Why Obama Won

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]phaethon wrote:

When republican politicans/candidates made the crazy rape comments, did Romney get on tv and say that such views are sickening and that people who spout such views are not republican/conservative? Did he try and get them off the ballot?

No. So he was seen to passively support those views.[/quote]

Did you pay attention to the Presidential election? Romney was all over the airwaves calling out Todd Atkins for his inane rape comment. And at the same time the corrupt MSLM were trying to link Atkins remarks to the republican party in order to hurt Romney.

Pay attention if you’re going to comment.

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I was going to point this out but then thought Aw what the heck, let an ignoramus wallow in the mudhole of his making.[/quote]

I don’t know who said it:

“There are people who make things happen, there are people who watch things happen…and then there are people who have no idea what’s happened.”

And, that is one of the reasons that Obama won!

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[quote]ZEB wrote:I don’t know who said it:

“There are people who make things happen, there are people who watch things happen…and then there are people who have no idea what’s happened.”

And, that is one of the reasons that Obama won![/quote]Certainly there is some of what you’re saying, but you’re not willing to say that people want the kind of country we’ve become and are becoming more every day? Are you saying that the Republicans just didn’t get their message out well enough and Romney would have won if they had? And if Romney would have won we would have been headed in an essentially different direction? Which politicians if only elected will save us ZEB? And if they can’t? Who can? How? Don’t you go gittin all cantankerous on me now. Those are serious questions and the ones that really matter.

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[quote]phaethon wrote:
So he was seen to passively support those views.

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This is a giant problem. The republican’s have lost the culture war. Completely lost… The culture is obsessed with Jersey Shore and Honey Bo BO, not people reading John Adams and the Federalist Papers.

because the electorate is more concerned with “Like A Boss” memes than they are say medicare costs, Romney had to even separate himself from someone like Akin and the left could demagogue McDonald’s statement.

What I’m getting at, is if one individual has to run away from another, they already lost, because people are too dumb to see them as two people.

EDITED

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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:I don’t know who said it:

“There are people who make things happen, there are people who watch things happen…and then there are people who have no idea what’s happened.”

And, that is one of the reasons that Obama won![/quote]Certainly there is some of what you’re saying, but you’re not willing to say that people want the kind of country we’ve become and are becoming more every day? Are you saying that the Republicans just didn’t get their message out well enough and Romney would have won if they had? And if Romney would have won we would have been headed in an essentially different direction? Which politicians if only elected will save us ZEB? And if they can’t? Who can? How? Don’t you go gittin all cantankerous on me now. Those are serious questions and the ones that really matter.
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About four years ago I said to my wife that politics is not the ultimate the answer. There is no politician or political party that is going to save us now. And at this point I feel we are under judgement and that is not a good feeling. As I said previously on this thread the many weaknesses which have caused our economy to burn like Sodom and Gomorrah will eventually be the ruination of this country. No country that was blessed by God at its inception can continue to kill the unborn in the name of convenience, applaud two homosexuals marrying, condone the use of even more illicit drugs and promote sex before marriage and continue to receive the blessing of our Lord.

You probably didn’t expect to hear this from me but trust me brother I know what’s going on. And there isn’t a darn thing that I can do about it!

Obama won because he is exactly what we deserve. And the man or woman to follow him will be even worse. Then again maybe I’m just having a bad morning.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:I don’t know who said it:
“There are people who make things happen, there are people who watch things happen…and then there are people who have no idea what’s happened.”
And, that is one of the reasons that Obama won![/quote]Certainly there is some of what you’re saying, but you’re not willing to say that people want the kind of country we’ve become and are becoming more every day? Are you saying that the Republicans just didn’t get their message out well enough and Romney would have won if they had? And if Romney would have won we would have been headed in an essentially different direction? Which politicians if only elected will save us ZEB? And if they can’t? Who can? How? Don’t you go gittin all cantankerous on me now. Those are serious questions and the ones that really matter.
[/quote]About four years ago I said to my wife that politics is not the ultimate the answer. There is no politician or political party that is going to save us now. And at this point I feel we are under judgement and that is not a good feeling. As I said previously on this thread the many weaknesses which have caused our economy to burn like Sodom and Gomorrah will eventually be the ruination of this country. No country that was blessed by God at its inception can continue to kill the unborn in the name of convenience, applaud two homosexuals marrying, condone the use of even more illicit drugs and promote sex before marriage and continue to receive the blessing of our Lord.

