Winstrol and Primobolan Cycle

I am just starting a primobolon and winstrol cycle for purposes of getting cut. I was wondering if I shoudl be lifting 4 sets of 15 as opposed to 4 sets of 6 and if i should still be doing a different muscle group each part of the week.

Can you guys give me suggestions as to what would be the best approach for lifting on this cycle?

I was thinking of a somewhat less suppressive cycle ivolving primo as well, what do the vets think.

look dude you need to learn how to train and diet BEFORE you start using aas.

you didnt tell us your diet, your stats, your training history. we cant help you with the info youve given us.

I aint sur emy body fat %, but i eat a 1500-200 calorie diet high in protein and low in carbs. I am 5 foot 10 and weigh 198. I also do cardio 4 days a week for 45 minutes a session and lift at night.

But my question is since i wanna get cut up know and am using a winstrol primobolan stack, should i be lifting 4 sets of 15 now as opposed to my old routine of 4 sets of 6 to get big? Also, shoudl I still keep working out a seperate muscle group each day of the week?

Help would be greatly appreciated.

You don’t need AAS to get cut. When I was natural I stayed a lean 6% for like 2 years solid. If you do enough 40 minutes of cardio after a one hour workout at least 5 times a week, you will be cut in no time. As far as the diet goes, protein intake is very important. The general rule I follow when leaning is this: Have a serving of protien at least every 2-3 hours while awake and one right before going to bed - (usually something that contains calcium cassinate which is a slower absorbed protein).

As far as workouts go, increasing the reps is not going burn fat, Keep your reps lower and continue doing whatever it is you were doing but keep in mind that it is good to change it up from time to time so your body doesn’t adapt.

Have a pure whey protein shake right before the gym. I do this to raise the amount of amino acids in my system to prevent becoming catabolic during cardio.
Always do weights first. You want burn as much of the sugar off in your body by pumping the iron so when you begin cardio, your body will be forced to look other places for energy.

Also if you did cardio first and weights second, you are more likely to run out of energy and become catabolic during your workout

I have learned that after a weight workout there is about a 40 minutes to an hour of time to get food in before your muscles begin to break themselves down for energy

This is the perfect window to do your cardio in

It takes about 20 minutes of doing cardio at you target heart rate before you begin to actually burn body fat. Energy used before this is from fatty acids in your blood

This means if you do 40 minutes of cardio, only 20 minutes is spent burning actual bodyfat.

Make sure you stay within your target heart rate. If you go too fast you will begin to burn sugars, and catabolize muscle - plus you will be stimulating your muscles to remodel themselves to suit long distance running
If you go to slow you just won’t burn nearly as much calories.

Your target heart rate can be calculated using the tables on most cardio equipment, or do a google search as there are many calculators on the net.

I have found personally a good range to stay in is between 120-130 bpm.

Immediately after you are finished your cardio have a protien/carbohydrate shake. You need to replace the muscle glyclogen you have depleated as well as give your body some protein to repair itself with. This energy will not be stored as fat but will be instead sucked up by your muscles.

You will be in a heightened metabolic state for several hours following your workout and if you don’t pig out on carbs will continue to burn body fat.

The rest of your meals for the day from suppertime on should be low carb- high protien -high vegetable - high in dietary fats.

The best and worst cardio equipment to use for fat burning

The goal here is not to kill yourself, you want to maintain a nice even pace, throughout. You should be able to still hold a conversation. If you find you are out of breath and can’t this is your cue to slow down a little. It isn’t important if you break a sweat or not what is important is that you are able to finish the entire 40 minutes of cardio without having to stop before hand because of lack of endurance, or muscle cramps or whatever other reason.

Worst:
The bike: it just does not burn enough calories for the amount of time you use it, and if you increase the tension, you will fatigue your muscles long before you finish your 40 minute cardio sesion.

Stair Climber

Same as the bike you its real hard on the legs but burns way more sugars then fat because it forces you to use explosive energy - and your fast twitch muscles aren’t well equiped to burn oxygen and fat. So for the amount of work you put in to it the amount of fat you burn is not worth it.

The rowing machine

This is supprisingly pretty good and not very catabolic for your muscles, and you get a great ab workout. I have used this in combination with the different cardio machines when I am board of just doing one. I personally
would not do this for the entire 40 minutes though.

The tread mill

Its O.k to walk quickly on this with the machine set at an angle, but never run because running is extremely hard on your joints and very catabolic to your muscle mass.

THe Best:
The elyptical trainer - EFX machine.

These are hands down the absolute best machines for burning fat. There almost absolutely no strain on your joints, it is a very smooth machine, and for the amount of time you are on the machine you burn the most amount of calories then any other cardio machine period. It is also the least catabolic.

In addition to what p22 said, which is for the right on the money (though you can do cardio right in the morning) to find your max heart rate, you need to subtract your age from 220. (226 if you are a woman). Now based on this number you can train at different heart rate percentages for different training effects. The 50-60% zone is low intense but 85% of calories will come from fat… which is good. 60-70 is similar but you will burn more calories, again 85% from fat. 70-80 is good for endurance and heart health with only 50 percent of calories coming from fat. 80-90 is highly intense, catabolic, and 15 percent coming from fat. Maybe next time the machine asks you to grip the handles for proper heart rate, you won’t tell it to fuck off.

holy fucking shit p-22.

you better stop making posts like that, your gonna make the rest of us look like assholes. then again i guess we’re already assholes, especially drago!

Bison34 is from Manitoba: The University of Manitoba “Bisons” also my school
I have one more yr of eligibility left and have being toying with the ideal of playing some LB next season just for the hell of it!

That is just my name. I dont play football there.

My favorite form of cardio is kickboxing. Although its tough to keep the carbs in check because you don’t want to hit the wall when someones trying to hit you.