Why Obama Won

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:
Zeb I really have to give you credit. You’re a consistent hypocrite. You’re not only a hypocrite by apologizing for everything Bush did while he was in office and then criticizing Obama for doing similar things.[/quote]

Stop right there creepy stalker person. I told you that I disagreed with two specific things that Bush did. So when you say “everything that Bush did” you are quite wrong. If you are going to be a stalker be a good one and go back and read ALL of my posts about Bush, don’t cherry pick Sparky. You will find me in stark disagreement with other conservatives on this board on two specific acts that Bush did as President. Find them or shut up about me defending Bush in everything that he did.

Nor have gays been responsible for near as much help feeding the hungry, sheltering the homeless and a long, long list of other charitable deeds for hundreds of years. But you hold tightly to that religious bigotry role that you play so well. Cling to it creepy stalker person…And don’t let any light in.

Bigotry is apparently good (according to you) when it is against religious people especially Christians. You’re a hateful and very weird person. As for me I pointed out that a lifestyle that causes pain, sickness and death should not be glamorized by the media. That’s where my opinion ends on gays. Don’t like it? LOL I won’t lose any sleep over it punk.

You follow me around this site like a puppy after his master. You have the makings of another Mark David Chapman (google him). Thank God for anonymity or you would show up at my door step. I really wonder what sort of background creepy people like you have.

Posting even 100,000 times isn’t necessarily stalking anyone, but I wouldn’t expect that you would realize this. As I told you it’s called entertainment. Those posts have accumulated over a 10 year period. If you keep posting at the rate you are going and stay on for ten years you will have me beat. But I would appreciate it if all of those posts were not to me.

I know who you are and I’m woefully unimpressed I’ve seen it in some other young brainless males who inhabit this place. You are no different. You offer nothing special. You have no insights that need to be posted and reposted. You are just a piss poor product of whomever raised you. No conscience, no morals and a very creepy stalker mentality. My gosh what went wrong with you? Now run along you have many more of my past posts to read and comment on. You sick little bastard.
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I know you like to say it Zeb, but I didn’t go back and read everyone of your posts. The ones I found in ten minutes of googling national debt george bush were all either defending or complimentary. You even said not to criticize the commander in chief which is something you’ve done with Obama over and over again. I already proved your hypocrisy in the other thread, do we REALLY need to do it again? You have one or two things you criticized the President on? Really? How many posts would you say you had defending him and how many being critical. I saw 0 critical ones just like 0 mentions of the national debt which is apparently a HUGE deal to you now. I’ll take your word for it, but I really don’t give a shit. You’re posting history is apparent. Left wing this, liberals that, cheer up the right side all night long. Everyone knows that.

You’re right, some Christians feed the homeless and do all sorts of other good things. You’ll never see me denying that. Net societal cost of religion? Hundreds of millions of people killed in religious wars, millions of people swindled out of money, hatred towards people who are different, etc. Give me gays over religion any day.

Follow you around like a puppy? I have like what under 200 posts spread out over ten years. You’re IN EVERY thread. It is literally impossible to post on this area of the forum and not run into you. Don’t fucking flatter yourself old man, you’re not important enough to be followed. It’s just your BS has a tendency to set my radar off. I’ll TRY and be better Zeb, but when you post such obvious hypocritical stuff it’s very very hard not to call you out on it. And for the record you’ve NEVER stopped replying to me, but I did in the national debt thread to you (granted it was after making you look like a fool with your own posts, but whatever).

I love how you call me a hateful and weird person. You want to compare the number of hateful posts I have to you? You’re a prick to pretty much everyone on this site from what I’ve seen. Especially if you think they defend gays, are liberal, like Obama, anything else that gets your tighty whities in a bunch. It’s hard to find many of your posts that aren’t filled with personal attacks that I’ve seen. You “win” most of your battles through attrition apparently. You never shut up, never accurately attack another viewpoint, and just say stuff like creepy stalker person over and over. The hallmark of someone who’s lacking in argument is deflecting or personal attacks and your posts have that in spades. Piss poor product of someone who raised me? Yeah go after my parents or something. Pretty classy, these young punks just don’t get it huh?

I’ll spend less time posting in threads making you look like a fool if you try not to be such an awful logical thinker and blatant hypocrite over again. Can we come to that compromise? Now I’m like that other guy. Extremely sad Romney lost so we could watch you apologize for all the shit he did that was the exact same as the President.

