Why the mantra "get stronger to get bigger" is bad advice and how strength training infiltrated bodybuilding

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685

Yes. When is your next competition?

Logically the argument goes like this:

People who compete in and train for powerlifting meets are powerlifters.
Jack does compete in local powerlifting meets.
Jack is a powerlifter.

People who compete in and train for powerlifting meets are powerlifters.
Mike does not compete in a powerlifting, nor does he train for a meet.
Mike is not a powerlifter.

Mike might be stronger than Jack, but he does not compete in same sport. What training methods Mike or Jack use is completely irrelevant.

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686

I have no idea. I’m just a guy that lifts weights.

687

People competing in powerlifting are competitive powerlifters. People who don’t compete in powerlifting but train for it are just powerlifters.

Why is that so hard to understand? Do you hate the fact that someone can train exclusively with powerlifting programs and potentially make better progress without ever having to compete? Is that what it is?

688

Nope. They’re just a guy who lifts weights.

Whats with your obsession about lanes and titles and who does what and how?

689

Nope, they’re not just people who lift weights. They run powerlifting programs instead of CrossFit or bodybuilding programs. Powerlifting has a specific methodology to it just like any other practice.

By your logic, powerlifters didn’t exist until powerlifting competitions did. That’s asanine.

690

How do you know? You’re a hypertrophy purist aren’t you?

691

So:

People who don’t go the meets, but do lifts weights/train for strength are powerlifters.
Basketball players at my gym train for strength.
Basketball players at my gym are powerlifters.

The point I’ve repeated once and once again that term “powerlifter” tells just that you’re doing powerlifting. It does not tell how strong or tough guy etc. you are.

With your definition it’s not a stretch to hard to say that we all are powerlifters.

692

He mistakes strength training to powerlifting training.

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693

Because if you google “powerlifting programs” you’ll find programs such as Sheiko and many others developed by powerlifters. It’s that simple.

694

Not at all. You can do powerlifting training without competing.

695

Yes. Therefore we are all powerlifters. Welcome abroad.

696

No I am talking about people who specifically use powerlifting programs. Not just general strength routines.

697

No we are not all powerlifters because I do bodybuilding and don’t run Sheiko or some other kind of powerlifting program.

698

It didnt. Strength sports have existed for millennia. They used rocks and logs and all kinds of things.

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699

That’s a weak argument because powerlifters were already using powerlifting methodology before competitions.

700

You’re confusing “created by” and “used by”.

701

I don’t think you even know what a powerlifting program is. I don’t think you even heard of Sheiko.

702

So people who do powerlifting programs? What about powerlifters who don’t train with any specific program or without powerlifting labelled programs?

I need to unfortunately to tell to couple powerlifters I know that they aren’t powerlifters since their programs aren’t labelled as “powerlifting programs.”

Fixed that for you.

703

Nope, there’s different training styles. There’s marathon training, powerlifting training, bodybuilding training. They all have their own specific methodology.

704

I think you don’t know much about powerlifting, or powerlifting programs/methodologies.

Or training methodologies in general. I could give you some book recommendations, if you want to learn about the subject.