Why the mantra "get stronger to get bigger" is bad advice and how strength training infiltrated bodybuilding

I do like it. Because there is the presumption of the act built right into the name.

Or he can/would say “Thats high volume with lots of isolation. What is your goal?”.

This is a problem of phylogeny. They are all under the umbrella of general strength training. There’s also sport specific training.
Believe it or not, sprinters (like Asafa Powel, or Usain Bolt) don’t train like Olympic wrestlers (Kurt Angle).

They train for their sport. Specifically.
Hence sport specific training.

You have no idea, the irony of that statement. :rofl:

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Competition only formalizes what is already being done.

Training like a powerlifter makes you a powerlifter.
Training like a bodybuilder makes you a bodybuilder.

It really just sounds like someone beat you at your own sport without them ever having competed so you feel the need to gatekeep. You didn’t by any chance tell someone who was training like a boxer without ever competing that he was not a boxer and he handed it to you did you?

No. It gives a direction and endpoint to the training. Your work that week/time period/training cycle culminates in the demonstration.

You really don’t know anything about this, do you?

Not if there isn’t a meet scheduled or show signed up for.

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Once again, :rofl:. Thats such a sad and misguided grasp. :rofl:

You’re flailing bro. Get some sleep.

Thank you for refuting yourself because the competition itself is built on the practice that you deny counts.

You’re confining yourself to a narrow, externally validated version of a sport, ignoring the objective principles that actually define it.

You assert “you aren’t a powerlifter without competing,” yet competing requires doing the very training you dismiss. The premise undercuts itself and that’s called circular reasoning.

:rofl:.

:thinking::man_shrugging:t2:.

I think you’re broken.

You can “identify as” anything you want. Just don’t be surprised when the world disagrees with you.

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If identity depends on external approval, then by your logic nobody was ever a powerlifter, athlete, or expert until someone else certified them. Yet competitions, records, and federations exist because people trained and mastered the practice first, not the other way around. Denying the validity of training outside a platform ignores the very foundation that makes the sport possible.

Put down the meth pipe and stop trying to interpret things that are beyond your capacity to understand.

Ok. So you’re a “body builder”. :rofl:

Now what?

Classic move when the logic ran out.

You claim you aren’t a powerlifter until you compete. Yet the IPF considers the USAPL illegitimate which is why it suspended it and is still expelled today. Sorry bubba, your meet at the USAPL doesn’t count. The judges from the IPF have to stamp “powerlifter” on your forehead before you can call yourself one.

Maybe you don’t understand this, cuz meth makes everything really abstract, but I’m me, and all of these other people are who they are.

Each one of these dots in the upper left corner of each post represents a different person.

You aren’t by chance, a dentist, are you?

That’s a lot of words to avoid admitting you don’t have an argument. Let’s try again. If identity depends on external approval, then by your logic nobody was ever a powerlifter, athlete, or expert until someone else certified them.

Make it make sense

You’re one of thos “spiritual” bodybuilders, huh?

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You’re the one who discovers stranger and stranger arguments against a fact that if somebody does not compete/aim to compete in a sport he does not represent it.

It’s sad if you feel only things under label or bodybuilding or powerlifting can be impressive.

Guy pulling 800lbs is impressive, but it does not matter in PL unless done in a meet. You earlier mentioned Thor pulling 501kg. But why him pulling 505kg and 510kg now were much more noticeable?

It would be insane if somebody could participate to a meet with a month old lift. PL meets don’t always measure who’s strongest, they measure who performs best at that day while judged by others by a set of rules.

In my last meet I did 40kg smaller total than on a meet before, because I was sick. I did not cry about it or demanded win based on my gym lifts. It was what it was. Better to take your failures as a man.

That’s the idea on competing, you set up against others and see how you perform. And it can be intimidating. If it’s not your thing, don’t do it.

Look man, you can identify to whatever you want. But people classify you based on what you do, not on how you feel.

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Nah, just someone who understands that logic doesn’t need a federation’s approval.

You’re gatekeeping!

Not surprisingly, we have a different understanding of logic.

The how unlogically you use word logic grinds my soul.

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He has an exclusive form of logic that has emerged from the space he created for it in his mindcastle.

Make a left at the glowing orb…

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You just said people classify you based on what you do. Therefore if I do bodybuilding, then I’m a bodybuilder. That supports my point that someone doing powerlifting training is a powerlifter.

Dude you’re all over the place from meth pipes, to mindcastles, to “spiritual bodybuilders”.

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Yeah. Right. You can’t tell me what I’m about. I don’t need your validation!

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Do you believe Jake Paul’s fights are legitimate and that Mike Tyson couldn’t keep up? Happened in front of judges.