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[quote]BrianHanson wrote:
Did you know that the fastest growing rates of HIV infections are actually among those elderly heterosexual

Romney voters?

I actually looked this up, I figured since Romney won the old people vote he would also get the honor of

winning the group of voters with the fastest growing rate of HIV infection.

I guess when we talk about personal responsibility we forget that bad decisions are an epidemic. Especially

with Old Straight Romney voters.

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I am 85% convinced you are OFA at this point.

Bottom of the barrel OFA, but OFA just the same. You can’t even copy paste without adding weird spaces and odd references in posts.

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OFA?

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[quote]aussie486 wrote:

OFA?

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

How do you justify making a risky investment if the return is now taxed an additional 5%?
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A lack of critical thinking. He forgets 401k’s, 529’s and pension plans that are invested in the same market he wants to rip an addional 5% out of.

We just recently got back to where we were 5 years ago in the markets. (Unless you were in Gold, lol) This means my retirement lost 5 years of growth, my daughters college fund lost that time as well.

I’ve had to do and re-do budgets for fixed income retired people over and over, because they lost 5 years of growth.

Now in this time you’ve seen QE1, 2 & 3, without massive increases in inflation… This should alarm you as to the state we are actually in.

But no, it doesn’t, because people can’t see the big picture. They see Romney’s tax returns, have no idea what % they actually pay in tax only a bracket, and foam at the mouth about “fair”.

The only true “fairness” is liberty. Liberty isn’t forcing others to do something you aren’t willing to do yourself, because of the consequences.[/quote]

Fairness. Haha. Fair like historically? Conservatives, always talk about wanting to go back to how things used to be, well why don’t we go back to what conservatives used to think were fair taxes say 40-50 years ago? Well, why don’t you just take a look?

http://www.stanford.edu/class/polisci120a/immigration/Federal%20Tax%20Brackets.pdf

These guys want to talk about fairness out of one side of their mouth, then talk about going back to the way things, “used to be.” This isn’t ‘America.’ They talk about gifts and shit too…

Look at those tax rates in the context of history and tell me who has been getting gifts… It’s been the wealthy, they just got so used to having lower taxes and loopholes that they have had a disconnect from reality and basic history. 1950 Romney would have been paying 84% on his income taxes under Eisenhower… But, for some reason everything is cool when Romney pays 14.1 under Obama, and they are going to play fuck fuck games with the economy while we face a ‘fiscal cliff’ as if they are some kind of Drill Instructors with new recruits. Just the best time to be fucking around with the economy, right after the people voted. Obama gets to enjoy zero of the stock market benefits for being elected, as the market usually bumps up healthily post elections, but instead of getting a jumpstart on recovering, lets just keep driving for the cliff and waste more time because they want their free shit.

Just a bunch of disconnected greedy, angry rich folks. They pay a little more in taxes, it’s not like they aren’t going to be wealthy anymore… And now, the dramatics of seceding. Kind of reminds me of watching my grandfather who had Alzheimer’s throw a fit like he was 4 years old when someone tried to feed him broccoli, except conservatives have no excuse.

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[quote]Severiano wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

How do you justify making a risky investment if the return is now taxed an additional 5%?
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A lack of critical thinking. He forgets 401k’s, 529’s and pension plans that are invested in the same market he wants to rip an addional 5% out of.

We just recently got back to where we were 5 years ago in the markets. (Unless you were in Gold, lol) This means my retirement lost 5 years of growth, my daughters college fund lost that time as well.

I’ve had to do and re-do budgets for fixed income retired people over and over, because they lost 5 years of growth.

Now in this time you’ve seen QE1, 2 & 3, without massive increases in inflation… This should alarm you as to the state we are actually in.

But no, it doesn’t, because people can’t see the big picture. They see Romney’s tax returns, have no idea what % they actually pay in tax only a bracket, and foam at the mouth about “fair”.

