Armed teacher in America
[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
308 or 223 ?[/quote]
It’s a 5.56 that can shoot .223.
But if the questions is, “do I prefer the .308 (or, rather 7.62x51mm)” — yes.
This is just something I bought on a whim. The fit and finish were just very impressive and a well-made weapon.
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I am holding out for the 308
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A Windham AR-10 (or whatever they would call it)? Or just a .308 in general?
I am not a fan of the AR-10 variations. The .308 has two strengths — (1) knock down power and doubling as a hunting round and (2) the ability to reach out and touch someone.
The armalite platform is great for #1, but it’s just not a super-accurate set up compared to an FNAR or any of the hunting-rifle based platforms — long story short the round is not held 100% true every time in AR setups, so it’s just not quite as accurate.
(Note the ABOVE IS A GENEALITY. There are exceptions with match-type weapons. DPMS has one for example.)
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Bush master makes a nice semi auto 308, I would have already bought Rugers Ranch 30 if it could handle NATO rounds
[quote]Alpha F wrote:
Armed teacher in America[/quote]
My wife is a retired teacher, 2 of her fellow teachers were old cops and 1 was retired SEAL
That was the science department
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]Alpha F wrote:
Armed teacher in America[/quote]
My wife is a retired teacher, 2 of her fellow teachers were old cops and 1 was retired SEAL[/quote]
That is awesome!
I posted that as a joke; my theory would be to make hello kitty, mickey mouse and cute animal pics painted AR-15 as a way to make it more attractive to the teachers that were repelled by guns.
My husband told me that a jury would have a bias against you if, for example, you used an AR-15 for self defense in your home because it gives a perception of you being a person that wants to kill people.
It creates a feeling that you are a “killer/must love killing” because you chose an assault rifle as a weapon of self-defense.
And the feel that it has because it looks menacing, or the such.
The Hello Kitty rifle I posted is an actual AR-15.
The ladies husband had this done specially for his wife.
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
No Steyr AUG
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Its like the Lego of guns.
[quote]Alpha F wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]Alpha F wrote:
Armed teacher in America[/quote]
My wife is a retired teacher, 2 of her fellow teachers were old cops and 1 was retired SEAL[/quote]
That is awesome!
I posted that as a joke; my theory would be to make hello kitty, mickey mouse and cute animal pics painted AR-15 as a way to make it more attractive to the teachers that were repelled by guns.
My husband told me that a jury would have a bias against you if, for example, you used an AR-15 for self defense in your home because it gives a perception of you being a person that wants to kill people.
It creates a feeling that you are a “killer/must love killing” because you chose an assault rifle as a weapon of self-defense.
And the feel that it has because it looks menacing, or the such.
The Hello Kitty rifle I posted is an actual AR-15.
The ladies husband had this done specially for his wife.
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nice peace 
Thirdruffian, you said that you purchased these 80% kits during the previous assault weapon ban?
I gotta be honest, you got my gears turning on trying this. Question though: Since I am by no means an experienced gun guy, how tough is it to assemble these rifles?
Buying my first handgun next month as well, and will obtain my CPL license. Any suggestions? Seems like allot of people like to carry Glock, but I was looking at a Walther P99 the other day.
Thanks, bro.
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
I gotta be honest, you got my gears turning on trying this. Question though: Since I am by no means an experienced gun guy, how tough is it to assemble these rifles?
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It was extremely easy for me, but I was in the Army, know Aramlite-based weapons inside and out and grew up very rural with knowledge of both guns and mechanical things. I also am a mechanical engineer who owns a drilling company — and worked as a roughneck. I put the kits together in about 45 minutes in my garage.
I have an Army buddy who knows guns but not tools. The first one took him a weekend.
My corporate lawyer, who was an Army pilot and handy, did it in a few hours.
I am not a fan of the GLOCK for concealed carry, although it is an amazing weapon for holster carry — reason being the tigger pull is relatively light and the safety is on the trigger.
I would opt for a revolver since you are new, or a weapon with a manual safety.
I don’t know enough about the Walther to have an opinion, but its a very personal decision.
For example, I have very large hands, and have trouble with some pistols because most of my hand seems to hang off the bottom of the handle.
It appears to be a “double stack” weapon, so it will be thick and relatively hard to conceal.
GLOCKS have this issue as well, although I think they may now have a single-stack.
I will say the .40 is a nice round. It’s as accurate as a 9mm, but with markedly more stopping power.
I would avoid 9mm, and either step down to a .380 (because the pistols are downright small, like a Sig P232) or up to a .40 or .45
If you go for a revolver, .38 is fine for a pocket pistol. Small revolvers are unpleasant to shoot, however.
[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
I gotta be honest, you got my gears turning on trying this. Question though: Since I am by no means an experienced gun guy, how tough is it to assemble these rifles?
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It was extremely easy for me, but I was in the Army, know Aramlite-based weapons inside and out and grew up very rural with knowledge of both guns and mechanical things. I also am a mechanical engineer who owns a drilling company — and worked as a roughneck. I put the kits together in about 45 minutes in my garage.
I have an Army buddy who knows guns but not tools. The first one took him a weekend.
