You are totally ignorant of the logistics to run a sports organization and hold competitions.
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I can acknowledge corruption in powerlifting federations while still recognizing the objective validity of the training itself, just like I can live in a country and follow the law without claiming the government defines the worth of my actions
The issue is consistency. If you dismiss a coach’s or federation’s methodology because of financial motives, then by the same logic you’d have to dismiss anyone organizing or participating in competitions, including yourself, because money is involved everywhere. Financial interest doesn’t invalidate the underlying methodology
Then your entire “corrupt federation” was a phoney argument that you didn’t believe was valid, yet stated it as if it was valid. Hummm…
I argued that corruption exists alongside a valid, objective training system. Pointing out flaws in federations doesn’t make the argument phony; it simply separates the integrity of the practice from the bureaucracy around it.
The IPF suspended the USAPF. So according to who is a powerlifting organization legitimate? You? The IPF?
Semantics generally bore me. Whether there is a subjective difference, to you or someone else, between the terms “powerlifter” and “competitive powerlifter” (or whatever) ultimately has little bearing on the merits of the mantra “get stronger to get bigger”.
Have you ever promoted a Powerlifting Meet or a Bodybuilding contest?
By the logic behind your question, nobody could critique a government unless they were elected.
What came first? The powerlifters or the powerlifting competitions?
Not at all.
Sometimes experience teaches much more than you had imagined. The inexperienced are likely too uninformed to know the questions to ask
BTW, you are pitiful in your assumptions of the logic supporting what I am stating on any comment.
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What are you doing it for?
In the case of a person general strength training thats exactly what it is. In fact, its not even training, its just lifting weights.
If you’re doing it in preparation for a meet, then its powerlifting.
Intention matters.
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You could be doing it in preparation of a meet you never go to. I was doing bodybuilding long before I competed. It was not “general strength training”, it was hypertrophy/bodybuilding training.
I actually trained for years for something that didn’t happen. I’m not the thing I was training for simply out of an effort I put forth. You have to do the thing to claim the name.
At the end of the day, your claim that you can only be a powerlifter or bodybuilder once you compete, is fallacious.
My bodybuilding training is what made me a bodybuilder. It certainly wasn’t CrossFit or olympic weightlifting.
No. There used to be a clown that would run around these forums starting shit with actual bodybuilders, who had not and never would step on stage.
He was not a bodybuilder. He was a guy who lifts weights. But it created in him a tremendous amount of dissonance to acknowledge that simple fact.
You have to do the thing to claim the name.
The preparation for the thing does not make one the name. The actual doing of the thing makes one the name.
In regular day to day, I do fabrication and welding. When people ask me I tell them. “I’m a welder/fabricator”.
I went to school under an engineering major but never finished. I’m not an engineer.
This is really basic stuff man.
Incorrect. There’s such a thing as bodybuilding training and powerlifting training whether you like it or not. Any powerlifting coach can look at my training and say, “yeah that’s a bodybuilding program, not powerlifting”. Stop trying to negate training styles by lumping all of them under the umbrella of “general strength training”.
Never once did I finally think I was a bodybuilder the moment I stepped on stage.
You depend on external validation, I don’t.