You probably didn’t expect to hear this from me but trust me brother I know what’s going on. And there isn’t a darn thing that I can do about it!

Obama won because he is exactly what we deserve. And the man or woman to follow him will be even worse. Then again maybe I’m just having a bad morning.[/quote]To be 100% honest? Listening to you over the last year? I didn’t know what to expect. Of course I agree. Now is the time for the redeemed to say so. This world is not now nor has it ever been about the United States of America. The end of this country should not ever be confused with the end of the world.

However, yes, no other nation ever honored God at her founding like ours did. Imperfectly though it was. Regardless of what these denial dwelling revisionists try to tell themselves. He will not allow His name, which the rest of the world still associates more clearly with us than we do ourselves, to continue to be blasphemed by people talking about Him in one thread and celebrating pornography in another. Make no mistake. As far as this country is concerned? His winnowing fork IS in His hand. The chaff IS going to be separated from the wheat. THAT’S what this is all about. God is in covenant with His church bride. Not the USA.

You’re another one I wish I had PM’s for. Brother. I had a fine morning btw.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]phaethon wrote:
So he was seen to passively support those views.

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This is a giant problem. The republican’s have lost the culture war. Completely lost… The culture is obsessed with Jersey Shore and Honey Bo BO, not people reading John Adams and the Federalist Papers.

because the electorate is more concerned with “Like A Boss” memes than they are say medicare costs, Romney had to even separate himself from someone like Akin and the left could demagogue McDonald’s statement.

What I’m getting at, is if one individual has to run away from another, they already lost, because people are too dumb to see them as two people.

EDITED [/quote]

This is another reason why this country is failing, is that those who built this awesome country are not getting older. Those who understood what hard work it took, to make this place great.

Now we have a majority of takers, who voted with their hands out.

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[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
atypical1 wrote:

legalize pot but make it illegal to drive in an altered state

I had to single this one out because it’s so very wrong minded. Now tell me again how legalizing alcohol but making it illegal to drive under the influence has saved lives? 50,000 deaths due to driving under the influence each year. Before it was legal perhaps 100 or so.

Zeb[/quote]

Might want to put those numbers back in your ass where pulled them from. In 2010 there where a TOTAL of 32,788 fatalities nationwide and the numbers keep dropping.
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Drivers More Likely to be Drugged than Drunk…

Drivers on California roads on weekend nights are more likely to have drugs than alcohol in their systems, according to a results of a survey released by state officials on Monday.

About 14 percent of drivers surveyed tested positive for drugs that could impair their ability to drive, according to the California Office of Traffic Safety. That’s nearly twice as many drivers as the 7.3 percent who tested positive for alcohol, according to the survey

In 2010, 30 percent of those killed drivers tested positive for legal or illegal drugs.

http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20121123/A_NEWS/211230308

Yes, we legalized it, and pink unicorns didn’t come to poop money.

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Geez, Max, 21% of drivers are D and/or A impaired?

That’s scary.

I think I’d stay at home.[/quote]

Just as I’ve been saying if pot were to be legalized we would have yet more people killed on our highways. The naive libertarian view of simply passing more laws would work about as well as the DWI laws have. 75,000 alcohol related deaths per year a little less than half because of traffic fatalities.

Now drivers in California have one more thing to worry about beyond those drinking and driving:

[quote]Drivers on California roads on weekend nights are more likely to have drugs than alcohol in their systems, according to a results of a survey released by state officials on Monday.

