Why the mantra "get stronger to get bigger" is bad advice and how strength training infiltrated bodybuilding

“Doing bodybuilding” is competing in a bodybuilding competition. It’s not a manner of training.

You can train for hypertrophy using the same techniques used by bodybuilders without doing bodybuilding. This is just phasic training. I have hypertrophy blocks in my training. I am not doing bodybuilding.

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Yup. And, consequently, one can be a bodybuilder without training specifically for hypertrophy.

Maybe not a good one, but one none the same.

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Even if this has some merit, so what? I was prepared to do all that was necessary to look better on stage. What is an extra 30 minutes a workout? 30 extra minutes of controlled muscle flexing.

The sacrifices that I made in bodybuilding was to place higher on stage. That was the only reason to make any sacrifices. Just looking good walking around was just a by-product.

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Oh I see, you’re saying “because my training only incorporates some bodybuilding elements, then I’m not bodybuilding”. Yeah I mean I agree if 80% of your training is powerlifting and 20% is bodybuilding, you’re not really doing bodybuilding.

Training is not powerlifting or bodybuilding.

Competing is.

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That would be “competitive bodybuilding” which also entails, dieting down, tanning, posing, etc.

”Bodybuilding is the practice of progressive resistance exercise to build, control, and develop one’s muscles via hypertrophy. An individual who engages in this activity is referred to as a bodybuilder. It is primarily undertaken for aesthetic purposes”

Where’s that quote is from?

I prefer the distinction:

  • Going to the gym to get strength = strength training
  • Going to the gym to gain muscle = hypertrophy training.
  • Competing in bodybuilding, and getting ready for comp. = bodybuilding. Same with PL, Strongman etc.

Or do we need to refer anybody doing deadlifts or overhead pressers as strongmen?

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This is what bodybuilding is.

Because, using the other definition, all exercise is bodybuilding.

We must understand that bodybuilding is NOT just making muscles bigger. Lots of activities require that.

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Yeah but if you want to compete as a powerlifter or bodybuilder, then you have to do powerlifting or bodybuilding. If you’re competing, it’s even more imperative to be precise with the kind of training you’re doing.

When doing sets of 8-10 in squats turns to bodybuilding or powerlifting training?

I competed in my first powerlifting meet while running DoggCrapp.

I competed in my first strongman comp while running 5/3/1.

I competed in my most recent strongman comp running Tactical Barbell.

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Your comparison doesn’t work. Powerlifting and Strongman have specific events and rules. You have to do certain movements.

Bodybuilding is goal based. The word literally means building the body. If you train for muscle size and aesthetics, you’re bodybuilding. Competing just makes you a competitive bodybuilder.

Also, the majority of people who do the style of training say, “I am doing strongman training”.

No…

There is no rulebook or set of events for strongman. Its always up to the promoter.

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And strength sports aren’t?

Bodybuilding doesn’t?

If you train triceps to get big arms or leg extensions to get big legs for powerlifting you’re doing hypetrophy training. I think that’s better definition for getting bigger muscles for variety of different purposes.

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Which ones? I have to do squats?

But, you are doing them to get a bigger total not to get bigger aesthetic biceps and quads. When aesthetics and muscular development are the primary goal you are bodybuilding.

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What if I never test my total in a meet, but do singles in squats? Am I doing powerlifting?

No, doing singles in the squat doesn’t make you a powerlifter.

Powerlifting is defined by the sport. Training to compete in the squat, bench, and deadlift under official rules.

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There is literally a rule book for competitive Bodybuilding depending on the federation.

When I test judged to be a NPC National Judge the written portion of the test concerned questions from the AAU rule book for Bodybuilding (This occurred prior to the NPC separating itself from the AAU. It was known as The National Physique Committee of the AAU.)

They are specific to the competition. If they are deadlifting a car I can’t say I want to use a barbell and plates.