So you think people are prejudice simply because of one’s skin color aka “immutable” characteristic? Interesting. I doubt that very much as I think it’s the perceived culture associated with that immutable characteristic. If I saw a purple person I would stare but not necessarily treat them different simply because they were purple.
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You’re right. Black Americans are the wealthiest group of all blacks if you’re speaking of this minority in particular. Compare them to their African counterparts.
Why is it Asian, Indian and middle eastern ethnicity don’t seem to be in a similar case or is it because their skin simply isn’t as black?
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So what do you think will make them know? I for one know racism is real and it exists. Technically I’m in a mixed race marriage considering my wife is white and I’m Jewish, a racial hybrid. It didn’t take my marriage to be aware that racism and ethnocentrism exists. I think I figured that out at like, seven years old, simply from stepping out of my door and observing the world around me.
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Everyone knows, but not everyone cares.
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I try not to look at things like this through the lens of Christianity because a significant (majority?) of America is secular and I have no idea what percentage of conservatives are actually Christians.
What are you basing this on? I would be shocked if most white people don’t think racism is evil.
As they should. That’s overt racism. But again, those individuals did that and those individuals should have been punished for it, which it sounds like they were.
I can’t really speak for the UK, but I can’t think of an example of a time when I was in the Corps where I witnessed a white marine being racist towards a black marine or sailor. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, but I didn’t see it. Partly because the Marine Corps is very diverse. I don’t think I was ever in a shop where white people were the majority or it was very close.
Maybe it’s the company I keep, but I don’t know anyone that thinks like this.
Idk, maybe, but that’s a whole separate discussion.
I think a lot of people wanted the polar opposite of Obama the same way a lot of people wanted the polar opposite of Bush. Trump is a salesmen after all. He knows how to sell his brand and people bought it. People are still buying it. One could argue conservatives now control SCOTUS and recent wins on abortion because of Trump.
That’s great, but aren’t people in Africa calling for the death of white South Africans right now?
I can’t speak for Europe.
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What should Conservatives do? Put up “I stand against Racism” signs in their yards? “Conservatism” is usually associated with politics, and there is no conservative, political solution to racism.
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To your face.
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Beats me.
I have some questions for Grool, although I’m open to others comments:
What definition of racism are we going by? Is it 1) actual racially-motivated mistreatment, 2) viewing race as a biological construct (racial/physical anthropology), or 3) thinking one’s group is better than others (race, or ethnicity)?
Regarding point 3, I have met a whole lot of people like that, some of my own kind included, and none were “evil”.
Re: running to HR
If I reported every mean racial or ethnocentric statement I heard when working and living in NYC to HR and mommy and daddy, I’d be quite busy.
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Conservatives must accept that, “the only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination. The only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination.” - Dr. Ibram Kendi
We can’t just not be assholes to each. We have to be assholes to each… Idk that’s DEI for you.
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You would not have passed our most recent DEI training my friend.
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I think this is the truth, in the “minds” of all who like to gripe about racism in America. Of course, the fact that is makes it clear they absolutely do not believe racism is wrong; they only disagree with the way it’s implemented.
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The most high profile case anyways, there have been more and on a backdrop of “everything white people do is inherently racist” attitudes of late. One kid speaking for many is exactly what I’m saying. Again, I don’t know of anyone who openly denies racism exists, but the prevalence of racism itself is largely overestimated which is why you see the pushback you’re asking about in your original post.
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Not my problem. I didn’t vote for Jim Crow laws. Build a Time Machine and go punish the people who did.
And this may be why minorities see more racism than there is, especially black people. For some reason they will reference history as a current event. It isn’t.
Nobody will force your girlfriend to pick cotton. She will likely get preferential treatment for university admission, scholarships and career opportunities though. Welcome to 2023. Cut in line and get your come up that you didn’t slave for and the people you cut didn’t put you through.
Oh, and white people voted for this scenario to occur, just fyi. Just like they voted to end Jim Crow and all the historical stuff. Black people didn’t overcome anything, they’ve never held the voting majority or population numbers to do so. The laws, rules and changes were all gifted by very not racist politicians and majority white voters. You’re welcome. Change your paradigm and live today.
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Are you afraid of genocide?
You really think it’s okay to think like that?
Do you have a sister?
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We can also point out the difference between middle class people and rich people. I was middle class, and my life was very different than people born to rich parents in Whitestone, Queens, and Muttontown, Long Island. And yes, this difference can also greatly affect life outcomes. Ya think the rich kids as young as seventeen years old driving cars that our teachers couldn’t afford who I went to high school with were “working their way through school,” buttering bagels and flipping burgers? That’s not to mention the extra social and academic amenities afforded to them by their families. So yes, they have enormous advantages others don’t have, in many cases the intelligence and characteristics that are inherent in their bloodline (IQ and other traits are largely heritable), which is partly why their patents are rich.
What exactly should be done about this upon recognizing this? Eradication of the classes?
It’s because they don’t waste time worrying about what white people think about them.
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I think you cross a line when tell others what is acceptable to think. Something you find acceptable, others may consider abhorrent. Such is life. Actions are different especially in the eyes of the law.