About 14 percent of drivers surveyed tested positive for drugs that could impair their ability to drive, according to the California Office of Traffic Safety. That’s nearly twice as many drivers as the 7.3 percent who tested positive for alcohol, according to the survey
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Legalizing pot is one of the worst ideas that I’ve ever heard.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
atypical1 wrote:

legalize pot but make it illegal to drive in an altered state

I had to single this one out because it’s so very wrong minded. Now tell me again how legalizing alcohol but making it illegal to drive under the influence has saved lives? 50,000 deaths due to driving under the influence each year. Before it was legal perhaps 100 or so.

Zeb[/quote]

Might want to put those numbers back in your ass where pulled them from. In 2010 there where a TOTAL of 32,788 fatalities nationwide and the numbers keep dropping.
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Drivers More Likely to be Drugged than Drunk…

Drivers on California roads on weekend nights are more likely to have drugs than alcohol in their systems, according to a results of a survey released by state officials on Monday.

About 14 percent of drivers surveyed tested positive for drugs that could impair their ability to drive, according to the California Office of Traffic Safety. That’s nearly twice as many drivers as the 7.3 percent who tested positive for alcohol, according to the survey

In 2010, 30 percent of those killed drivers tested positive for legal or illegal drugs.

http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20121123/A_NEWS/211230308

Yes, we legalized it, and pink unicorns didn’t come to poop money.

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Geez, Max, 21% of drivers are D and/or A impaired?

That’s scary.

I think I’d stay at home.[/quote]

Just as I’ve been saying if pot were to be legalized we would have yet more people killed on our highways. The naive libertarian view of simply passing more laws would work about as well as the DWI laws have. 75,000 alcohol related deaths per year a little less than half because of traffic fatalities.

Now drivers in California have one more thing to worry about beyond those drinking and driving:

[quote]Drivers on California roads on weekend nights are more likely to have drugs than alcohol in their systems, according to a results of a survey released by state officials on Monday.

About 14 percent of drivers surveyed tested positive for drugs that could impair their ability to drive, according to the California Office of Traffic Safety. That’s nearly twice as many drivers as the 7.3 percent who tested positive for alcohol, according to the survey
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Legalizing pot is one of the worst ideas that I’ve ever heard.[/quote]

I don’t smoke pot and now that its legal in WA I still won’t and I won’t even if the feds legalize it and they sell it at Costco. I have some friends who are doctors, lawyers (and judges) and executives who do smoke pot and the fact that its illegal doesn’t seem to factor into the equation much for them, other than keeping it out of plain site. I just don’t think its any of the state’s business really, and if there are some negative social consequences to legalization: (1) they need to be balanced against the positives of legalization; and (2) sometimes negative effects are just the price of personal freedom.

If I could prove that, for example, banning formal religious practices would result in a net social good, you still wouldn’t be in favor of banning formal religious practices, would you? I wouldn’t, even if the proof was solid and I was otherwise against formal religion. Deference to personal freedom is often more important than utilitarian arguments for whether banning something creates a net social good, even if the utilitarian argument has merit.

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[quote]jjackkrash wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
atypical1 wrote:

legalize pot but make it illegal to drive in an altered state

I had to single this one out because it’s so very wrong minded. Now tell me again how legalizing alcohol but making it illegal to drive under the influence has saved lives? 50,000 deaths due to driving under the influence each year. Before it was legal perhaps 100 or so.

Zeb[/quote]

Might want to put those numbers back in your ass where pulled them from. In 2010 there where a TOTAL of 32,788 fatalities nationwide and the numbers keep dropping.
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Drivers More Likely to be Drugged than Drunk…

Drivers on California roads on weekend nights are more likely to have drugs than alcohol in their systems, according to a results of a survey released by state officials on Monday.

About 14 percent of drivers surveyed tested positive for drugs that could impair their ability to drive, according to the California Office of Traffic Safety. That’s nearly twice as many drivers as the 7.3 percent who tested positive for alcohol, according to the survey

In 2010, 30 percent of those killed drivers tested positive for legal or illegal drugs.

http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20121123/A_NEWS/211230308

Yes, we legalized it, and pink unicorns didn’t come to poop money.