My corporate lawyer, who was an Army pilot and handy, did it in a few hours.
I am not a fan of the GLOCK for concealed carry, although it is an amazing weapon for holster carry — reason being the tigger pull is relatively light and the safety is on the trigger.
I would opt for a revolver since you are new, or a weapon with a manual safety.
I don’t know enough about the Walther to have an opinion, but its a very personal decision.
For example, I have very large hands, and have trouble with some pistols because most of my hand seems to hang off the bottom of the handle.
It appears to be a “double stack” weapon, so it will be thick and relatively hard to conceal.
GLOCKS have this issue as well, although I think they may now have a single-stack.
I will say the .40 is a nice round. It’s as accurate as a 9mm, but with markedly more stopping power.
I would avoid 9mm, and either step down to a .380 (because the pistols are downright small, like a Sig P232) or up to a .40 or .45
If you go for a revolver, .38 is fine for a pocket pistol. Small revolvers are unpleasant to shoot, however.[/quote]
You sound old school I bought Revolvers back in the 80s because they were not proven like they are today . I had an old Marlin semi auto 22 that I shot ( I swear 100,000 rounds through and never cleaned it . It never misfired . Technology has come along way since the original 1911s . YOu may have this gun for the rest of your life and never buy another gun. Get the best is my opinion . I like the 40 cals semi auto high capacity mag also . Just my opinion
I do have to admit my SW 38 stainless is my favorite piece
[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
How much was it?[/quote]
$1300. I believe list is $1600.
I had a cougar snifing around the barn the last couple days. May be making myself a rug.
Nobody and no thing messes with my horses.
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I’ve always had shot guns and low magazine capacity hunting rifles, if I was looking for something similar to this is this the one to get? I’d like something I can run some rounds through without breaking the bank.
Cabella’s has these on sale, I am wondering if they are that much of a step down from the model featured in this thread:
http://www.cabelas.com/firearms-windham-weaponary-centerfire-tactical-rifles.shtml
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
Cabella’s has these on sale, I am wondering if they are that much of a step down from the model featured in this thread:
http://www.cabelas.com/firearms-windham-weaponary-centerfire-tactical-rifles.shtml[/quote]
It’s a nice rifle. It is a “step down” from the CSI, but a great infantryman rifle.
I was a designated marksman (kind of a hibrid between a sniper and a grunt) for most of my tours, so I am picky with my rifles, even toys.
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
How much was it?[/quote]
$1300. I believe list is $1600.
I had a cougar snifing around the barn the last couple days. May be making myself a rug.
Nobody and no thing messes with my horses.
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I’ve always had shot guns and low magazine capacity hunting rifles, if I was looking for something similar to this is this the one to get? I’d like something I can run some rounds through without breaking the bank.
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.223 are not horribly expensive, but if you are just screwing around you can’t beat a .22.
I’d go get a Rugar 10/22 in some variation and a bunch of 25 round magazines.
[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
How much was it?[/quote]
$1300. I believe list is $1600.
I had a cougar snifing around the barn the last couple days. May be making myself a rug.
Nobody and no thing messes with my horses.
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I’ve always had shot guns and low magazine capacity hunting rifles, if I was looking for something similar to this is this the one to get? I’d like something I can run some rounds through without breaking the bank.
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.223 are not horribly expensive, but if you are just screwing around you can’t beat a .22.
I’d go get a Rugar 10/22 in some variation and a bunch of 25 round magazines.[/quote]
My dad mentioned that same gun last night at dinner.
I was screwing around looking at guns and saw this, which looks like a blast:
I wish I had the money to get one of the DPMS ones in .308 
Benelli R1 is where it’s at these days. I’m tired of the ar/ m16 platform. It’s expensive and imo the play that develops after a lot of use between the barrel and the receiver is too great. Reloading magazines is seamless like with the AR, far far less recoil than most bolt actions. Hits hard with the 30-6 round, good warranty. Benelli R1 quick shooting practise 30-06 SPRINGFIELD 110 Yards - YouTube Pretty decent group considering recoil, standing, speed, and not using the sling.
I just hope that no crazy folks that actually know how to shoot start sniping, then every weapon short of shotguns is fair play regardless of how they are categorized.
[quote]Severiano wrote:
Benelli R1 is where it’s at these days. I’m tired of the ar/ m16 platform. It’s expensive and imo the play that develops after a lot of use between the barrel and the receiver is too great. Reloading magazines is seamless like with the AR, far far less recoil than most bolt actions. Hits hard with the 30-6 round, good warranty. Benelli R1 quick shooting practise 30-06 SPRINGFIELD 110 Yards - YouTube Pretty decent group considering recoil, standing, speed, and not using the sling.
I just hope that no crazy folks that actually know how to shoot start sniping, then every weapon short of shotguns is fair play regardless of how they are categorized.
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Thanks for the heads up , other than availability of ammo the 30-06 may be fine . I will check it out . I also agree . the DC sniper was scary because he employed some advanced tactics
Not sure if I picked it up correctly or not but it looks like you can exchange the barrel for the win 300 mag and 338 . talk about a super round