The only true “fairness” is liberty. Liberty isn’t forcing others to do something you aren’t willing to do yourself, because of the consequences.[/quote]

Fairness. Haha. Fair like historically? Conservatives, always talk about wanting to go back to how things used to be, well why don’t we go back to what conservatives used to think were fair taxes say 40-50 years ago? Well, why don’t you just take a look?

http://www.stanford.edu/class/polisci120a/immigration/Federal%20Tax%20Brackets.pdf

These guys want to talk about fairness out of one side of their mouth, then talk about going back to the way things, “used to be.” This isn’t ‘America.’ They talk about gifts and shit too…

Look at those tax rates in the context of history and tell me who has been getting gifts… It’s been the wealthy, they just got so used to having lower taxes and loopholes that they have had a disconnect from reality and basic history. 1950 Romney would have been paying 84% on his income taxes under Eisenhower… But, for some reason everything is cool when Romney pays 14.1 under Obama, and they are going to play fuck fuck games with the economy while we face a ‘fiscal cliff’ as if they are some kind of Drill Instructors with new recruits. Just the best time to be fucking around with the economy, right after the people voted. Obama gets to enjoy zero of the stock market benefits for being elected, as the market usually bumps up healthily post elections, but instead of getting a jumpstart on recovering, lets just keep driving for the cliff and waste more time because they want their free shit.

Just a bunch of disconnected greedy, angry rich folks. They pay a little more in taxes, it’s not like they aren’t going to be wealthy anymore… And now, the dramatics of seceding. Kind of reminds me of watching my grandfather who had Alzheimer’s throw a fit like he was 4 years old when someone tried to feed him broccoli, except conservatives have no excuse. [/quote]

You need to read more. You’re argument here sucks.

Not only do you not understand what a marginal tax rate is, without talking about the changes that came about in the tax code in 1986 you’re comparing apples and oranges.

While you are pulling out your hair looking for you next “ah ha” moment of “I hate conservatives” clarity find a .pdf of effective tax rates. A Conversation about brackets is pointless.

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[quote]Severiano wrote:
Just the best time to be fucking around with the economy, right after the people voted. Obama gets to enjoy zero of the stock market benefits for being elected, as the market usually bumps up healthily post elections, but instead of getting a jumpstart on recovering, lets just keep driving for the cliff and waste more time because they want their free shit.

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Hold on a second… You think it is the side that lost that is depressing the stock market right now?

No, not even close. Obama isn’t enjoying a “bump” because he won. Elections have consequences.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Severiano wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

How do you justify making a risky investment if the return is now taxed an additional 5%?
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A lack of critical thinking. He forgets 401k’s, 529’s and pension plans that are invested in the same market he wants to rip an addional 5% out of.

We just recently got back to where we were 5 years ago in the markets. (Unless you were in Gold, lol) This means my retirement lost 5 years of growth, my daughters college fund lost that time as well.

I’ve had to do and re-do budgets for fixed income retired people over and over, because they lost 5 years of growth.

Now in this time you’ve seen QE1, 2 & 3, without massive increases in inflation… This should alarm you as to the state we are actually in.

But no, it doesn’t, because people can’t see the big picture. They see Romney’s tax returns, have no idea what % they actually pay in tax only a bracket, and foam at the mouth about “fair”.

The only true “fairness” is liberty. Liberty isn’t forcing others to do something you aren’t willing to do yourself, because of the consequences.[/quote]

Fairness. Haha. Fair like historically? Conservatives, always talk about wanting to go back to how things used to be, well why don’t we go back to what conservatives used to think were fair taxes say 40-50 years ago? Well, why don’t you just take a look?

http://www.stanford.edu/class/polisci120a/immigration/Federal%20Tax%20Brackets.pdf

These guys want to talk about fairness out of one side of their mouth, then talk about going back to the way things, “used to be.” This isn’t ‘America.’ They talk about gifts and shit too…

Look at those tax rates in the context of history and tell me who has been getting gifts… It’s been the wealthy, they just got so used to having lower taxes and loopholes that they have had a disconnect from reality and basic history. 1950 Romney would have been paying 84% on his income taxes under Eisenhower… But, for some reason everything is cool when Romney pays 14.1 under Obama, and they are going to play fuck fuck games with the economy while we face a ‘fiscal cliff’ as if they are some kind of Drill Instructors with new recruits. Just the best time to be fucking around with the economy, right after the people voted. Obama gets to enjoy zero of the stock market benefits for being elected, as the market usually bumps up healthily post elections, but instead of getting a jumpstart on recovering, lets just keep driving for the cliff and waste more time because they want their free shit.