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Geez, Max, 21% of drivers are D and/or A impaired?

That’s scary.

I think I’d stay at home.[/quote]

Just as I’ve been saying if pot were to be legalized we would have yet more people killed on our highways. The naive libertarian view of simply passing more laws would work about as well as the DWI laws have. 75,000 alcohol related deaths per year a little less than half because of traffic fatalities.

Now drivers in California have one more thing to worry about beyond those drinking and driving:

[quote]Drivers on California roads on weekend nights are more likely to have drugs than alcohol in their systems, according to a results of a survey released by state officials on Monday.

About 14 percent of drivers surveyed tested positive for drugs that could impair their ability to drive, according to the California Office of Traffic Safety. That’s nearly twice as many drivers as the 7.3 percent who tested positive for alcohol, according to the survey
[/quote]

Legalizing pot is one of the worst ideas that I’ve ever heard.[/quote]

I don’t smoke pot and now that its legal in WA I still won’t and I won’t even if the feds legalize it and they sell it at Costco. I have some friends who are doctors, lawyers (and judges) and executives who do smoke pot and the fact that its illegal doesn’t seem to factor into the equation much for them, other than keeping it out of plain site. I just don’t think its any of the state’s business really, and if there are some negative social consequences to legalization: (1) they need to be balanced against the positives of legalization; and (2) sometimes negative effects are just the price of personal freedom.

If I could prove that, for example, banning formal religious practices would result in a net social good, you still wouldn’t be in favor of banning formal religious practices, would you? I wouldn’t, even if the proof was solid and I was otherwise against formal religion. Deference to personal freedom is often more important than utilitarian arguments for whether banning something creates a net social good, even if the utilitarian argument has merit.
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Then let’s not have any laws because they might interfere with personal freedom (eye roll). And if you say “no” to that, then where are YOU drawing the line? I am drawing the line in a place where we should have already learned a lesson. Suffering another 75,000 deaths per year because of yet another recreational drug is not my idea of freedom. It is however my idea of enslavement. Enslavement to an idea that the more illicit crap you can shove down your throat, up your nose or inhale into your lungs is something called freedom when in fact it is called DEATH.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

Might want to put those numbers back in your ass where pulled them from. In 2010 there where a TOTAL of 32,788 fatalities nationwide and the numbers keep dropping.
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You are correct, but as of 2010. However, the most important figure is the total death toll due to alcohol in general that being 75,000 people per year. Just think if we legalize pot we can look forward to maybe 37,500 deaths per year because Pot isn’t nearly as bad as alcohol–uh huh…

Part of that enormous figure is due to disease’s related to alcohol:

I was surprised (on the one hand) to hear from you regarding facts. Judging by most of your posts you usually don’t let facts get in the way when you’re trying to make a point. That’s why I posted the link just for you.

Now get off my thread unless you have something to say about why Obama won. I know you have a very difficult time understanding that each thread has a title and that title is the topic for that specific thread. I know that’s a shocker to a hit and run coward like yourself but it happens to be the case chicken man.

In other words…move along, or make yourself relevant. Ha…that’s a funny one, you relevant.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6089353/ns/health-addictions/t/alcohol-linked-us-deaths-year/

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Nice Strawman. When your “facts” are proven to be as full of shit as usual you try to backtrack with different “facts”. Guess what, alcohol deaths have NOTHING to do with pot deaths. Why don’t you show a reference to how many have died from pot use? Because you can’t. But you wouldn’t understand that because you are bullshit blowhard.

Talk about being a coward, your pretty badass behind your keyboard but in real life I’m sure you’d piss yourself if anyone scowled at you. Don’t like me on your thread? Tough shit. Now I’m sure this is the part where you call me a stalker or how when I am as old and wise as you I’ll understand. You may be old but most anyone who has been on here for any length of time knows, you ain’t wise. Same old bullshit.

