again and if I do I think I will only run it for 4weeks. I think I started experiencing the sides at around week 3 or so.
It doesn’t matter when you take em. Some people split them, IMO it makes no difference. Do whatever you like.
One thing you need to do is to drink a LOT of water, almost certainly up your intake from whatever it is now. As T-MIA alluded to orals are hard on your kidneys.
How did you go with it, any hair loss stuff going on, i am just about to go through thailand pick up my next course, don’t know weather to go for the d-bols or the winstrol, ill be stacking some sus, nolv as well.
All so any one got any other good ideas for my next course, winstrol or d-bol…??? thank you.
joeyd no I did not get blood work done before hand. I am working out of town for the last 6 months and have not established a physician here… where i am working but I am rather on a small dose i think, honestly i was expecting worse side effects i feel great i am rather more focused and calm lately …with the exception of when i get off the phone with my anger inducing wife…lol j/k
hey zone, at one point you probably didnt know what the hell you were doing either… with all do respect my well rounded mentors. this is my first go! and i have done a bit of research…some conflicting i suppose
my nutrition isnt the greatest i have am still learning how to properly calculate plan and conform…But my nutrition is the best now its ever been and i am actually enjoying the challenge
t-mia did you quit your cycle all at once? taper use any recovery method?
if your in miami we are not far from each other brother