Just a bunch of disconnected greedy, angry rich folks. They pay a little more in taxes, it’s not like they aren’t going to be wealthy anymore… And now, the dramatics of seceding. Kind of reminds me of watching my grandfather who had Alzheimer’s throw a fit like he was 4 years old when someone tried to feed him broccoli, except conservatives have no excuse. [/quote]

You need to read more. You’re argument here sucks.

Not only do you not understand what a marginal tax rate is, without talking about the changes that came about in the tax code in 1986 you’re comparing apples and oranges.

While you are pulling out your hair looking for you next “ah ha” moment of “I hate conservatives” clarity find a .pdf of effective tax rates. A Conversation about brackets is pointless. [/quote]

That’s the problem with conservatives, no matter how educated I may be, you say I don’t understand it unless I agree with you. :slight_smile: Sorry just calling it like I see it.

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And yet another post from my very own creepy little stalker person “H factor”.

[quote]H factor wrote:

I know you like to say it Zeb, but I didn’t go back and read everyone of your posts.[/quote]

But, you’ve told me on other threads that you followed me to that you know that I have defended GW Bush on EVERYTHING that he did. And at that time you told me that you read all my posts regarding that topic. That’s pretty creepy junior. Spending hour after hour reading my old posts is just not normal.

In your distorted little mind you may have proven lots of things. However, other than that you’ve done nothing but show yourself to be an odd little man who is truly lost and looking for an identity. I suggest you steal somone else’s.

Far more defending I thought Bush did some really good things as President. And he is far and away better than the socialist and chief that we now have. Do some reading on Benghazi and the horrible economy when you are done stalking me. I know you think you know everything but trust me skippy there is far more to life than following someone around on a message board and ruining entire threads while doing so. By the way there is a chance that others are getting tired of you interrupting threads just because I happen to be part of it.

Oh but you do give a shit, you care a great deal. You spend countless hours tracking my posts, reading them, following me around T Nation. You have a real problem and I’m not at all kidding when I say that.

Well…you should know about my posting history you’ve read them all. How long does it take someone to read that many posts? My gosh do you not have any life at all beyond this board?

Hey wait a minute something just hit me…

…you mean it’s not a secret that I’m a conservative republican? DAMN! How do you think that everyone found out? YOU it must have been YOU. You’ve read all of my conservative leaning posts and told people. LMAO WOW!

Actually if you spent more time reading history and less time reading my old posts you would know that there were far and away more people killed in wars begun by non-Christians. Really stop stalking me and spend some time reading history you might like it.

Yes, like every time that we’ve ever communicated. Right now for example, where are you? You are on a thread started by me. Who initiated contact between us? You did. Who initiated contact on every other occasion, you did! You have a fascination with me and I know why, you are a creepy little stalker person.

I had this happen to me only one other time in here about 6 or 7 years ago. They ended up throwing the guy off the site. He was very much like you. He read all of my previous posts and would follow me around and try to instigate debate. When I shut him down as I do you repeatedly he would only follow me to another thread and begin again…just like you are doing. You absolutely have a problem what it is I have no idea. Could be issues from your childhood I don’t know but I suggest you get help while you’re still young. A little help right now would do you a lot of good down the road. These things do not go away on their own.

Yet, many people manage to do it. On the other hand you seek me out and attempt to engage me in your twisted little game. And I know why you do it - YOU ARE A STALKER. Why you stalk is something that you and your Psychologist have to spend some time working through.

Then why do you repeatedly do it day after day?

Is there a voice telling you to do it? What prompts you to constantly seek me out? Do you like hearing from me that you have a problem? Is this your way of seeking help? Trust me kid I am not qualified to help you with this problem of yours. All your doing is feeding your problem by constantly following me around give it up…go away.

Well good for you now that is a positive affirmation that is worth keeping. Don’t listen to those voices that tell you to follow people around and harass them. If you do that in your real life you’l be spending time in the slammer. And you know what that’s like. You DO NOT want to go back there!

I never did post any “hypocritical stuff” junior. I don’t like Obama’s policies so I post about them. I liked most of Bush’s policies (all but two found them yet?) so I posted about them as well. Shhh don’t tell anyone but I’m a conservative republican and I tend to back republicans. That doesn’t make me hypocritical, in fact it makes me very consistent. Then again there could be an outstanding chance that you don’t know what the word hypocritical means. Hmmm…

I have to admit that I do feed the trolls now and again. And you might just be the biggest troll we’ve had here in a few years. Stalkers like you can be trolls, but trolls are not necessarily stalkers. We have a two for one with you junior!