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[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

Might want to put those numbers back in your ass where pulled them from. In 2010 there where a TOTAL of 32,788 fatalities nationwide and the numbers keep dropping.
[/quote]

You are correct, but as of 2010. However, the most important figure is the total death toll due to alcohol in general that being 75,000 people per year. Just think if we legalize pot we can look forward to maybe 37,500 deaths per year because Pot isn’t nearly as bad as alcohol–uh huh…

Part of that enormous figure is due to disease’s related to alcohol:

I was surprised (on the one hand) to hear from you regarding facts. Judging by most of your posts you usually don’t let facts get in the way when you’re trying to make a point. That’s why I posted the link just for you.

Now get off my thread unless you have something to say about why Obama won. I know you have a very difficult time understanding that each thread has a title and that title is the topic for that specific thread. I know that’s a shocker to a hit and run coward like yourself but it happens to be the case chicken man.

In other words…move along, or make yourself relevant. Ha…that’s a funny one, you relevant.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6089353/ns/health-addictions/t/alcohol-linked-us-deaths-year/

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Nice Strawman. When your “facts” are proven to be as full of shit as usual you try to backtrack with different “facts”. Guess what, alcohol deaths have NOTHING to do with pot deaths. Why don’t you show a reference to how many have died from pot use? Because you can’t. But you wouldn’t understand that because you are bullshit blowhard.

Talk about being a coward, your pretty badass behind your keyboard but in real life I’m sure you’d piss yourself if anyone scowled at you. Don’t like me on your thread? Tough shit. Now I’m sure this is the part where you call me a stalker or how when I am as old and wise as you I’ll understand. You may be old but most anyone who has been on here for any length of time knows, you ain’t wise. Same old bullshit.[/quote]

Is “get off my thread” the internet equivalent of “get off my yard”?

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[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

Might want to put those numbers back in your ass where pulled them from. In 2010 there where a TOTAL of 32,788 fatalities nationwide and the numbers keep dropping.
[/quote]

You are correct, but as of 2010. However, the most important figure is the total death toll due to alcohol in general that being 75,000 people per year. Just think if we legalize pot we can look forward to maybe 37,500 deaths per year because Pot isn’t nearly as bad as alcohol–uh huh…

Part of that enormous figure is due to disease’s related to alcohol:

I was surprised (on the one hand) to hear from you regarding facts. Judging by most of your posts you usually don’t let facts get in the way when you’re trying to make a point. That’s why I posted the link just for you.

Now get off my thread unless you have something to say about why Obama won. I know you have a very difficult time understanding that each thread has a title and that title is the topic for that specific thread. I know that’s a shocker to a hit and run coward like yourself but it happens to be the case chicken man.

In other words…move along, or make yourself relevant. Ha…that’s a funny one, you relevant.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6089353/ns/health-addictions/t/alcohol-linked-us-deaths-year/

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Nice Strawman. When your “facts” are proven to be as full of shit as usual you try to backtrack with different “facts”. Guess what, alcohol deaths have NOTHING to do with pot deaths. Why don’t you show a reference to how many have died from pot use? Because you can’t. But you wouldn’t understand that because you are bullshit blowhard.[/quote]

LOL Testy you’ve always been an asshole and I don’t expect you to change at this point. Is it a stretch to think that legalizing yet one more mind altering drug would raise traffic fatalities? I’m fully willling to admit that my DWI death facts were high. But as I said we have 75,000 people dying form alcohol related incidents each year. That is the real issue. But you know that you’re just being your usual assholish self. If you think pot would lower traffic fatalities you are dumber than I originally thought…and that is pretty dumb!

Nope, you’ve got that wrong my little Internet warrior. And if I recall you are the one who likes to drop in a thread toss an insult and then run away. That is your M O and always has been. You are basically worthless around here. It’s been my good fortune to not have to talk to you very much. I usually ignore your shear ignorance and cowardice. This time around I tagged you for it. And you don’t like it much do you? Ha ha…

I don’t care if you’re on the thread. All I have ever asked you to do is actually be productive. You never bring anything to a thread but your usual drive by attacks. You’re a spineless little man and are tolerated around here, that’s about it.

