@Grool I reject your entire premise. What, exactly, should American conservatives be doing to fight racism?
With Affirmative Action finally struck down, the US government has only one job left regarding racism, in my opinion. Ensure that no more racism becomes enshrined into law or advanced by government spending. The Democrats will continue to try, as they have for their entire history, but hopefully American conservatives can continue to win the long fight.
Florida Republicans are currently leading the way by making sure tax dollars arenāt spent to teach racist ideologies based on false history as factual and valid ideas.
Racists are incensed by this. They want to teach an anti white false narrative as fact. Knock yourself out if thatās what you want to do, but donāt expect American tax money to fund it.
The Republican Party isnāt perfect, but theyāve been on the right side of race just as consistently as the Democrats have been on the wrong side. This has been true for nearly 200 years.
You canāt and shouldnāt legislate bad or mean words, so suck it up and deal with the racists you encounter on a personal level however you think is appropriate. I find ignoring people like that usually works out well.
The entire country cancelled the dixie chicks for being against the iraq war. They drove bill maher off tv for saying al qaeda suicide bombers were braver than us troops bombing their enemies from miles away. Cancel culture was a conservative thing long before the shitlibs did it.
Hmmm. Disagree but thatās not really the core of your thread. Cancel culture and racism while sometimes overlapping are separate issues. Further, as it should be, your words can affect how people perceive and treat you. But that does not mean they should be legislated
I would suggest rural Dakota is not indicative of a broader population at all. This is like suggesting all black people are violent criminals because the majority of violent crimes are committed by a few black people. Literally the same line of logic.
The millions of white people Iām specifically discussing who are willing to give up personal peace and sacrifice monetarily for acts that occurred in history obviously are not out cutting braids. Unfortunately theyāre trying to pass broadly sweeping laws instead of just giving from personal charity, which I believe will lead to a boomerang effect eventually.
We are seeing minorities today blame their situations on history (if they have not found personal success) and they are demanding wealth redistribution by govt mandate essentially as a lagging reward. The problem is that theyāre taking from people who never participated in their ancestorsā struggles, and statistically extremely likely did not have ancestors involved either. The sad violins are gaining momentum with some bleeding hearts, but eventually people will get tired of paying penance for something they didnāt do, and will begin pushing back as a boomerang effect.
I would imagine this is true for Indians in areas like yours too. āYou took our landā. No I didnāt. I was born in the early 1980ās and I donāt live in a history book. And now thereās tension. I would also bet thereās more to the braids story than meets the eye.
Neither case was a concerted, organized effort though, which is tantamount to ācancel cultureā. People will organically stop watching tv shows or listening to musicians they donāt like.
āI love Garden Ridge, but they donāt support abortion so Iāll forego shopping there and rally supportā is cancel culture. To be fair, so is the Mulvaney Bud Light thing.
Probably, but then again I remember Jussie Smollet and a few other high profile frauds in near history.
As Iāve said earlier, I donāt doubt racism exists at all, but I do doubt itās as prevalent as many minorities seem to believe. Almost like a ghost story at this point. The boogie man will get you! Reality is somewhere in the middle, but youāll absolutely have a hard time convincing me brazen attacks are taking place in todays climate. At least by whites.
First you are grouping conservatives as all one class which in and of itself is prejudice. Whatās the difference between your actual words about āconservativesā versus me saying all Hispanics should stop supporting illegal immigration?
I honestly think Racism is a word that should just go away. People donāt like other people sometimes. The more you force ideals upon said people the worse you make it. Live and let live. Donāt interact with people you donāt like. In your case example from the original postā¦ who lost out the homeless person or your wife? I would say it was the honemlss person letting their bias prevent them from getting help they needed.
In @jshaving case, I believe it to be quite prevalent. You did mention that regionally, it could be, and that S. Dakota isnāt representative of the whole country. That is true.
From what Iāve seen in my travels, if you want to find white racists the place Iād send you is around reservations in the Dakotas.
Well donāt worry it wonāt last long. A true Caucasian person will be a minority in the US based on birth patterns in short order. Letās see what happens when the script is flipped.
In a short time less than half of people will be white, that is true. However, it isnāt that blacks, or Latinos, or Asians will be a bigger group, it is that all of the non-white people will out number whites. White people will be the largest group for some time I suspect. I am not making any value judgement here. I donāt really care if white people are a majority.
lol 1 fraud case, this is exactly the obscufating im talking about. Its like finding one case where a child lied about pedophillia verifiably, to say lots of kids claiming abuse are lying, its disingenuous.
WHAT? It was a nationwide organised cancellation where conservative groups rang up venues demanding them to cancel the apprearance or they would protest and go after advertisers. Bill Maher had his show pulled when it was the highest rated on tv in that slot because organised conservatives targetted adertisers.
Donahue the same thing for being opposed to the Iraq war. Its so laughable you deny what were open cancel culture events. Far more organised than the woke retards can string together today.
Do you think slavery and jim crow donāt affect black Americans today? Either they are genetically inferior, choose to have worse life outcomes or its past discrimination and economic deprivation. To pretend forcefully stopping blacks from building generational wealth for centuries didnāt cause the black plight today is simply lying.
We know this because in the countries who had the same populations of former slaves who ended it and then gave equal rights however imperfect, those societies donāt have the same racial wealth or education gaps.
An example of this is jews in America around ww1. Jews fresh from Poland and other places scored 1 deviation lower than whites on IQ tests and had half the family wealth as whites. After they broke into white society and were allowed to build it they gained 1 standard deviation on the IQ test over whites and more family wealth per household. Those are the same jews who were tested in army IQ tests in the war period and 20 years later.
If those jews were never allowed to live outside a jewish redlined ghetto and they were barred from jobs and higher education and kept poor and segregated they would be in the exact same position today as black people are.
Hell we saw jewish criminal gangs doing the exact same shit in jewish ghettos of new york. To pretend the past does not influence the future is purposeful denial of reality in order to place the blame of oppressed people onto themselves.
Its like saying a white guy born in a trailer park and a Kennedy should both be expected to have similar life outcomes despite the drastically different build up to their birth and their living conditions.
Its not about standing up to racism. Its viewing it as sinful and evil just like pedophilia apologia or some other objective wrong. The fact most white people donāt see racism as truly evil and see it as something its morally neutral to ignore is the issue.
My brother for example is UKSF and a bunch of his NCOs got into trouble for allowing racial bullying like staff hanigng nooses on black recruits beds at night etc. My brother married a non white girl, hes not a racist, but his attitude was meh its just banter.
That is the issue, theres a black rotten core at the heart of many western conservatives around race issues, because fundamentally many are highly biased. They are not racists, they donāt hate black people, but they view them as basically guests in the west who should stop whining. And ultimately its why the conservative movement has no moral standing and why we have lost every battle of the last century, from feminism, sexual revolution, abortion, secularization of culture.
Because young people find the inherent lack of moral fiber on these issues disgusting. Just look at how Trump ran his campaign, it was pure red meat about mexicans and muslims and those scary darkies. Actual conservatives got crushed because lots of people liked what Trump was dangling in front of them.
They arenāt overt KKK types, but they have a racial perspective and they see demands for christian love for blacks and non whites as sinister and threatening. I lived in Africa for years as a pale white man. Not one racial insult. Alone or with my wife. 2 weeks into moving to Europe id had two and so many angry stares it was almost comical.
I think its something most people wouldnāt know unless they were in a mixed marriage or relationship and dealt with it.