Welp…you’ve followed me around checked back into my T Nation posting history, quoted old threads to me. And right now you are hijacking a thread that I began to talk about why Obama won so that you can further attack me. I’d say you are a very weird little stalker person. And I bet at this point many others are thinking the same thing. We’ve seen them before on T Nation and you fit the description to the letter!

Well you should know you’ve said that you read all of my previous posts from 10 years. Now come on man you have to admit that you are odd. After you read my posts you follow me around and remind me of what I’ve written. If that is not stalking I don’t know what is.

“Battles”? Is that how your undeveloped mind sees this? Are you engaging in a battle with me right now? Right here on the Internet we are having a “battle”? (eye roll).

I have no recourse than to question why someone would go to the bother of reading my many past posts, follow me around interrupting threads and then question me on them. Something is not quite put together correctly in your brain. Yes, I had put part of the blame on whoever raised you. But then again you could have gotten involved with drugs, or fallen off your bicycle and hit your head. Hey…it could be a number of things that causes you to act like a creepy little stalker person. All I can say for sure is whatever happened to you the end result is not good. And I suggest for the third time that you speak to someone about your problem as these things can get worse as you get older.

There are plenty of interesting things here on T Nation, it’s a great site. Far more interesting things than stalking me relentlessly. Up to now I think I’ve been a pretty good sport, I’ve responded and tried (some of the time) to treat you like a normal person. Other times I’ve poked fun at you which I probably should not have done as you most definitely have a problem. But everyone has their limits and I’m just about finished with you. Yes, you were fun for a while and even now as I write this I am chuckling a bit. But over all I find your behavior really weird and I (and others I bet too) don’t like the fact that whichever thread you stalk me it takes the thread off course. You see boy that is rude and disrespects the other posters.

So, here’s the deal creepy little stalker person. I will post what I want when I want just as I’ve done here on T Nation for close to 10 years. And if you continue to follow me around as you have been doing I will alert the mods and have you removed from the site. Now run along skippy…there’s a big world out there with other people to stalk…go on…beat it!

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Zeb: You’re delusional. I told you I googled search George Bush and national debt with your name in a site search. Browsed quickly to see if you had often complained about it under him. You hadn’t. I pointed this out in a thread. This took me ten minutes. I haven’t read your countless posts and I don’t “follow” you around. You have no arguments to make to counter what I say when I call you a hypocrite and point out why you are one. It’s shown logically. This bothers you, so you say stuff like creepy stalker person, countless hours reading my posts, and other stuff that isn’t true.

It’s the HALLMARK of someone who doesn’t have an argument. And you haven’t had an argument Zeb. When I point out your hypocrisy through your own posts you turn it into creepy stalker man. This is because you look bad and to save face you attack me. I’ll admit I shouldn’t respond to such juvenile tactics you use, and I’ll try not to. You’re really not worth it. All you have is personal attacks and lies like spending countless hours looking through things. How many posts have I had in the last 10 days? Maybe something like 40? Most of them have not been in response to you except when you say untrue things about me and my character.

And now you want to tell the mods I’m stalking you or something. Everyone can see I haven’t been, everyone can see you’re delusional. You make yourself look bad with hypocritical posts. I’m sorry I’ve called you out on this, it’s just I believe inconsistency needs to be called out. I wish you could argue without having to resort to the attacks and lies that come out, but you clearly can’t. You might be an older man, but you’re definitely a little kid in many aspects. If that makes you report the mods because your life is built around posting and you can’t stand the embarrassment I give what you believe then report it. I haven’t done anything wrong. The only thing I’ve done is make you look wrong through your own posts or inconsistency. You haven’t had rebuttals so you resort to the tactics of people who are clearly losing a debate. Attacks and lies.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:
And yet another post from my very own creepy little stalker person “H factor”.

[quote]H factor wrote:

I know you like to say it Zeb, but I didn’t go back and read everyone of your posts.[/quote]

But, you’ve told me on other threads that you followed me to that you know that I have defended GW Bush on EVERYTHING that he did. And at that time you told me that you read all my posts regarding that topic. That’s pretty creepy junior. Spending hour after hour reading my old posts is just not normal.