Cowards have always rubbed me the wrong way. You’re no exception punk.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

Might want to put those numbers back in your ass where pulled them from. In 2010 there where a TOTAL of 32,788 fatalities nationwide and the numbers keep dropping.
[/quote]

You are correct, but as of 2010. However, the most important figure is the total death toll due to alcohol in general that being 75,000 people per year. Just think if we legalize pot we can look forward to maybe 37,500 deaths per year because Pot isn’t nearly as bad as alcohol–uh huh…

Part of that enormous figure is due to disease’s related to alcohol:

I was surprised (on the one hand) to hear from you regarding facts. Judging by most of your posts you usually don’t let facts get in the way when you’re trying to make a point. That’s why I posted the link just for you.

Now get off my thread unless you have something to say about why Obama won. I know you have a very difficult time understanding that each thread has a title and that title is the topic for that specific thread. I know that’s a shocker to a hit and run coward like yourself but it happens to be the case chicken man.

In other words…move along, or make yourself relevant. Ha…that’s a funny one, you relevant.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6089353/ns/health-addictions/t/alcohol-linked-us-deaths-year/

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Nice Strawman. When your “facts” are proven to be as full of shit as usual you try to backtrack with different “facts”. Guess what, alcohol deaths have NOTHING to do with pot deaths. Why don’t you show a reference to how many have died from pot use? Because you can’t. But you wouldn’t understand that because you are bullshit blowhard.[/quote]

LOL Testy you’ve always been an asshole and I don’t expect you to change at this point. Is it a stretch to think that legalizing yet one more mind altering drug would raise traffic fatalities? I’m fully willling to admit that my DWI death facts were high. But as I said we have 75,000 people dying form alcohol related incidents each year. That is the real issue. But you know that you’re just being your usual assholish self. If you think pot would lower traffic fatalities you are dumber than I originally thought…and that is pretty dumb!

Nope, you’ve got that wrong my little Internet warrior. And if I recall you are the one who likes to drop in a thread toss an insult and then run away. That is your M O and always has been. You are basically worthless around here. It’s been my good fortune to not have to talk to you very much. I usually ignore your shear ignorance and cowardice. This time around I tagged you for it. And you don’t like it much do you? Ha ha…

I don’t care if you’re on the thread. All I have ever asked you to do is actually be productive. You never bring anything to a thread but your usual drive by attacks. You’re a spineless little man and are tolerated around here, that’s about it.

Cowards have always rubbed me the wrong way. You’re no exception punk.

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Blah,blah,blah more tough guy talk. I seriously doubt you have ever spoken to anybody’s face like that. Funny, that I am tolerated here but it is you that has retreated to the basement of T-Nation because your bullshit has been called out everywhere else.

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[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

Might want to put those numbers back in your ass where pulled them from. In 2010 there where a TOTAL of 32,788 fatalities nationwide and the numbers keep dropping.
[/quote]

You are correct, but as of 2010. However, the most important figure is the total death toll due to alcohol in general that being 75,000 people per year. Just think if we legalize pot we can look forward to maybe 37,500 deaths per year because Pot isn’t nearly as bad as alcohol–uh huh…

Part of that enormous figure is due to disease’s related to alcohol:

I was surprised (on the one hand) to hear from you regarding facts. Judging by most of your posts you usually don’t let facts get in the way when you’re trying to make a point. That’s why I posted the link just for you.

Now get off my thread unless you have something to say about why Obama won. I know you have a very difficult time understanding that each thread has a title and that title is the topic for that specific thread. I know that’s a shocker to a hit and run coward like yourself but it happens to be the case chicken man.

