“literally a rule book for……. competitive Bodybuilding”
But, not for bodybuilding. I do not have to squat to build my quads. I can use whatever I want.
But if I do fives in squats I can label that I’m doing bodybuilding?
Therefore, absent a competition, we agree one cannot be doing strongman in training, yes?
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That is just a rep scheme. Why are you doing sets of 5? Why squats? Bodybuilding is about training for muscle size and aesthetics.
I understand that the general person lifting weights in the gym usually places themselves in one of the groups, e.g. powerlifting, Olympic lifting, bodybuilding, sports related muscle conditioning, general conditioning, etc.
For this reason I always call myself a competitive bodybuilder.
But when you say that bodybuilding doesn’t have rules, whether you like it or not “bodybuilding” does include competitive bodybuilding. Competitive Bodybuilding does have rules.
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Strength and hypertrophy. Those are the most common reasons for majority of population. And go and to hand quite a long way.
So we could call novice lifter doing Starting Strength a bodybuilder?
Or a person who has not excersised and starts running. One of his goals is to get more muscular legs (which he will). Is he a bodybuilder?
Not that I feel this is super important problem, but I think my way of defining this is more clear.
When did I say you can? I said people call it “strongman style training”. Both powerlifting and strongman are event/competition based there are rules. It does not matter that the events change. That does not follow bodybuilding. Training for aesthetics is bodybuilding, whether or not you compete.
So we’re all bodybuilders? Even if we train for strongman or powerlifting?
You just need to care about your aesthetics?
I feel we will have to agree to disagree
Yes, competitive bodybuilding has rules that doesn’t change the fact that bodybuilding as a practice is goal based. You can train for muscle and aesthetics without competing. Calling just “hypertrophy” training is wrong because hypertrophy training can be used for many purposes.
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It appears we agreed upon my initial point that “hypertrophy=bodybuilding” is incorrect
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I feel that @LGN has helped lead this thread down a semantics bunny trail that has zero value.
Let me state that IMO anyone can call hisself/herself a bodybuilder. I am okay with that.
Not care it is the primary purpose. All training is geared toward that goal. A powerlifter must squat, bench, and deadlift to improve their total, they may use other movements as assistance. Bodybuilding only cares about the physique.
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Yes, bodybuilding is using hypertrophy training with the sole purpose of aesthetics. Competing is not a part of that.
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Me too. I just like to play with words and define their meaning.
But it’s not super serious if somebody says he is a bodybuilder/powerlifter/etc. even if his not excactly that.
We agree that training for hypertrophy is not bodybuilding in that regard. That is excellent.
This isn’t true. They only have to do that in competition
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For a hypertrophy purist, bodybuilding=hypertrophy. There’s literally nothing else for me to do when my only goal is hypertrophy. Bodybuilding does it most effectively. People can gain muscle from all kinds of things, even construction. But bodybuilding takes the cake
You posted the opposite equation before. That is what I refuted.
I suppose this holds true for any competition. I cannot think of a single sporting competition that has a rule concerning a requirement to train at all.
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