In your distorted little mind you may have proven lots of things. However, other than that you’ve done nothing but show yourself to be an odd little man who is truly lost and looking for an identity. I suggest you steal somone else’s.

Far more defending I thought Bush did some really good things as President. And he is far and away better than the socialist and chief that we now have. Do some reading on Benghazi and the horrible economy when you are done stalking me. I know you think you know everything but trust me skippy there is far more to life than following someone around on a message board and ruining entire threads while doing so. By the way there is a chance that others are getting tired of you interrupting threads just because I happen to be part of it.

Oh but you do give a shit, you care a great deal. You spend countless hours tracking my posts, reading them, following me around T Nation. You have a real problem and I’m not at all kidding when I say that.

Well…you should know about my posting history you’ve read them all. How long does it take someone to read that many posts? My gosh do you not have any life at all beyond this board?

Hey wait a minute something just hit me…

…you mean it’s not a secret that I’m a conservative republican? DAMN! How do you think that everyone found out? YOU it must have been YOU. You’ve read all of my conservative leaning posts and told people. LMAO WOW!

Actually if you spent more time reading history and less time reading my old posts you would know that there were far and away more people killed in wars begun by non-Christians. Really stop stalking me and spend some time reading history you might like it.

Yes, like every time that we’ve ever communicated. Right now for example, where are you? You are on a thread started by me. Who initiated contact between us? You did. Who initiated contact on every other occasion, you did! You have a fascination with me and I know why, you are a creepy little stalker person.

I had this happen to me only one other time in here about 6 or 7 years ago. They ended up throwing the guy off the site. He was very much like you. He read all of my previous posts and would follow me around and try to instigate debate. When I shut him down as I do you repeatedly he would only follow me to another thread and begin again…just like you are doing. You absolutely have a problem what it is I have no idea. Could be issues from your childhood I don’t know but I suggest you get help while you’re still young. A little help right now would do you a lot of good down the road. These things do not go away on their own.

Yet, many people manage to do it. On the other hand you seek me out and attempt to engage me in your twisted little game. And I know why you do it - YOU ARE A STALKER. Why you stalk is something that you and your Psychologist have to spend some time working through.

Then why do you repeatedly do it day after day?

Is there a voice telling you to do it? What prompts you to constantly seek me out? Do you like hearing from me that you have a problem? Is this your way of seeking help? Trust me kid I am not qualified to help you with this problem of yours. All your doing is feeding your problem by constantly following me around give it up…go away.

Well good for you now that is a positive affirmation that is worth keeping. Don’t listen to those voices that tell you to follow people around and harass them. If you do that in your real life you’l be spending time in the slammer. And you know what that’s like. You DO NOT want to go back there!

I never did post any “hypocritical stuff” junior. I don’t like Obama’s policies so I post about them. I liked most of Bush’s policies (all but two found them yet?) so I posted about them as well. Shhh don’t tell anyone but I’m a conservative republican and I tend to back republicans. That doesn’t make me hypocritical, in fact it makes me very consistent. Then again there could be an outstanding chance that you don’t know what the word hypocritical means. Hmmm…

I have to admit that I do feed the trolls now and again. And you might just be the biggest troll we’ve had here in a few years. Stalkers like you can be trolls, but trolls are not necessarily stalkers. We have a two for one with you junior!

Welp…you’ve followed me around checked back into my T Nation posting history, quoted old threads to me. And right now you are hijacking a thread that I began to talk about why Obama won so that you can further attack me. I’d say you are a very weird little stalker person. And I bet at this point many others are thinking the same thing. We’ve seen them before on T Nation and you fit the description to the letter!

Well you should know you’ve said that you read all of my previous posts from 10 years. Now come on man you have to admit that you are odd. After you read my posts you follow me around and remind me of what I’ve written. If that is not stalking I don’t know what is.

“Battles”? Is that how your undeveloped mind sees this? Are you engaging in a battle with me right now? Right here on the Internet we are having a “battle”? (eye roll).

I have no recourse than to question why someone would go to the bother of reading my many past posts, follow me around interrupting threads and then question me on them. Something is not quite put together correctly in your brain. Yes, I had put part of the blame on whoever raised you. But then again you could have gotten involved with drugs, or fallen off your bicycle and hit your head. Hey…it could be a number of things that causes you to act like a creepy little stalker person. All I can say for sure is whatever happened to you the end result is not good. And I suggest for the third time that you speak to someone about your problem as these things can get worse as you get older.