In other words…move along, or make yourself relevant. Ha…that’s a funny one, you relevant.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6089353/ns/health-addictions/t/alcohol-linked-us-deaths-year/

[/quote]

Nice Strawman. When your “facts” are proven to be as full of shit as usual you try to backtrack with different “facts”. Guess what, alcohol deaths have NOTHING to do with pot deaths. Why don’t you show a reference to how many have died from pot use? Because you can’t. But you wouldn’t understand that because you are bullshit blowhard.[/quote]

LOL Testy you’ve always been an asshole and I don’t expect you to change at this point. Is it a stretch to think that legalizing yet one more mind altering drug would raise traffic fatalities? I’m fully willling to admit that my DWI death facts were high. But as I said we have 75,000 people dying form alcohol related incidents each year. That is the real issue. But you know that you’re just being your usual assholish self. If you think pot would lower traffic fatalities you are dumber than I originally thought…and that is pretty dumb!

Nope, you’ve got that wrong my little Internet warrior. And if I recall you are the one who likes to drop in a thread toss an insult and then run away. That is your M O and always has been. You are basically worthless around here. It’s been my good fortune to not have to talk to you very much. I usually ignore your shear ignorance and cowardice. This time around I tagged you for it. And you don’t like it much do you? Ha ha…

I don’t care if you’re on the thread. All I have ever asked you to do is actually be productive. You never bring anything to a thread but your usual drive by attacks. You’re a spineless little man and are tolerated around here, that’s about it.

Cowards have always rubbed me the wrong way. You’re no exception punk.

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Blah,blah,blah more tough guy talk. I seriously doubt you have ever spoken to anybody’s face like that. Funny, that I am tolerated here but it is you that has retreated to the basement of T-Nation because your bullshit has been called out everywhere else.
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LOL, who “called me out”? Are you hallucinating again? I retreated to the basement of T Nation? LOL…where is that asshole? Here on PWI? I consider this area of T Nation one of the best for good debate, unless you’re around of course. I also post in two or three other sections. You have one more post and still nothing on topic. Perfect…this is what you do! You are the village idiot around here. Always ready to post a hit and run and never adding anything of value.

Really Testy your act is getting old.

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Ephesians 4:29 ESV[quote]Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.[/quote]Colossians 3:17 ESV[quote]And whatever you do, in word or deed, do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.[/quote]I would PM you, but they don’t work and you won’t email me ZEB. I just gotta believe you’re better than this.

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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Ephesians 4:29 ESV[quote]Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.[/quote]Colossians 3:17 ESV[quote]And whatever you do, in word or deed, do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.[/quote]I would PM you, but they don’t work and you won’t email me ZEB. I just gotta believe you’re better than this.[/quote]

When in Rome Tirib. Testy enjoys attacking people on the Internet, it’s what he does. That he chooses to attack me means that he enjoys getting it back in return. Therefore, I am giving him exactly what he wants. Now isn’t that Christian love?

If you want to discuss this further PM me.

LOL

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[quote]Testy1 wrote:
Blah,blah,blah more tough guy talk. I seriously doubt you have ever spoken to anybody’s face like that. Funny, that I am tolerated here but it is you that has retreated to the basement of T-Nation because your bullshit has been called out everywhere else.
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Responding to ZEB is a waste of time. Everyone figures that out eventually. Quit now. He’s a sad, sad figure and a blight on this forum for rational thought. He can’t argue with reason so he attacks. It’s like a defense mechanism for the ignorant.

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[quote]H factor wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:
Blah,blah,blah more tough guy talk. I seriously doubt you have ever spoken to anybody’s face like that. Funny, that I am tolerated here but it is you that has retreated to the basement of T-Nation because your bullshit has been called out everywhere else.
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Responding to ZEB is a waste of time. Everyone figures that out eventually. Quit now. He’s a sad, sad figure and a blight on this forum for rational thought. He can’t argue with reason so he attacks. It’s like a defense mechanism for the ignorant. [/quote]

“Everyone”? LOL… you are trying really hard huh? You poor little thing…

H, the fact is since you’ve decided to hang around PWI I’ve been reading some of your posts and laughing at you. Just as Push and the others try to show you the error of your ways you seem to vanish from the threads, and sometimes there’s that threat “Wha boo hoo I’m leaving PWI you guys are mean”. That little girl act is wearing mighty thin around here H. But I must say you do have it down nicely.

Talk to you soon, bye for now Skippy.