There are plenty of interesting things here on T Nation, it’s a great site. Far more interesting things than stalking me relentlessly. Up to now I think I’ve been a pretty good sport, I’ve responded and tried (some of the time) to treat you like a normal person. Other times I’ve poked fun at you which I probably should not have done as you most definitely have a problem. But everyone has their limits and I’m just about finished with you. Yes, you were fun for a while and even now as I write this I am chuckling a bit. But over all I find your behavior really weird and I (and others I bet too) don’t like the fact that whichever thread you stalk me it takes the thread off course. You see boy that is rude and disrespects the other posters.

So, here’s the deal creepy little stalker person. I will post what I want when I want just as I’ve done here on T Nation for close to 10 years. And if you continue to follow me around as you have been doing I will alert the mods and have you removed from the site. Now run along skippy…there’s a big world out there with other people to stalk…go on…beat it!
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Wow, I always have thought you were odd but you really should have the doctor check your meds.

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[quote]Testy1 wrote:

Wow, I always have thought you were odd but you really should have the doctor check your meds.[/quote]

Strange thing is if anything he’s stalking ME. He posts in reply to me all the time and accuses me of stalking him. All I did was google site search to see if he cared about the national debt under GWB (he didn’t). His own words were embarrassing to him so he has been accusing me of stalking him ever since. I quit talking to him in one thread and he tried to move the fight here. Apparently he has a history of this, I wouldn’t know I have only been checking this board for a few days now. It’s whatever.

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You’re back…why am I not surprised?

[quote]H factor wrote:
Zeb: You’re delusional. I told you I googled search George Bush and national debt with your name in a site search. Browsed quickly to see if you had often complained about it under him. You hadn’t. I pointed this out in a thread. This took me ten minutes. I haven’t read your countless posts and I don’t “follow” you around.[/quote]

We can all believe what you are telling us, or we can look at how you turned this (and other)threads into your personal platform to stalk me. YOU are the one who originally claimed that you read all my posts. YOU are the one who follows me around like a lost puppy. YOU are the one who became an expert on exactly what I’d said in my posting history. But now you want to back off of what you said because you’ve been exposed…as a creepy little stalker person.

I don’t have to point out anything you are doing it right now. You are engaging me in a conversation by following me around from thread to thread on unrelated topics. You are not only a stalker but a troll as well.

Good point, I have no argument with you other than I’d like you to stop stalking me. I don’t care who you voted for, I don’t care to hear about your failing grades in High School, I don’t care to hear about your mother abusing you. I don’t care to hear any of your opinions. What I would like you to do is stop stalking me. Is that pretty clear?

That’s three times that you said that I wasn’t worth it and three more times that you followed me to other threads. And for what? To tell me that I am not worth it? You are a really creepy dude why don’t you go away? Isn’t there someone else you can bother outside of T Nation members?

Huh? I’m not the one who looked through someone else’s previous posts and reached idiotic conclusions that make sense only to you. That would be you, you’re a sick little man.

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I wish you could argue without having to resort to the attacks and lies that come out, but you clearly can’t. [/quote]

Psst…I don’t want to “argue” with you. You are a creepy little stalker person. All I want you to do is to get off of my thread. And in the future stop following me around to other threads. What part about that don’t you understand? I don’t respect your opinion I don’t want to know what you think about A N Y T H I N G! How can I say it any clearer?

I’ve had many debates on T Nation. And since you went through my entire posting history you know that. But as I’ve told you only once before have I had a piss ant like yourself stalk me from thread to thread (eventually the mods did the proper thing and they will in this instance as well). Keep in mind that this is NOT embarrassing to me, as I am the victim. However, it is quite embarrassing for you as you are the creepy little stalker person who continues to follow me around and ruin threads. You’re sort of like ants at a picnic not all that important but certainly capable of ruining the day for those around you.

You’re doing something wrong right now. Take a deep breath kid and look up at the title of this thread. Does it say “H factor’s Stalking” thread? Noooo indeed it does not. It says “Why Obama Won” and it was begun by me to debate why Obama won. You have now dumped how many posts into my thread that have NOTHING to do with the topic at hand? And you do this why? And why do you follow me around this site launching personal attacks that have nothing to do with any of the topics that I’ve posted on? And you wonder why people are starting to look at you as a creepy little stalker person? Do you honestly think when you are done with this that anyone will take you seriously?

I have not looked through any of my posts, nor have I ever said such a thing. You are the one who has looked through my many posts at least that’s what you’ve told me numerous times.
You now have us confused which is one more trait of someone sufering from some sort of mental derangement.

You stalker types ramble on and on but in the end the same conclusion is always reached. YOU’RE FREAKING NUTS!

Here is another person who was “confused”

Investigator: “Why did you follow John Lennon around?”

Mark David Chapman: “I hated him…but then I liked him. Then I confused the two of us and became him.”

Investigator: “Why did you kill him?”

Mark David Chapman: “If he were around then I couldn’t be him. There can only be one John Lennon.”

See what you have to look forward to once you’ve graduated from Internet stalker to real life stalker? Your future doesn’t look good get off the Internet and get some help!

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Her Severiano,

California has the highest tax rates, in almost every category, how is that workin’ out for us ?

We generate almost 2 Trillion dollars, yet STILL have a massive deficit, still think taxing the rich will help ?

In California, the top 15% generate 80% of the tax revenue, think that will keep us afloat ?

Guess who announced their expansion IN OREGON…Intel.

The company founded here, is now moving, NBC also announced 500 layoffs, and Boeing is reducing their workforce by 30% (which is HUGE) in Huntington Beach.

You have to learn something, we (America) used to do shit that no one else could do. We could build, innovate, create, stuff that no one else could do.

Now, countries have caught up, and we no longer have hand hold on those capabilities. China can build shit for pennies, that is why things like the “Green Economy” have failed.

Get ready to lose your ass dude, I don’t know where in Cali you are, but here in Los Angeles, we have 4 more tax increases on the ballot, after Brown passed Prop 30. Bend over bro.

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[quote]H factor wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

Wow, I always have thought you were odd but you really should have the doctor check your meds.[/quote]

Strange thing is if anything he’s stalking ME. He posts in reply to me all the time and accuses me of stalking him. All I did was google site search to see if he cared about the national debt under GWB (he didn’t). His own words were embarrassing to him so he has been accusing me of stalking him ever since. I quit talking to him in one thread and he tried to move the fight here. Apparently he has a history of this, I wouldn’t know I have only been checking this board for a few days now. It’s whatever. [/quote]

Well there’s one more lie. Fortunately, this one is easier to trace than your many others. All anyone has to do is flip back a page or two and they can clearly see that you stalked me to this thread (as you have the others). And you engaged me in conversation first (as you did ALL of the others) and my response (among other things) then is what it is now…go away.

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Her Severiano,

California has the highest tax rates, in almost every category, how is that workin’ out for us ?

We generate almost 2 Trillion dollars, yet STILL have a massive deficit, still think taxing the rich will help ?

In California, the top 15% generate 80% of the tax revenue, think that will keep us afloat ?

Guess who announced their expansion IN OREGON…Intel.

The company founded here, is now moving, NBC also announced 500 layoffs, and Boeing is reducing their workforce by 30% (which is HUGE) in Huntington Beach.

You have to learn something, we (America) used to do shit that no one else could do. We could build, innovate, create, stuff that no one else could do.

Now, countries have caught up, and we no longer have hand hold on those capabilities. China can build shit for pennies, that is why things like the “Green Economy” have failed.

Get ready to lose your ass dude, I don’t know where in Cali you are, but here in Los Angeles, we have 4 more tax increases on the ballot, after Brown passed Prop 30. Bend over bro. [/quote]

I don’t know what part of California that you’re from but if it were me I’d be tempted to slide into a neighboring state like Arizona or Nevada. Of course you probably have family where you live it’s not always easy to make the big move even if you’re being over taxed.

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Zeb: I thought you would have this figured out by now, but on a message board when someone posts something other people reply to it and a conversation follows. You’re painting my replies as stalking, they aren’t. I replied to what you posted in this thread and to what you posted in another thread. You should understand this process you have done it close to 19,000 times. In fact you do it in long multi-part replies all over this forum which makes me wonder how much of a life you have.

I think Testy has it right, check your meds. And leave ME alone, you’re the one who has always called me out and continued to reply. You never walk away you have to come out with your creepy stalker person crap because you’ve absolutely lost your mind apparently.